On 6/11/05, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Feit wrote:
This is just a case where we need all the input we can get.
We'll see if we can get some additional mentoring for you. I believe that
we'll have another volunteer to also spend time helping beehive along. :-)
I can
Thanks Cliff! Getting feedback from you on these issues would be a nice bonus
for us. I think the main thing is that, along the lines of Noel's comments and
advice, if you see anything the Beehive project can do to better apply ASF
principles, it would be great for us to hear it. This kind
Thanks Cliff! Getting feedback from you on these issues would be a nice
bonus for us. I think the main thing is that, along the lines of Noel's
comments and advice, if you see anything the Beehive project can do to
better apply ASF principles, it would be great for us to hear it. This
kind
Richard Feit wrote:
we need all the guidance we can get in achieving that.
How has it been going? Have you had input from the project Mentor(s)?
Definitely. Craig (McClanahan) has chimed in publicly and privately,
with both solicited and unsolicited advice. He's been great about
On 6/7/05, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It just doesn't make sense to me to tell a community that believes it has
a 1.0 quality product that they have to call it a test snapshot.
Demo? Technology preview? Milestone? Happy Meal?
All of those terms (or at least the first three
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
It just doesn't make sense to me to tell a community that believes it
has
a 1.0 quality product that they have to call it a test snapshot.
Demo? Technology preview? Milestone? Happy Meal?
If we are keeping a project in incubation until its
I've been a bit hung up on the idea that since Derby has done several
official releases from within the Incubator (e.g., Version 10.0.2.1 at
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Official+Releases
), Beehive should be able to do the same thing. I think a lot of us
have been
Richard Feit wrote:
I've been a bit hung up on the idea that since Derby has done several
official releases from within the Incubator (e.g., Version 10.0.2.1 at
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Official+Releases
), Beehive should be able to do the same thing. I think a
Richard Feit wrote:
I've been a bit hung up on the idea that since Derby has done several
official releases from within the Incubator (e.g., Version 10.0.2.1 at
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Official+Releases
I can appreciate that view. I hadn't noticed the use of
On 6/8/05, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, versioning schemes such as:
M.mQB
where M == major, m == minor, Q in [D:Development, A:Alpha, B:Beta,
R:Release], and B == Build# encode the release type. I supposed that 1.0m1
represents a milestone.
In any event, I'm sure
Richard Feit wrote:
it would be very healthy for us to focus solely on exiting
the Incubator. We are totally committed to building a real
dev community around Beehive
Neither of those was in doubt. :-)
we need all the guidance we can get in achieving that.
How has it been going? Have
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Richard Feit wrote:
it would be very healthy for us to focus solely on exiting
the Incubator. We are totally committed to building a real
dev community around Beehive
Neither of those was in doubt. :-)
we need all the guidance we can get in achieving
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
Here is my opinion on the whole release issue, which has not changed
in 18 months since the first big discussion of releases and incubation
branding.
[snip]
Maybe folks are confused by this sentence in the 'Minimum Exit
Requirements' section.
On 6/7/05, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Exit+Requirements
quote
Note: incubator projects are not permitted to issue an official Release.
Test snapshots (however good the quality) and Release plans are OK.
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Exit+R
equirements
Note: incubator projects are not permitted to issue an official
Release.
Test snapshots (however good the quality) and Release plans are OK.
On 07.06.2005, at 22:48, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Demo? Technology preview? Milestone? Happy Meal?
Look, maybe this is hard to understand, especially if people are
coming from
an enviroment focused on code quality first, but this isn't about
the state
of the code. It is about the state
Eddie O'Neil wrote:
I've heard a couple of times that it's not possible to do a -final
release from the Incubator, but I've also heard some suggest that
it could be possible.
It should not be done, by definition of being in the Incubator.
Didn't Derby do one of these in December 2004 as
CIL...
If I'm messing up terminology
Oh, the terminology got messed up long ago. LOL :-) Even the term
Release has different connotations. It is neutral in the HTTP Server
project (beta and GA releases, for example), whereas Jakarta refers to
Nightly builds, Milestone builds and
On 31-05-2005 03:51, Eddie O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard a couple of times that it's not possible to do a -final
release from the Incubator, but I've also heard some suggest that it
could be possible.
Nope.
Didn't Derby do one of these in December 2004 as per:
CIL...
Leo Simons wrote:
On 31-05-2005 03:51, Eddie O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard a couple of times that it's not possible to do a -final
release from the Incubator, but I've also heard some suggest that it
could be possible.
Nope.
Okay, so I take it there's a
Noel--
I've heard a couple of times that it's not possible to do a -final
release from the Incubator, but I've also heard some suggest that it
could be possible.
Didn't Derby do one of these in December 2004 as per:
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