Re: [VOTE] Move Jakarta to the Attic; close down Jakarta PMC

On 2011-11-10, Henri Yandell wrote: > A joint vote to retire Jakarta into the Attic and to ask the board to > close down the PMC. > [ ] +1 > [ ] -1, because +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakar

Re: [VOTE] Apache JMeter TLP

On 2011-10-13, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > This is a vote for proposing an Apache JMeter TLP resolution to the > board, with sebb nominated as the first Chair. The full text appears > below [1] and is also on the wiki [2]. Vote will remain open for > atleast 72 hours. > 8< > [X] +1, its time f

Re: [VOTE] Release JMeter 2.5.1 RC2

/home/oleg/Downloads/jakarta-jmeter-2.5.1/build.xml:2101: The type doesn't support the nested "mapper" element. Is this a common issue? On 2011-09-26, sebb wrote: > On 26 September 2011 21:45, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 21:00 +0100, sebb wrote: >>> Not se

Re: BSF SVN moved

On 2011-08-17, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > Hen, > On 17.08.2011 06:29, Henri Yandell wrote: >> Post the successful vote to move BSF over to Commons, I've moved the >> svn into the Commons tree. >> New svn url: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/bsf/trunk >> Or you can check ou

Re: [VOTE] Release JMeter 2.5 RC3

> All feedback (and votes!) welcome. > [ ] +1 I support this release > [ ] +0 I am OK with this release > [ ] -0 OK, but > [ ] -1 I do not support this release (please indicate why) Same tests performed as with the last two RCs, all looks good to me. +1 Stefan ---

Re: [VOTE] Release JMeter 2.5 RC2

On 2011-08-09, Milamber wrote: > Archives/hashes/sigs: > http://people.apache.org/~milamber/jmeter-2.5RC2/dist > > MD5 hashes of archives for this vote: > > 1f8aaf3a2ab7206366a07c91bbafae55 *jakarta-jmeter-2.5.tgz > c557b3ff2c667693c8eb97cd67a09a95 *jakarta-jmeter-2.5.zip > 5c3bb2e583133adeff7f0

Re: [VOTE] Release JMeter 2.5 RC1

On 2011-08-01, Milamber wrote: > The first release candidate for JMeter 2.5 has been prepared, and your > votes are solicited. I haven't performed any sort of test, not even tried to build JMeter. * hashes and sigs are fine * source tarball and svn tag differ in some ways, some minor like no

Re: [VOTE] Cactus to the Attic

On 2011-07-23, Henri Yandell wrote: > Proposing this as a challenge vote (i.e. if no one has a good -1 > against something moving to the attic, it's a sign it should go to the > attic). > [X] +1, G'night Cactus > [ ] -1, No because: +1 Stefan ---

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move BCEL and JCS to Commons

On 2011-06-23, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > After reasonable support to the idea on Jakarta and Commons lists, > this is a vote to move BCEL and JCS to Apache Commons. +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta.a

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move Jakarta Regexp to Attic

On 2011-03-22, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > This is a vote to move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on > the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@jakarta

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Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Cactus 1.8.0

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Petar Tahchiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found a small error in the trunk and after consulting with sebb I > decided to make another archives and a tag: > > Please cast your vote as you feel it :-). +1 Stefan

Re: [VOTE] Cactus 1.8.0

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Petar Tahchiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now the archives are called 1.8.0, so that if the vote passes they > will be used as official. The tag is here: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/cactus/tags/1.8.0-RC2/ > > and the archives here: > http://people.apache.org/d

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

On Tue, 8 May 2007, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it > move to TLP. > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution +1 Stefan -

Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

On Fri, 4 May 2007, Nick Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After lots of discussion within POI, and Jakarta in general, we > think POI is ready to graduate to its own TLP. Thanks to the magic > of ApacheCon, lots of people have been on-hand to help finalise the > proposal for this, which is attac

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Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all > jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the > exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and > jakarta-jmeter under the assumption th

