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> > >What? And lose my 10-minute investment in learning PHP? No way! > >Besides, now I can have fun a whole weekend, just changing the name of a >field in the database. My life would seem empty in comparison, if I got to >use those pesky frameworks that do everything for you. > >(Never thought one

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He is just the first dutch serial killer on the loose ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 13:57, Stephane Bailliez wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > [...] > > the world. I have also taken the precaution of killing all my > > family an

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Hi Andy! > -Mensaje original- > De: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: viernes 19 de julio de 2002 13:28 > Para: Jakarta General List > Asunto: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > Initial development costs are < 1/3 of the overall cos

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> -Original Message- > From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] > the world. I have also taken the precaution of killing all my > family and friends so you have no way to blackmail me. Are you by any chance a relative of Kaiser Soze ? ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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LOL :-) Danny Angus wrote: >>I have also taken the precaution of killing all my family and >>friends >> >> > >Seems like a sound move to me, we could all do it, that'd show Micro$oft >who's the boss. >d. > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For additional commands,

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Leo Simons wrote: >I didn't reply because I know POI is just one of microsoft's ploys to >bring java to its knees. The idea behind this scheme is to bring the >worsts bits of their own software to java, promote it using massive FUD >(your recent e-mail proof of this, as is JSP), then improve thei

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ts Evangelist >>>Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network" >>>http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-Original Message--

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> I have also taken the precaution of killing all my family and > friends Seems like a sound move to me, we could all do it, that'd show Micro$oft who's the boss. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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I didn't reply because I know POI is just one of microsoft's ploys to bring java to its knees. The idea behind this scheme is to bring the worsts bits of their own software to java, promote it using massive FUD (your recent e-mail proof of this, as is JSP), then improve their own software, and fin

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Hi Andrew, > -Mensaje original- > De: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: viernes 19 de julio de 2002 0:10 > Para: Jakarta General List > Asunto: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > Live in your happy little world, and if you're happy

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> > >>>You mean PHP right? :-) >>> >>> >>> > >ASP.NET.COM.ORG > > > :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:04 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > > > > Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > > > > > > Mvgr, > > > Martin > > > > An

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> > >You're right... http://www.vnunet.com/ (my employer's). All JSP based, and >it works (it really does, some millions of hit per day), but from that to >say that it is actually "done right", well, there's quite some difference... > > yes. >JSP suck, they (can) work, but at the end of the day

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On 7/18/02 6:11 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> It works just fine with Struts - come see what you can do with Velocity and >> Struts. Even if we don't convert you to the One True Way ?®(sm) :) you will >> at least stop comparing apples and oranges. >> >> >> > Yo

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Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JSP --- IS --- a temendously bad hack. You're right... http://www.vnunet.com/ (my employer's). All JSP based, and it works (it really does, some millions of hit per day), but from that to say that it is actually "done right", well, there's quite some

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> > >It works just fine with Struts - come see what you can do with Velocity and >Struts. Even if we don't convert you to the One True Way ?®(sm) :) you will >at least stop comparing apples and oranges. > > > You mean PHP right? :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For

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at is maintainable under time, perhaps you'll look up a more advanced framework and grow to find the failings in JSP. -Andy JSP = Java's Super PERL! :-) > > >James Mitchell >Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist >Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network&qu

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on 7/18/02 1:44 PM, "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's nothing wrong with JSP. Those that bash it are those who clearly > have no understanding of it. That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Here is a great picture of a JSP user: http://whichever.com/hea

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On 7/18/02 4:44 PM, "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP] I don't want to get into a flamefest about this, but I can't resist correcting two things : > > > Now hack away at this and try to make an application somehow. JSP was > simply a natural progression from static html. (DUH

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On 7/18/02 4:04 PM, "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) >>> >>> Mvgr, >>> Martin >> >> Anakia >> >> I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then >> processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia >

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ng my negative opinions on developer lists. (well, until now ;) James Mitchell Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network" http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta > -----Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

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On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 20:42, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html This .wav could perhaps add to the effect that you are trying to get across: http://151.200.3.8/~vze29k6v/idiot.wav John -- ** John Thorhauer ** [EMAIL PROTECTE

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But no one replied to my lovely email when I said that other than POI and HTTPD there was only actually one Apache project, all the others are the same project implemented different ways and that JSP had the structure of a dog turned inside out... I was so proud of that...how mean of you all n

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> > Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > > > > Mvgr, > > Martin > > Anakia > > I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then > processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia > and just using PHP. > > PHP is terribly fugly and encourages the

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Teteringen, The Netherlands (ask the Turbine list how it is there ;) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is > everyone located? > > Aaron > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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Andy FAQ: http://www.trilug.org/~acoliver/ -Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is >everyone located? > >Aaron > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For additional commands, e-mail:

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I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is everyone located? Aaron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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essage- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > > on 7/17/02 3:43 PM, "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

