Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:06 -0700: > > On Jul 3, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Alex Harui wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:35 +: > It really is up to the PPMC Members coming around to how a full PMC and > RM would act in the Apache Way! No,

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Alex Harui wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:35 +: > Re-rolling required re-GPG-signing, new hashes, etc. Yes, I know how re-rolling works. I've RM'd things before. I still think in-band is better. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jim Jagielski wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:59 -0400: > IMO, we want 2 things: > > 1. Podlings, and PPMC members, to enjoy the legal protection of the > foundation when they do a release > > 2. The outside world, and esp downstream end-users, to know that > podling releases should be

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
David Nalley wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:21 -0400: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:38 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:27 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:10 AM Justin Mclean > > > wrote: > > > >... > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Although

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 12:16 -0700: > This only works for issues known before a release is cut. It does NOT > WORK if the issue is discovered during the release vote. Why? Because we > are trying to allow the release to go through without redoing it and > this would require

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Guys, aren't you forgetting something? The VP is to sign the Board report. Everything else that Justin is doing he's doing as a rank and file Incubator committer. If you disagree with Justin, that's one thing, but his being VP is orthogonal to your disagreement.

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:28 -0700: > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:39 AM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > >> ...I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]... > > > > Basically

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

2019-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Geertjan Wielenga wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 18:14:52 +0200: > Any community joining Apache should be very clear in their own minds that > the Incubator is there for them to get used to the Apache Way. It is not > there for getting releases done in the same cadence as before the community >

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Justin Mclean wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:39:22 +1000: > I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]. Fullquote of the link: > Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software > Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP

[PATCH] clutch: Fix broken links in the hasStatusEntry column

2019-03-09 Thread Daniel Shahaf
The links in the 'F' column are broken. Patch: Index: clutch.py === --- clutch.py (revision 1855125) +++ clutch.py (working copy) @@ -1117,7 +1117,7 @@ for k in sorted(projectNames, key=str.lower): '

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
r named Obi-Wan Kenobi" . with a link to Wikipedia for good measure. Cheers, Daniel > > On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > > Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800: > >> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800: > I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters > over there. When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of . Cheers, Daniel P.S.

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Kevin A. McGrail wrote on Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:57 +00:00: > Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc.  > Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a > company called winch gate.  There's the SIGWINCH signal in terminal applications.

Re: Apache ODF Toolkit (retired) migration to TDF

2019-02-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Thorsten Behrens wrote on Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:49 +0100: > 2. adding a pointer from the ASF website >https://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html to the new >TDF website for the project, such that people looking for it still >find the active project: > - perhaps also

Re: Apache ODF Toolkit (retired) migration to TDF

2019-02-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, 04 Feb 2019 09:35 -0800: > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Thorsten Behrens > > wrote: > > 3. if bugtracker, mailing list archives and the like are _not_ > > preserved or archived somewhere - if TDF could get a copy of at > > least the public part of that data for

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Julian Hyde wrote on Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:33:55 -0800: > The question with which I started this discussion has not been > answered. Given that a collection of artifacts is up for a vote, and > those artifacts are a mixture of source and binary artifacts, what is > a reviewer to do: > > 1. Vote

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Myrle Krantz wrote on Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 17:19:35 +0100: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:12 PM Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > > > The answer to (1) depends on the build platform and toolchain. > > Reproducible builds [in the sense of "building the same source twice >

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Myrle Krantz wrote on Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:24 +0100: > I had understood the reason that the foundation only officially supports > source releases to be the fear of undetected malware in the release (like > in the Ken Thompson hack). > > Is that correct? Are we all are in agreement that the

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
CC += legal-discuss@ since this really isn't an incubator-specific topic any more. The context is precompiled binary artifacts on https://www.apache.org/dist/. David Nalley wrote on Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 17:06:50 -0500: > So let's assume a PMC (or PPMC) goes through the same process with >

Re: Digests in releases

2017-08-31 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:35 -0700: > Regardless of what Jane User knows, and we have 200 million Jane Users of > Apache OpenOffice, I think it would be helpful to have an Apache Download > checker program/script that could be run to confirm the bonafides. > > An idea. Why stop