Re: last modified

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be cross platform dont expect more than 2sec. Ant uses 2 secs on windows and 1 sec on Unix as a heuristic. It is not correct (it depends on the filesystem, not the OS[1]) but a good guess in most cases. Stefan Footnotes: [1

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.4

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Vadim Gritsenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please try out current svn (r232390) version [4] and test for any > regressions, and vote for a release. The big regression test named Gump didn't see issues and my test running Ant's regexp tests all passed as well. +1 Stefan -

Re: svn commit: r225366 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/downloads/downloads_tomcat-connectors.html xdocs/downloads/downloads.xml

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also see a pending mod for Stefan's update of whoweare.html. My fault. I was on a machine with no Java 5 on it and knew that if I regenerated the site a whole lot changes would get commited that I didn't want. I should have added

Re: Dual licensing of code

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am now looking at writing an article about unit testing and would > like to be able to provide these classes as code in the public > domain, just to make it as easy as possible for readers of the > article to reuse that code. > >

Re: [svn] Alexandria: migrate or archive?

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't remember, are we going to migrate Alexandria over to SVN, or > treat it like jakarta-site, jakarta-site-old and other obviously > dead modules. I'd tar up the CVS module and make it available for download from archive.apache.

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Re: VOTE: Tomcat -> TLP

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005, Ian F. Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I vote in support of the proposal to move Tomcat to an Apache > Top Level Project as detailed in the attached Resolution. +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: [Fwd: [SECURITY ISSUE] Using allowLinking with deprecated HTTP 1.1 connector]

I have no idea where the original thread happened, at least I didn't see any mails before this one. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i wonder whether henri might be able to bring this up (either > formally or informally) with aim of discovering whether jakar

Re: Problems under 1.5 Was: [site] New Jakarta download pages

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that the JDK stuff in the classpath is going to butcher > even an attempt to use Xalan directly via the tag. If you use instead of it should work. > The second is the use of the redirect extension. This is where I thoug

Re: [site] bug update

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:41:38 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Known problems: >> >> * Chain, IO, Transaction, Validator use .MD5 instead of .md5 > > I think this is an Ant vs. Maven issue, although I don't

Re: Problems under 1.5 Was: [site] New Jakarta download pages

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The current problems are largely due to a stupid assumption on my > part that Xalan would be the JDK xslt handler forever. XSLTC is considered the next generation of Xalan, or so it seems. Looking at our Gump experience, whichever v

Re: Problems under 1.5 Was: [site] New Jakarta download pages

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > >> While it was using XSLTC, which is the TraX processor shipping with >> JDK 1.5. We now switched to Xalan-J's CVS HEAD. > > I give up :) > >

Re: [site] New Jakarta download pages

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Odd, not seen that in 1.4 before. I'm on a Mac, but Gump on 1.4 > didn't notice it either, I assume on either Linux or BSD/Linux. Debian Linux. It now uses -bootclasspath to force in CVS HEAD of Xalan-J, but the build worked even be

Re: [site] failure when using Xalan XSLTC

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Want to give it a try or shall I re-configure Gump? > > I'm mentally incapacitated with the flu, try what? :) Sorry to hear that. > The xml instead of xhtml bit? Yes. I fully expect the build to fail with an OutOfMemory exceptio

Re: [site] failure when using Xalan XSLTC

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Going to get worse too, the download stuff I'm doing uses a Xalan > extension (redirect) to have 1 xml -> 1 xsl -> N output files. XSLTC supports Xalan-J redirect extensions, if you use the "correct" syntax (i.e use the http://xml.ap

[site] failure when using Xalan XSLTC

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Re: [site] Odd Ant question

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To do this copying, I basically want to do the equivalent of: > > --- > For each downloads_*.html file > copy downloads.cgi downloads_*.cgi > > > Any idea how I do that in Ant? The first answer which many people in A

