It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like ebuild:${user's own INSTALL_MASK}
This would be very helpful in
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, ...
What is the intended goal? Can you give an example?
Ebuilds can already clean out their own image during install; as for
installing an
On 03/01/2014 12:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like ebuild:${user's
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like
On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
On 28/02/14 16:18, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, ...
What is the intended goal? Can you give an example?
- User has INSTALL_MASK=/lib/systemd
-
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Samuli Suominen:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from
an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured
like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d So
INSTALL_MASK_ORDER
On 28/02/14 16:59, hasufell wrote:
Samuli Suominen:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from
an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be configured
like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d So
INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like
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On 28/02/14 09:59 AM, hasufell wrote:
Samuli Suominen:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from
an ebuild, if user hasn't set otherwise. So it could be
configured like USE_ORDER which is
On 02/28/2014 08:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like ebuild:${user's own
On 28/02/14 17:24, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
On 02/28/2014 08:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I completely agree using INSTALL_MASK is 100% responsibility of the user
setting it, it's like blind 'rm -f', but some people
don't agree and keep attacking me.
I'm using the word attacking because it's constant,
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Samuli Suominen:
On 28/02/14 13:15, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 02/27/2014 09:08 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm putting the call out there for any agenda items for the
next Council meeting, which will be held on March 11, 2014 at
Hi,
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is have
portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are excluded from
the system on merge time due to the INSTALL_MASK. At least that
way, users would be able to see in the log what files were removed,
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On 28/02/14 11:17 AM, Thomas D. wrote:
Hi,
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is have
portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are excluded
from the system on merge time due to the
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Ian Stakenvicius:
On 28/02/14 11:17 AM, Thomas D. wrote:
Hi,
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
That said, what we could do (if this isn't done already) is
have portage automatically elog or ewarn what files are
excluded from the system on merge time
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured
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On 28/02/14 12:01 PM, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
You should stop attacking people. Period.
Once you stop trying to make things worse in Gentoo I will
consider stopping my attacks... so it's
On 28/02/14 19:01, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Despite that... the answer is already here:
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/filesystem/index.html
Gentoo does not consider the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard to be an
authoritative standard, although much of our
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 03:59:35PM +, hasufell wrote:
*snip*
Despite that... the answer is already here:
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/filesystem/index.html
Gentoo does not consider the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard to be an
authoritative standard, although much of our
William Hubbs wrote:
The reason the split happened is pretty straight forward, and every other
justification for continuing it was come up with after the fact.
I keep hearing this, but I really don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure
you'll find lots of things in your life that you use for
hasufell posted on Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:33:43 + as excerpted:
I remember a bug report where some user was messing with INSTALL_MASK
and /usr/share/locale/ and didn't notice that he effectively removed
all language support... and started filing random bug reports. Took
quite a while before
Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 15:28:30
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:57:15PM +, David Leverton wrote:
William Hubbs wrote:
The reason the split happened is pretty straight forward, and every other
justification for continuing it was come up with after the fact.
I keep hearing this, but I really don't see how it's relevant.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:03 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:57:15PM +, David Leverton wrote:
William Hubbs wrote:
The reason the split happened is pretty straight forward, and every other
justification for continuing it was come up with after
William Hubbs wrote:
And I would argue that the maintenance cost of having separate /usr in a
general sense is much higher than the benefit it provides.
That's a legitimate point (not that I necessarily agree or disagree as
I'm not the one who's tried to make it work) - perhaps I should have
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 12:24:02AM +, David Leverton wrote:
William Hubbs wrote:
And I would argue that the maintenance cost of having separate /usr in a
general sense is much higher than the benefit it provides.
That's a legitimate point (not that I necessarily agree or disagree as
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 10:31 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
I think using INSTALL_MASK to kill a few inodes that probably don't
even have extents using a sledgehammer to kill a fly, and if you put
some holes in your walls in the process I_TOLD_YOU_SO. However, I
won't tell people they can't do
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Steev Klimaszewski st...@gentoo.org wrote:
Please keep in mind that not every device that runs Gentoo has the
ability to just pop new storage in with more space. The Beaglebone
Black has 2GB eMMC.