Re: Seeking interest and a champion for bifroest - a backend for graphite-web, on Apache Cassandra

2014-10-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Harald Kraemer wrote on Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 10:59:35 +0200: Thus, the first thought of bifroest was born: Why don't we take the good parts of Cyanide, a solid distributed database, such as Apache Cassandra, and the good parts of carbon and toss them in a big stew? That's what we did, and

Re: Reports needing shepherd attention

2014-06-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Roman Shaposhnik wrote on Sat, May 31, 2014 at 23:39:06 -0700: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Regardless, I guess my real question is this: if a podling feels that they need to achieve a certain milestone in software completeness before

Re: Reports needing shepherd attention

2014-05-31 Thread Daniel Shahaf
[ Brett: thanks for communicating my feedback to Roman; I missed his question to me in his previous mail. ] Roman Shaposhnik wrote on Sat, May 31, 2014 at 08:27:55 -0700: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: The first example listed a piece of software

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Curator as an Apache Top Level Project

2013-09-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 10:28:10AM -0400, Suresh Marru wrote: We don't need to worry for this vote, but in general relying on voter's statement is not a good idea. +1! (binding) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Welcome to the Incubator, Samza community!

2013-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 09:01:52AM -0700, Ross Gardler wrote: In the unlikely event that you are still unable to find a resolution then you can escalate to the Apache Board via your regular board reports. Should the matter be urgent feel free to contact the board via bo...@apache.org at any

Re: Welcome to the Incubator, Samza community!

2013-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 09:01:52AM -0700, Ross Gardler wrote: This discussion about the ombud is going around in circles and we need to close it. As an interim step I have edited the wiki to remove reference to the non-existent ombud. +1, thanks. (Scanned the text too, looks good except for

Re: Moderation of report reminders

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:57:33AM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote: A second possibility might be to consolidate `-allow` lists. (I'm not sure whether this is technically feasible -- it came up yesterday on the infra list, but the discussion was not conclusive. Perhaps one of the Infrastructure

Re: Moderation of report reminders

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:13:28PM +0100, sebb wrote: On 13 July 2013 19:28, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:57:33AM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote: A second possibility might be to consolidate `-allow` lists. (I'm not sure whether this is technically

Re: Moderation of report reminders

2013-07-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:13:28PM +0100, sebb wrote: On 13 July 2013 19:28, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:57:33AM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote: A second possibility might be to consolidate `-allow` lists. (I'm not sure whether this is technically

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles. Ombudsman is a roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that role for the ASF will be

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:49:55PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:49:51PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: +pOnce the vote has been called the proposal should be considered fixed

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:18:16AM +0100, Upayavira wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Solution: require all podlings to submit anonymous exit interviews as part of the graduation

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:49:51PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: +pOnce the vote has been called the proposal should be considered fixed. + No further changes are accepted./p Can I suggest that you make explicit the option to cancel the vote, amend the proposal, and re-start the vote?

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 01:34:39PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: However, in this specific case the social norm *should* be to allow the change to proceed - that's the most efficient process. Modifying a vote that has started is a slippery slope. (The same is true for reusing version numbers: ANY

Re: Redirect of new podling urls

2013-06-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:33:17PM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Redirect Permanent http://onami.incubator.apache.org http://onami.apache.org No need. The redirect will start working via httpd.conf once /dist/onami gets created.

Re: Redirect of new podling urls

2013-06-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:33:17PM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Redirect Permanent http://onami.incubator.apache.org http://onami.apache.org That is *supposed* to be handled by httpd.conf. Follow up w/ infra - onami is the first http://*.incubator.apache.org/ graduation (congrats).

Re: Unused OpenOffice source tree in incubator: keep or remove?