[FWD] ApacheCon Europe 2005 Call for Participation is open

I vaguely recall some people asking for the CfP here some weeks ago ... Stefan > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:14:43 -0500 > From: Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: The Apache Software Foundation > Subject: ApacheCon Europe 2005 Call for Part

Re: Request for karma for jakarta-site2

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Re: md5 checksum formats on BSD

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Mark R. Diggory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the larger community the BSD default format is refered to as SVF > (Simple File Verification) and the GNU md5sum format as MD5SUM, I > suspect it would be good to see these as output features/options > that could be set within An

Re: md5 checksum formats on BSD

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you happen to know which flavour Ant creates? Ant only inserts the checksum itself into a file which is different from either format AFAIK. There've been plans to make the format pluggable, but noone stepped up to code it yet (it

Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

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Re: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, jean-frederic clere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds good: Could I get karma for jakarta-site2? You have it now. Stefan -- http://stefanbodewig.blogger.de/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

Re: Adding project version to bugzilla

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea who the people with access to do this are Martin? Within > Jakarta anyway? I'm sure that there are a few more of us who can (me for example). Pier granted karma to me about four years ago. I think most people who've been re

Re: download pages rethink

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tend to disagree with your assertion that PGP signtures are less >> important than MD5 signatures. But then again, given how badly >> connected the PGP keys used to sign most Jakarta releases are, you >> are probably correct. A

Re: download pages rethink

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm happy for discussion to continue on this list I feel more comfortable to do so, but that may be a personal thing. Discussions need to get the use of "I" to stick to a name and the Wiki really doesn't make this easy. I te

Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm a little out of the infrastructure loop now. (i had thought that > infrastructure were now responsible for maintaining the foundation > website and so requests had to go through them.) Yes and no. "Responsible" is the new

Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this change needed infrastructure to update a list of paths to make > the cgi script work with the new url. This is not strictly true. Anybody with commit access to the site module could do that, this includes far more peopl

Re: Karma for commons Sandbox?

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Re: Hibernate in Apache projects

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, David Sean Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been reading through the licensing and Im not entirely sure if > its compatible with the Apache license. Roy once pointed out why he things the LGPL is more or less identical to the GPL when it comes to Java[1]. If he's cor

Re: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i thought i might add links to a couple of well-known downstream > distributors of packages and ports to the resources (unofficial) > section: > > http://www.jpackage.org/ > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/java.html +1 Stefan

Re: [site] Sister Resources

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Re: [site] Sister Resources

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Put Apache > Jakarta Project to all the XML files in "jakarta-site2" > module. I still think the obfuscation is pointless. > 3. Renamed "Translated(Web)" to "Sister Resources" @ left-side navi I'd prefer a label that implies

Re: [site] Sister Resources

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11 Mar 2004, at 12:47, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:31 +0100 >>> Stefan Bodewig wrote: >

Re: [site] Sister Resources

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:31 +0100 > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > >> > Also, at the same time, i'd like to perform the clean-up things >> > upon "jakarta-site2" module -- > > email=

Re: [site] Sister Resources

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it that perhaps we can use > "Sister Resources" > title on the left-side nav @ each jakarta.apache pages. > > I'll perform such a change if i can see no objections here. > (next week) Depends on what you consider a sister

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Howard M. Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I agree with Phil's nit about the term "Jakarta Commons incubator", >> there ain't no such thing and we shouldn't try to put the commons >> sandbox on the same level as the Apache Incubator. > > > That was just an unfortun

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [X] +1 I support this proposal > [ ] -1 I don't support this proposal > [ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal > > Comments : I agree with Phil's nit about the term "Jakarta Commons incubator", there ain't

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Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement > mailing list or will they be creating a new list? We'll have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] that takes over for [EMAIL PROTECTED], at least this is the plan. I don't t

Re: Using apache feather logo

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, TANAKA Yoshihiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pleae inform me if there will be any license violation in usage > of this feather logo. Even though this link is to the FAQ of httpd, it should apply to the Apache logos in general:

