On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:49:05 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
Hans de Graaff wrote:
dev-lang/ruby-cvs builds the latest Ruby 1.9.x version from CVS.
Except... upstream has moved to SVN, so this ebuild no longer works.
It's now masked and will be removed in 30 days.
Is there any point in
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What, you're saying they all ship with test suites that exist but don't
work?
anything that takes more than 10m to test is broken from an user point
of view: you want the application, not having it tested.
I'd rather keep it in features since tests are _optional_, not
Fabian Groffen wrote:
This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps dir.
I nearly forgot about it. Anyway, feedback is appreciated.
Since it is a keywording scheme that is compatible with the scheme that is
currently in use and fulfils all the requirements, it sounds
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
It's not such a big deal in practise is it?
Yes, it is. It's a change in workflow, and it at least doubles the
amount of work for each commit.
do what? if it's so tricky write a script..
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On Saturday 14 April 2007 18:14:48 Luca Barbato wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What, you're saying they all ship with test suites that exist but don't
work?
anything that takes more than 10m to test is broken from an user point
of view: you want the application,
Indeed, but speaking as a
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
I'd say Ciaran has to have write access to any such repository,
as one of the main contributors.
Face it, he's never going to get write access to gentoo infra. The best
gentoo can give him is access via spb, who has made it clear he'll simply
be pulling in
Hi,
Tempted by this recent thread, wanna just voice my thoughts.
Can't there be some way (GWN, Bug, some general-purpose IRC channel
etc.) on which users could at least be informed that work is under way
to release 2007.0, with some kind of feedback.
Releng could just choose to ignore it at all,
Petteri Räty wrote:
We should link this info to the devmanual.
Yeah that was v. instructive. Since there's only 3 ebuilds left with the old
syntax, the obvious question is: is there anything else holding up impl of
the GLEP?
Also, would the preferred syntax be open to usage in eg recommended
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:34:00 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Yes ... upstream moved to SVN right around the first of the year. If you
want, I'll file something in bugzilla to get the details for Ruby 1.9
into Portage as an enhancement. Most of my Rubyist friends go right to
the source
Doug Goldstein wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Tenorman_Must_Die
I say we never piss Chris off again... ever...
Thank YOU! That was hilarious!
But seriously.. why don't you guys switch off reply-to munging, already?!
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_120444.xml
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Rumen Yotov wrote:
Somebody might want to know (for a new install) for how long
(eventually) he/she will have to wait.
You do not have to wait for the gentoo release engineering team. You will
get an up to date install after running emerge -uvaD system in your fresh
system.
If the livecd is
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Steve Long wrote:
Petteri Räty wrote:
We should link this info to the devmanual.
Yeah that was v. instructive. Since there's only 3 ebuilds left with the old
syntax, the obvious question is: is there anything else holding up impl of
the GLEP?
There is no company behind dotProject.
Instead you are dealing with a dedicated but 100% volunteer group who give
their time and energy freely and frequently above and beyond the call of
duty.
The development team behind, under, in front of and frequently buried by
dotProject are a great bunch
On 14/04/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Can I ask why you choose to enlighten the mailing list with your views
on this matter?
I was given to understand it was a *development* mailing list, not a
talk trash about someone 'cuz they banned me from their channel
mailing list.
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve Long wrote:
Fabian Groffen wrote:
This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps dir.
I nearly forgot about it. Anyway, feedback is appreciated.
list-admin-hat
Grobian: can you please resend your message to the list?
This
On 14-04-2007 01:19:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve Long wrote:
Fabian Groffen wrote:
This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps dir.
I nearly forgot about it. Anyway, feedback is appreciated.
list-admin-hat
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:14:48 +0200:
Adding more build time, requirements (yes, there are some tests that
needs more ram and cpu to complete than the actual build phase) w/out
ways to opt out is just hindering our users.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
* src_test always called except if RESTRICT=test
I don't think this would fit into EAPI, to me it's an implementation
detail of the package manager, or why should the ebuild care about it?
It's the best way of ensuring that ebuilds have a working src_test.
Arch teams
not having it tested.
That all depends. If having it tested means that it _will_ work, I'd be
infavour of that.
Well, the problem is, that a working test suite does not guarantee a
working program, as well as a failing test suite doesn't necessarily
mean that the program is broken. This
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Apr
2007 23:01:40 -0400:
they realize they have no way at all of disabling the mandatory test ...
RESTRICT is an ebuild variable, not a package manager variable
this is why implementing it via the profile
Alec Warner napsal(a):
Any arch team that wants tests by default on their arch can just add
test to FEATURES in their arch profiles; magically the users running
that arch will get the tests run (with USE=test set) by default. Users
who don't want tests can always turn them off in make.conf.
Jakub Moc wrote:
Alec Warner napsal(a):
Any arch team that wants tests by default on their arch can just add
test to FEATURES in their arch profiles; magically the users running
that arch will get the tests run (with USE=test set) by default. Users
who don't want tests can always turn them
Jan Kundrát napsal(a):
Jakub Moc wrote:
Even such change would piss off users. Having *no* way to turn off
tests, uuuhhh please retire me *before* someone implements this, I'm not
going to waste my time on totally pointless bugs filed by furious users.
FEATURES=-test?