2013-05-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:40:19PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Is this the recommended configuration or shall we svn remove the whole old tree, maybe leaving only a README.txt pointing to the new location? Ask infra about arranging a redirect - this might be possible but would have to be

Re: Writing some tooling

2013-05-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Alan Cabrera wrote on Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:50:27 -0700: On May 10, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote: I'm currently writing some tooling to help with the incubation process as well as mail list moderator tools. The first thing that I'm writing is a

Re: Writing some tooling

2013-05-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Alan Cabrera wrote on Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:58:24 -0700: The first thing that I'm writing is a command that will print out who is the owner of an email alias and what projects they belong to and if they are ASF members. This will help me vet subscription requests since people rarely use

Re: Writing some tooling

2013-05-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, May 11, 2013 at 13:43:37 +0300: Alan Cabrera wrote on Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:58:24 -0700: The first thing that I'm writing is a command that will print out who is the owner of an email alias and what projects they belong to and if they are ASF members

[danie...@apache.org: svn commit: r1479414 - /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-contact.mdtext]

2013-05-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
New podlings without a website - FYI process change. See https://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling Daniel - Forwarded message from danie...@apache.org - Reply-To: site-...@apache.org Subject: svn commit: r1479414 -

Re: svn commit: r1465541 - /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-contact.mdtext

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Reviewing this, the document you added a link to contains bugs. Specifically, http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Set+Up+Repository is wrong (it contradicts http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling) and

Re: svn commit: r1465544 - /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-contact.mdtext

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
cross...@apache.org wrote on Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 07:03:56 -: Author: crossley Date: Mon Apr 8 07:03:56 2013 New Revision: 1465544 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1465544 Log: Link to the Graduation Guide. Modified: infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-contact.mdtext

Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata

2013-03-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
David Crossley wrote on Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 17:52:26 +1100: Christian Grobmeier wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote: Separately, I'd love to hear any comments about how this kind of requirement is expressed in the graduation guides. I.e. is it clear, even to normal

Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata

2013-03-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:34:24 +0200: David Crossley wrote on Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 17:52:26 +1100: Christian Grobmeier wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote: Separately, I'd love to hear any comments about how this kind of requirement

Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata

2013-03-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:57:55 -0400: Separately, I'd love to hear any comments about how this kind of requirement is expressed in the graduation guides. I.e. is it clear, even to normal humans (i.e. 99.99% of the world who are not Incubator experts) that these

Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
[ NOTE, crossposted public/private lists ] Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:43:46 +0100: Hello, I would like to commit that. Any objections? (spelling corrections welcome, right now or after the commit) cheers $ svn diff Index: content/guides/graduation.xml

Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 14:00:52 +0100: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: +liGitHub/li +liSourceForge.net/li +liGoogle Code/li

Re: [PROPOSAL] Automate Shepherd Assignments

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Matt Franklin wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:00:37 -0400: I will have to dig in to figure out how to accomplish this with the current infrastructure (any pointers welcome); but, I wanted to get buy-in on the concept first.

Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
In short: I think your text is good but belong on www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ rather than on the incubator docs. I'll reply on private lists with more detail Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 16:40:49 +0100: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf d

Re: Please publish the incubator website, when did changes

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 07:41:32 +0100: It would be better if the person who pushed a change (most often the status page) would also publish the website right after. Otherwise the next publisher will never knew if publication is desired or not. (speaking on my

Re: Suggested change to the ppmc guide

2013-03-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I believe the change represents current IPMC consensus but it'd be nice if the change documented the rationale for the policy as well (at least in the log message). Daniel (last week I ran into a 10 years old change that didn't have any justification anywhere) Chip Childers wrote on Wed, Mar 06,

Re: No more existing-TLP graduations (was: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator)

2013-03-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I suppose if a new product + its community want to become part of a PMC, coding could happen under that PMC (so for example: in a branch of their repository, releases require 3 +1's by that PMC), but with IPMC or comdev watching from the sidelines and helping if needed. Over at Subversion we once

Re: Would you please give me a write access to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator ?