Re: jakarta-future Was: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be very noisy, indeed. Szre. > Here are some stats from October (from message counts displayed at > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com) > > struts tomcat commons > user 3115 2908 375 > dev 759 1131

Re: [NOTICE] to all jakarta committers

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, if not forwarded, please ensure that you read mail to your > Apache account. For example, you can ssh to minotaur and read it > using pine. Which you'll be unable to do if your account has to be locked because of a security incid

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site elsewhere.xml

bodewig 2003/09/30 06:19:40 Modified:docs index.html docs/site elsewhere.html xdocsindex.xml xdocs/site elsewhere.xml Log: Announce the Ant 1.6beta release Revision ChangesPath 1.313 +1 -1 jakarta-site2/docs

Re: Changes to the jakarta-site

On 04 Sep 2003, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to put some update about the Turbine project Don't you want to add a blurb on the news page and index.html as well? > and also yours truly into the jakarta-site. I've modified your patch to put your name under committe

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site binindex.xml other-releases.xml overview.xml sourceindex.xml whoweare.xml

bodewig 2003/09/04 03:43:59 Modified:docs/site binindex.html other-releases.html overview.html sourceindex.html whoweare.html xdocs/site binindex.xml other-releases.xml overview.xml sourceindex.xml whoweare.xml Log: Add

Re: Changes to the jakarta-site

On 04 Sep 2003, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What can I do / whom must I contact to change this? There are a couple of people who can grant you karma to jakarta-site (I can't, sorry) and who are subscribed here. > I've attached two patches that I'd like to see applied. :-)

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site mail.xml mail2.xml

bodewig 2003/08/22 04:26:57 Modified:docs/site mail.html mail2.html xdocs/site mail.xml mail2.xml Log: Replace archives.apache.org with nagoya Revision ChangesPath 1.85 +1 -1 jakarta-site2/docs/site/mail.html Index: mail.html

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site elsewhere.xml

bodewig 2003/08/12 23:39:51 Modified:docs index.html docs/site elsewhere.html xdocsindex.xml xdocs/site elsewhere.xml Log: Announce 1.5.4 Revision ChangesPath 1.288 +1 -1 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Paulo Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but this got to such a dimension that I am sure all sysadmins must > know how it works by now. Unlikely, this is by for not the first virus/worm working that way - during the last round I got informed that I was banned from the netbean

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets project.xml

bodewig 2003/05/29 23:04:31 Modified:docs index.html docs/site acknowledgements.html agreement.html binindex.html bugs.html communication.html contact.html contributing.html cvsindex.html cvsonunix.html

Re: Jakarta-site access & PMC membership for howard lewis ship

On Thu, 29 May 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to propose that Howard Lewis Ship be given jakarta-site > access and I hereby nominate him for the Jakarta PMC. +1 to both Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-m

Re: .htaccess and Redirect's

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 31/03/2003 05:21:35 PM: > >> RedirectMatch ^/maven(.*) http: >> //jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven$1 > > I've removed tha

Re: .htaccess and Redirect's

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas?? First, there is this here in the top-level .htaccess RedirectMatch ^/maven(.*) http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven$1 which might get into the way of the Redirect in .htaccess insi

Re: redirect for /turbine/maven to maven.apache.org/

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know how/where this redirect can be set up? Take a look at the .htaccess file on jakarta.apache.org, which already contains redirects for james, ant and avalon. Oh, before you change it on the server, it is under CVS control (docs/.ht

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/site news.xml

On 24 Mar 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Modified:docs/site news.html >xdocsindex.xml >docs index.html >xdocs/site news.xml > Log: > Tapestry 2.4-alpha-5 release Howard, you will probably want to add Tapestry to the download p

Re: website (was RE: [PATCH] promoted sub-projects)

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ended up moving everything around in the menus and on the home > page, I like it, some nits - you will want to add Maven under related. - maybe DB as well. - I'm not quite sure why webservices qualify as related but httpd doesn'

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