... wouldn't do
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Thomas Scharl (also known as
think4urs11), our latest addition joining the forum moderators.
Thomas is joining us from Nürnberg (or Nuremberg), Germany, where he's
currently working for an unnamed Networking/Security company.
Please welcome Thomas as a
Matthias Langer wrote:
Hmm, as an arch tester, i completely agree that packages where src_test
fails are an annoyance. However, I would not suggest to activate
src_test by default, as for normal users, it just introduces another
source of potential defects, without that much benefits. Instead,
On Samstag, 14. April 2007, Christian Heim wrote:
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Thomas Scharl (also known as
think4urs11), our latest addition joining the forum moderators.
Thomas is joining us from Nürnberg (or Nuremberg), Germany, where he's
currently working for an unnamed
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-04-2007 01:19:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve Long wrote:
Fabian Groffen wrote:
This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps
dir. I nearly forgot about it.
Steve Long kirjoitti:
That makes a lot of sense. How about exending it a tiny bit and asking for
it to be policy for all ebuilds EAPI=1 not to be allowed into stable
without RESTRICT=test, or a functional test suite on the arch in question?
The last bit would be automagically checked by the
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:47:12AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
Because I don't have it either, luckily there is GMane:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48017
ive found hooking up my NNTP client to GMane and downloading missed e-mails
from there works quite well
if only i
Hi.
Christian Heim wrote:
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Thomas Scharl (also known as
think4urs11), our latest addition joining the forum moderators.
Thomas is joining us from Nürnberg (or Nuremberg), Germany, where he's
currently working for an unnamed Networking/Security
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 01:01:38PM +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
Congrats on getting the official Gentoo colors! That means you have no
more excuse to slacking ;)
Unless of course you become forums admin, which is the best slacker
job ever. Having that said i'm going back to the pool
About time! :)
Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 01:01:38PM +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
Congrats on getting the official Gentoo colors! That means you have no
more excuse to slacking ;)
Unless of course you become forums admin, which is the best slacker
job ever.
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:44:31 -0700
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any arch team that wants tests by default on their arch can just add
test to FEATURES in their arch profiles; magically the users running
that arch will get the tests run (with USE=test set) by default.
Users who don't
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:43:39 +0100
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no company behind dotProject.
What on earth are you on about? Please stop posting uninformed nonsense
to the list. The noise is getting in the way of sensible discussion.
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It's my pleasure to introduce to you Tobias Heinlein (also known as keytoaster
on IRC), our latest addition joining the docs people as follow-up lead for
the german documetation. He's already been an arch tester for the amd64 herd
for quite some time.
Tobias is joining us from Hamm, Germany
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 14:58 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
Steve Long kirjoitti:
That makes a lot of sense. How about exending it a tiny bit and asking for
it to be policy for all ebuilds EAPI=1 not to be allowed into stable
without RESTRICT=test, or a functional test suite on the arch in
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:44:31 -0700
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any arch team that wants tests by default on their arch can just add
test to FEATURES in their arch profiles; magically the users running
that arch will get the tests run (with USE=test set) by
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:14:18 +0200
Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Tobias Heinlein (also known as
keytoaster on IRC), our latest addition joining the docs people as
follow-up lead for the german documetation. He's already been an arch
tester for
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:17:24 -0700
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole argument against doing it the other way is that running
tests, outside of RESTRICT, has absolutly nothing to do with any kind
of api; which is why I'm against it. At that point arch teams would
essentially be
p
Before you can mentor anyone, you must have been with Gentoo for at
least six
-months or must be a project lead.
+months. Previously being a project lead was enough too but with GLEP 39
anyone
+can create new projects.
/p
/body
Regards,
Petteri
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Christian Heim wrote:
Tobias is joining us from Hamm, Germany where he's currently finishing the
junior high school.
Wow he must be really young then. But I cannot find the adequate german
translation for junior high school. What is it?
Welcome to the devs!
-Stefan
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Hi.
Petteri Räty wrote:
p
Before you can mentor anyone, you must have been with Gentoo for at
least six
-months or must be a project lead.
+months. Previously being a project lead was enough too but with GLEP 39
anyone
+can create new projects.
/p
/body
Regards,
Petteri
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Wow he must be really young then.
Yup, I'm 16, phreak was shocked as well.
But I cannot find the adequate german
translation for junior high school. What is it?
That should be Realschule in German. ;)
Welcome to the devs!
-Stefan
Thanks.
Best regards,
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On 07/04/07, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
klive isn't that useful and I don't have enough time to maintain it.
There are several bugs kicking about.
If nobody takes over, I'll package.mask it on April 14th and remove it
on April 28th.
I've fixed both bugs and added myself explicitly
On 15/04/07, Tobias Heinlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Yup, I'm 16, phreak was shocked as well.
Welcome to the young ones :)
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A modified version of app-vim/doxygen-syntax-1.15 is already included in
vim7, no point in keeping this around. See Bug #174637. Scheduled for
removal in 30 days.
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Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have different
types of developers amongst us, so how do we count the 6 months
period? Let me explain more fully. At this point, I could mentor
someone into becoming a new moderator in the forums, but I
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On Saturday 14 April 2007, Matthias Langer wrote:
bug 165085
i'd do some research into the glibc situation before you go pointing at it
-mike
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