2013-02-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I think you need to edit ContributorsGroup to make the [[username a link]] Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 23:06:44 +: Hi there Joe, I went ahead and granted karma. Please let me know if it works. It might not since there are spaces in your wiki username, so

Re: Wiki privs

2013-02-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Nick Burch wrote on Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:55:54 +: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Arun C Murthy wrote: Help, please? I've added you to this list. Two things though, firstly usernames with spaces in aren't that usual, so you should check it works. Secondly, an [[Arun Murthy]] would work

Re: Please help us granting rights to a new S4 committer

2013-02-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Sendingasf-authorization-template Transmitting file data . Committed revision 851328. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-02-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100: On 01.02.2013 18:05, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100: I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-02-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 18:06:11 +0100: On 02.02.2013 16:29, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100: I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we whimsy doesn't have the public-arch tree locally. Thanks

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-02-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100: I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server. The only supported way to get content to the web servers is to commit it to svn and have

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100: I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour. The first issue I see

Re: Fwd: [Incubator Wiki] Update of February2013 by RetoBachmannGmuer

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 20:21:00 +: Can someone please explain this diffs to me? Probably stripped trailing whitespace. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
David Crossley wrote on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 16:12:34 +1100: You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we need to get podling developers interested with. I

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100: On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote: Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just need to add a field to it we can. Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch metadata is

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:22:42 +0100: On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100: On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote: Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just need to add

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 22:01:32 +0100: On 24.01.2013 17:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100: On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100: I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to Do you also parse the d...@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 18:40:18 +0100: On 25.01.2013 18:26, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100: I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator list archives, not just general@, for vote threads

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100: On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail doesn't take cc's as being on the list or

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 05:05:42 +0100: There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using the current month's

Re: Citing documentation when critiquing podlings

2013-01-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
You mean http://www.producingoss.com/en/growth.html#using-archives ? (the first paragraphs apply just a well to documentation as to mail archives) Benson Margulies wrote on Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 13:54:07 -0500: I'd like to float the following idea: Any time anyone offers a critique of a

Re: Clean up users who are members of the incubator group and no other?

2013-01-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 06:18:19 -0500: This is a bit mysterious to me, as I thought that there wasn't one of these. I've been following prior precedent and adding people individually to the SVN acls for individual projects, not using a group at all. 'incubator' group

Re: First attempt at January2013 report template

2013-01-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
David Crossley wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 16:40:11 +1100: Jukka Zitting wrote: David Crossley kirjoitti: It all requires podlings to keep the project metadata up-to-date! Clutch can only use the data that it is fed. The poor state of the metadata has many ramifications.

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:01:03 -0500: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: Well, I don't think it's fine. As long as our release policy states that all releases must be archived on /dist we should do exactly that. Or

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:36:58 -0500: The bad news is that there is another software project with Oltu in the name (google oltu software, since trademarks are only important within general categories of products). The good news is it seems to simply be a streaming

Re: PPMC versus commiter

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 05:47:56 +0100: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: That's just RBD's signature boilerplate for a document he likely started. Feel free to remove it if you think it detracts from the document. I

Re: PPMC versus commiter

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 07:43:19 -0500: 3. Legally/organizationally, since PPMC members don't have binding votes, there's not much practical effect of making a distinction. At the end of the day, only Incubator PMC members have binding votes. The practical differences

Re: PPMC versus commiter

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 16:35:51 +: Making someone a C without PPMC gives them the power to evolve the code, but not to help make decisions about how can maintain it, or when to release it. Something about that, I just don't find right. You _don't need to

Re: PPMC versus commiter

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ross Gardler wrote on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 22:13:17 +: Christian, you can review any podling I'm a mentor on, including AOO, to see discussion of both models. I'm sure many other projects have discussed this too. The page you refer to is correct, there are two separate roles as

Re: Release mirroring

2012-12-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
svnpubsub isn't enabled for your dist area. You need to ask infra to set that up Alexander Broekhuis wrote on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 20:18:37 +0100: Hi all, I've added the first celix release to svn using the method described at [1]. During the vote the release was under dist/dev, and today I

Re: New tool for setting up the monthly report

2012-12-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 22:15:37 -0500: In 1421649, I've added clutch2report.py. Run this, and out pops report.txt, which can then be pasted into the wiki page. I wonder how complicated it might be to make it also create the say January2013 wiki page? (and then to cron

Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 07:20:35PM +0100, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I miss Onami and Ripple from the reminders. Helix and HDT are also missing; these four are all set up as ${podling}.incubator.apache.org - related? But they are listed here:

Re: Invoke silent consensus rule for podling releases

2012-12-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Make every vote a bugzilla issue, and use the existing script that mails an issue summary once a week? Ross Gardler wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 14:55:05 +: That tool would be useful in more places than the incubator. Great idea. I'm looking forward to seeing it ;-) Sent from my tablet

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Henk P. Penning wrote on Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:08:33 +0100: The reason given I ended up writing a Perl script doesn't make sense ; .md5 files come in many forms but the algorithm to verify is the same for all of them (there are no 'variations.') : verify (checksum md5, .md5-file

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jake Farrell wrote on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 22:02:16 -0500: That page is part of the Apache CMS and ASF members can edit that page by using the following http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#usage. Non ASF members can create a ticket within jira under the infra project and attach a patch

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 07:25:54 +0200: Jake Farrell wrote on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 22:02:16 -0500: That page is part of the Apache CMS and ASF members can edit that page by using the following http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#usage. Non ASF members can create

New graduation jiras

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-graduation outlines the jira tickets infra would like to see when a project requests resources migration at TLP graduation. The biggest change is that DNS/website/mailinglists are handled by 1 ticket. Some caveats not documented there are: -

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Roman Shaposhnik wrote on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 18:05:15 -0800: +infra Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the other. Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer the question?

Committership of a podling

2012-11-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
When a podling graduates, their unix group needs to created and initialised with the committers of that podling. Is it possible to get that set of availid's programmatically? Basically, do I have options other than use the authz file group, if such exists.

Re: Committership of a podling

2012-11-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:25:48 +: On 22 November 2012 10:42, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: When a podling graduates, their unix group needs to created and initialised with the committers of that podling. Is it possible to get that set of availid's

Re: Committership of a podling

2012-11-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 15:10:50 +: On 22 November 2012 12:15, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: sebb wrote on Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:25:48 +: On 22 November 2012 10:42, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: When a podling graduates, their unix group

Re: Committership of a podling

2012-11-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 00:08:53 +: On 22 November 2012 22:16, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: ... If someone wants to scrape a file, I'd suggest adding a script to foundation/board/scripts which would take the date as a parameter and then scrape

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Mayhem proposal

2012-11-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Renaming later (a) creates work for infra, (b) forces the community to expend effort communicating the rename to the world. So id'd be better to settle the name sooner rather than later. Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote on Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 20:57:26 +0100: Hi Christian... Isn't that a step

Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December

2012-11-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Upayavira wrote on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:48:28 +: Having said that, I personally would like to see some kind of separation between mentors and the incubator PMC. I think th PMC should be a smaller, more active group who take a more active interest in the incubator as it is, and perhaps

Re: Release procedural question

2012-11-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Chip Childers wrote on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 14:27:24 -0400: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: Hi all, In reading the release policy section about the detached signature file and the voting process, there is a mention about allowing (at the

Re: Release procedural question

2012-11-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Chip Childers wrote on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 14:47:33 -0400: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: In my experience, 'gpg --verify' sometimes verifies only the first signature in a file. It appears to function correctly now: ... This is with version

Re: ${podling}.incubator.apache.org

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jukka Zitting wrote on Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:03:43 +0200: Hi, On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Do people mind if web sites (and maybe mailing lists) of new podlings live at domains of the form ${podling}.incubator.apache.org? Sounds like

Re: key signing

2012-10-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:07:56 -0700: https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/orcmid.asc. (I'm not sure where this is fetched from, so I'm not sure how counter-signed versions Currently keys.gnupg.net

Re: ${podling}.incubator.apache.org

2012-10-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 16:36:20 +: I would be +1 for simply ${podling}.apache.org, per: Infra doesn't have an opinion on this. I think it's technically possible. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Preparing for the October reports

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
sebb wrote on Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 04:08:53 +0100: On 11 October 2012 22:30, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On

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