Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Clebert Suconic
and please.. don't just send the log of the discussions here... Email (asynchronous) follows a different format than a chat conversation. When you write an email, you usually put int extra effort on giving the context... when you go to a chat channel is more like.. Example:

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote: > ...I still think you should keep discussions > at the dev list Yes. "If it didn't happen on the dev list it didn't happen" is stil valid as ever. Slack and other channels are fine for throwaway watercooler

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Clebert Suconic
I couldn't find anything at storage-class-memory.slack.com I am joining the thing.. but I still think you should keep discussions at the dev list. if someone could help me to get on the group please? On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > I see your point,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
I see your point, Lazy is one of motivation why we want to code, so perhaps a Slack summary bot is desired... :-) On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Clebert Suconic wrote: > I don't think you should sync it... > > Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Clebert Suconic
I don't think you should sync it... Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I was educated inside the project I work at.. (activemq) that talking on a private list is ok... but you should always direct the discussions to the dev list with a summary of the decision.. etc I was once

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Gary Wong
It is #storage-class-memory Let me take a look to see if there is a way to sync slack channel with mail list bi-directionally... On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Clebert Suconic wrote: > All the communication is happening on slatck? > > shouldn't that all happen on a

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Clebert Suconic
All the communication is happening on slatck? shouldn't that all happen on a mail list? It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the list. What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless. On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-15 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Hi Lewis, Invitation sent, Welcome to join us. Best. Gary On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney wrote: > Hi Gary, > I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping it. I > have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-14 Thread Lewis John McGibbney
Hi Gary, I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping it. I have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using Avro) for a number of years. Gora is described as follows The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model and

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-07 Thread Avinash Dongre
Thanks Gary, I have already joined slack channel. Thanks Avinash On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and > join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks! > > Best > Gary. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-07 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Hi Amit and Atri, The invitations have been sent to your mailbox, please accept to join our channel #storage-class-memory. thanks. Best, Gary. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Atri Sharma wrote: > I would like to participate as well > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-07 Thread Atri Sharma
I would like to participate as well On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and > join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks! > > Best > Gary. > > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-07 Thread Amit Saha
Hi Gary, I think the admin needs to invite. I could not join. Regards, Amit On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and > join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks! > > Best >

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-06 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks! Best Gary. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre wrote: > I'd like to participate in this as well. > > Thanks > Avinash > > > On Sat,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-11-04 Thread Avinash Dongre
I'd like to participate in this as well. Thanks Avinash On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel #storage-class-memory, > Thanks!

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-27 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel #storage-class-memory, Thanks! On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-25 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post major findings and summary on Apache mail list... On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic wrote: > What about IRC. A

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-25 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Good Apache program name for storage-class memory oriented projects, so let's propose this program to Apache board if appropriate, Thanks! On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: > BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”? > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-25 Thread Clebert Suconic
What about IRC. A lot of projects use it at Apache. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the > progress is > > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created > 2) Invite project

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-25 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Add *ActiveMQ and Geode* - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi* - *Hive/LLAP *represented by *Gopal Vijayaraghavan* - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley* -

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Swapnil Bawaskar
I would be happy to represent Apache Geode. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: > BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”? > > debo > > On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)" wrote: > > Yes,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”? debo On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)" wrote: Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a DISCUSS thread. debo On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary)

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a DISCUSS thread. debo On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang" wrote: It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the progress is 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this Slack channel - not yet but soon later 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup -

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Clebert Suconic
I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a discussion... On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah wrote: > Hello Gary, > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Hitesh Shah
Hello Gary, Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this) where any interested folks could subscribe to? thanks -- Hitesh On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Clebert Suconic
I didn’t know I could represent a project. In that case I’m representing ActiveMQ. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:33 AM Von Gosling wrote: > I'm happy to represent Apache RocketMQ on this storage collaboration > effort. This is a very key in low latency messaging. > > Best

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks! On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta wrote: > Would love to help

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-24 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Add *Hive/LLAP and RocketMQ* - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi* - *Hive/LLAP *represented by *Gopal Vijayaraghavan* - *RocketMQ *represented by *Von Gosling*

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Von Gosling
I'm happy to represent Apache RocketMQ on this storage collaboration effort. This is a very key in low latency messaging. Best Regards, Von Gosling > 在 2017年10月20日,02:55,Gang(Gary) Wang 写道: > > Hi all, > > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Debojyoti Dutta
Would love to help out in any way including working towards common benchmarks, APIs etc. Debo Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup > > - Sharing idea and good practice > -

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup - Sharing idea and good practice - Identifying common opportunities - Promoting storage-class memory application - Delivering solid solution - Avoiding reinvent the wheel - Integrating one another - Coordinating the progress

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Add ORC - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi* - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley* - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary* With above projects, we could cover

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Owen O'Malley
I can represent ORC within the group. .. Owen > On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > > Hi all, > > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics > because silicon

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Gopal Vijayaraghavan
> I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches > well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io) where > we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to > distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network > fabrics. We are

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-23 Thread Clebert Suconic
+1 On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Gary Wong wrote: > Add Crail > >- *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda >- *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney >- *Hbase *represented by Anoop John >- *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi* >- *Mnemonic *represented by*

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-21 Thread Gary Wong
Add Crail - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi* - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary* With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-20 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Hi Patrick Am happy to help w Crail. Thx Debo Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:14 AM, patrick stuedi > wrote: I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches well with the focus we have in the Crail project

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-20 Thread patrick stuedi
I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io) where we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network fabrics. We are currently

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-20 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their communities. - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary* With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-20 Thread Atri Sharma
+1 On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John wrote: > +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase. > > -Anoop- > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney wrote: >> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line >> with

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Johnu
Interested. I agree with Gary. Great to see the collaboration effort. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Anoop John wrote: > +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase. > > -Anoop- > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney wrote: >> I'm happy

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Anoop John
+1..Am there to represent Apache HBase. -Anoop- On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney wrote: > I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line > with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured > data sets and

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Wes McKinney
I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured data sets and cache-efficient memory layout. - Wes On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta wrote: > This is a great idea.

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Debojyoti Dutta
This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many of the Apache projects. Debo Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang wrote: > > Hi all, > > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential >

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Denis Magda
Hi Gary, I’m ready to represent Apache Ignite [1] community within the group. Some of our community folks have already benchmarked Intel Optane (3D XP) and there are plans to integrate with this technology natively. [1] https://ignite.apache.org — Denis > On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM,

[DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

2017-10-19 Thread Gang(Gary) Wang
Hi all, We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change the