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I don't think I want to imagine what the content may be..;)) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 02:14, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Paulo Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And even better is there is a revenge: > > - Lots of pictures! > > Being Jon one of my closest friends since _a_lot_, he

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Paulo Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And even better is there is a revenge: > - Lots of pictures! Being Jon one of my closest friends since _a_lot_, he has _a_lot_ of compromising material on me... And not only pictures (aaarrrggghhh) Pier (ducks for cover) -- [Perl] combines all the

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It really is to perfect! I didn't notice that the dress really is pink! =:oD Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:11 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost

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And even better is there is a revenge: - Lots of pictures! =:o) Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:58 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > &g

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > > on 7/17/02 4:30 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nope, but if it helps making him look better, I have a pic of > Jon wearing

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Pier Fumagalli wrote: >Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Pier, you and I both need to get out more. ;-) >> >> > >I have all the beer I need right in my fridge... Why bother? There's also a >tube strike here in London... :) > > There's one of those in the US too, been th

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Tool late ;) We want to see that picture.. Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 01:54, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 7/17/02 4:30 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier, I have pictures of you that I can blackmail you with as well..

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 7/17/02 4:33 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>+1 - I can't wait to convert my site from JSP (just on principle). >>Though it will be to XML, I'd never lower myself to using just >>PHP of course. And anyhow my objective is to only update dat

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Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/17/02 4:30 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pier, I have pictures of you that I can blackmail you with as well...=) Okokokok :) I'll just shut up now! :) I swear I'm not going to do that anymore! :) :) :) :) Pier -- [Perl

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on 7/17/02 4:30 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, but if it helps making him look better, I have a pic of Jon wearing a > pink ballerina dress... > > (amazing what Halloween can do!) > > Pier That is a good picture...my 'package' looks HUGE! The Jakarta women will want

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Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pier, you and I both need to get out more. ;-) I have all the beer I need right in my fridge... Why bother? There's also a tube strike here in London... :) Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different su

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on 7/17/02 4:33 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 - I can't wait to convert my site from JSP (just on principle). > Though it will be to XML, I'd never lower myself to using just > PHP of course. And anyhow my objective is to only update data when I > want to change somethin

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Pier Fumagalli wrote: >Paulo Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html >>> >>> >>With a file name like this, I miss a "pink hearts" background. >> >>Does anyone have one of those to contribute? >> >> > >Nope, but if it helps making him look be

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 7/17/02 3:43 PM, "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) >> >>Mvgr, >>Martin >> >> > >Anakia > >I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then >processed through PHP. I'm going to be m

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Paulo Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html > > With a file name like this, I miss a "pink hearts" background. > > Does anyone have one of those to contribute? Nope, but if it helps making him look better, I have a pic of Jon wearing a pink ballerina dre

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on 7/17/02 3:43 PM, "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > > Mvgr, > Martin Anakia I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia and just using

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you're sicksick...sick. -Andy Martin van den Bemt wrote: >Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > >Mvgr, >Martin > >On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 00:23, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > >>on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>You don't think Jon should be t

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Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 00:23, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You don't think Jon should be the mascot somehow? > > I am the mascot... every time I post the idiot.html link...so

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>You don't think Jon should be the mascot somehow? >> >> > >I am the mascot... every time I post the idiot.html link...someone (usually > Yes I usually enjoy it. Anyhow I was picturing you w

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on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't think Jon should be the mascot somehow? I am the mascot... every time I post the idiot.html link...someone (usually you) goes and posts the jon.html link and everyone goes in circles again...it is quite funny...people

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; >Have fun, >Paulo > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:03 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? >> >> >>on 7/17/02 1

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> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html > > Amazing what a symlink can do. :D :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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July 17, 2002 9:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > > on 7/17/02 11:21 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ROTFL > > > > BTW, nice touch that photo! > > =;o) > > > > H

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on 7/17/02 11:21 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ROTFL > > BTW, nice touch that photo! > =;o) > > Have fun, > Paulo http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html Amazing what a symlink can do. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands,

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ROTFL BTW, nice touch that photo! =;o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:13 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > > "Hen

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"Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] we should be getting some more powerful mail list servers, just in case. Not needed. Trust me. Pier (the mail master) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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The Jon page completely ignores the concept of a Jakarta project to build a set of protocols under which Jon can act so as to avoid causing riots in first world countries. I would like to propose this as a top level Jakarta project and fully believe its mail list will receive more noise than any o

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You could also set up a macro to be civil ! - Original Message - From: "James Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > I love h

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> I love how people spend more time getting bent out of shape because there > is a wrong posting on an email list by a newbie and spend more effort > refering them to the 'idiot' page than if they were to just help them out But the idiot page takes almost no effort at all. That's why it is so gre

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on 7/16/02 5:33 PM, "Vishal Pahuja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All: > > I have a custom servlet that works/responds if I type in following in the > URL http://vpahuja:8080/servlet/com.esri.esrimap.Esrimap?CMD=appserverping > where com.esri.esrimap.Esrimap is our custom servlet > The same fail