Hence the reason I suggested that embedded systems are a
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:09:08PM -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
I'm not exactly a fan of systemd, though I know it has some uses, and
I'm still curious as to why it installs/stores *configuration* data
in /lib - if only from an upgrade point of view, we back up /etc, we
back up /home - now
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 19:32 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:09:08PM -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
I'm not exactly a fan of systemd, though I know it has some uses, and
I'm still curious as to why it installs/stores *configuration* data
in /lib - if only from an
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Steev Klimaszewski st...@gentoo.org wrote:
The way that it's been presented throughout this thread made it seem
like the network configurations when using e.g. networkd were being
stored in there.
So, with the new udev what I gather is:
1. Config settings (the
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Patrick thinks that all configuration files belong in /etc, and what has
happened is, some packages are placing default configuration
files in /lib or /usr/lib and allowing them to be overridden by files
with the exact
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On 12/31/2013 06:43 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Am Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2013, 23:30:14 schrieb Mike Gilbert:
I have noticed that the arch profile directories (profiles/arch/$ARCH)
are not EAPI 5 capable. These profiles are inherited by both the
On 02/28/2014 8:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if INSTALL_MASK could be overriden from an
ebuild, if user hasn't
set otherwise.
So it could be configured like USE_ORDER which is
env:pkg:conf:defaults:pkginternal:repo:env.d
So INSTALL_MASK_ORDER like ebuild:${user's
On 02/28/2014 6:14 PM, Duncan wrote:
hasufell posted on Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:33:43 + as excerpted:
I remember a bug report where some user was messing with INSTALL_MASK
and /usr/share/locale/ and didn't notice that he effectively removed
all language support... and started filing random
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:06:36PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Steev Klimaszewski st...@gentoo.org wrote:
The way that it's been presented throughout this thread made it seem
like the network configurations when using e.g. networkd were being
stored in there.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Wyatt Epp wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Patrick thinks that all configuration files belong in /etc, and what has
happened is, some packages are placing default configuration
files in /lib or
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 19:18 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 28/02/14 19:01, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 16:41:23 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 28/02/14 16:41, Lars Wendler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:28:30 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote:
It would be very helpful if
On 02/28/2014 7:47 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 12:24:02AM +, David Leverton wrote:
William Hubbs wrote:
And I would argue that the maintenance cost of having separate /usr in a
general sense is much higher than the benefit it provides.
That's a legitimate point (not
On 01/03/14 02:18, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:03 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:57:15PM +, David Leverton wrote:
William Hubbs wrote:
The reason the split happened is pretty straight forward, and every other
justification for
On 01/03/14 04:55, Joshua Kinard wrote:
3. Some profiles also override INSTALL_MASK, such as Gentoo/FreeBSD, because
systemd does not apply there.
Wow. I don't think we should allow this without first having exactly
what was suggested in this thread, a way of redefining the order
away from
On 03/01/2014 12:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 01/03/14 04:55, Joshua Kinard wrote:
3. Some profiles also override INSTALL_MASK, such as Gentoo/FreeBSD, because
systemd does not apply there.
Wow. I don't think we should allow this without first having exactly
what was suggested in this
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 07:20:24AM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
If only Portage had supported checking if files from /usr were used by
files installed to /
Hard to create check for every case, but something like libraries and NEEDED
entries (bug 443590) would have been a start
But there
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Wyatt Epp wrote:
But let's be real here: if I install something and
want to configure its system-wide bits, the first place I go is ALWAYS
/etc. When I don't find it there, with the
On 01/03/14 08:40, Steven J. Long wrote:
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 07:20:24AM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
If only Portage had supported checking if files from /usr were used by
files installed to /
Hard to create check for every case, but something like libraries and NEEDED
entries (bug
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