Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 08∶48 +0300, użytkownik Eray Aslan napisał: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers and > > whitelisted additional participants. > > This is so contrary to what I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner napisał: > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: > > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement > > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. > > > > These changes affect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread David Seifert
On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers > > > and > > > whitelisted additional pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 10:53:39 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > > I guess you should have voiced your opinion back when discussion was > taking place instead of being hostile *now* because the Council listened > to what the developers requested. > > And if you are curious, then I've been asked

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-libs/libFuzzer

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
# Michał Górny (10 Jan 2018) # The Fuzzer library is now installed as part of core LLVM. That's # sys-devel/llvm in LLVM 5, and sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers # in LLVM 6 and newer. The separate ebuild was never approved by LLVM # maintainers or actually maintained, and is obsolete for a long tim

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: net-misc/openssh/

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 08∶35 +, użytkownik Mike Frysinger napisał: > commit: e65003579e31be4ff949cfa66df2511ecd4c44a0 > Author: Mike Frysinger gentoo org> > AuthorDate: Wed Jan 10 08:28:35 2018 + > Commit: Mike Frysinger gentoo org> > CommitDate: Wed Jan 10 08:34:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: net-misc/openssh/

2018-01-10 Thread Ian Whyman
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, at 12:52 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 08∶35 +, użytkownik Mike Frysinger > napisał: > > commit: e65003579e31be4ff949cfa66df2511ecd4c44a0 > > Author: Mike Frysinger gentoo org> > > AuthorDate: Wed Jan 10 08:28:35 2018 + > > Commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: net-misc/openssh/

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 13∶26 +, użytkownik Ian Whyman napisał: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, at 12:52 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 08∶35 +, użytkownik Mike Frysinger > > napisał: > > > commit: e65003579e31be4ff949cfa66df2511ecd4c44a0 > > > Author:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread kuzetsa
On 01/10/2018 05:57 AM, David Seifert wrote: > On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] introduce Prefix 17.0 profiles.

2018-01-10 Thread kuzetsa
On 01/09/2018 08:21 AM, Aaron Bauman wrote: > > On January 8, 2018 9:39:47 PM EST, Benda Xu wrote: >> Hi kuzetsa, >> >> kuzetsa writes: >> >>> The term "beyond" feels wrong & confusing. >>> (Not sure what to replace it with though) >> How about this? >> >> default/linux/amd64/17.0/no-multilib/pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] introduce Prefix 17.0 profiles.

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 14:00, kuzetsa wrote: > On 01/09/2018 08:21 AM, Aaron Bauman wrote: >> On January 8, 2018 9:39:47 PM EST, Benda Xu wrote: >>> Hi kuzetsa, >>> >>> kuzetsa writes: >>> The term "beyond" feels wrong & confusing. (Not sure what to replace it with though) >>> How about this? >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 13:49, kuzetsa wrote: > On 01/10/2018 05:57 AM, David Seifert wrote: >> On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > * Posting to the lis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Alexander Berntsen
On 10/01/18 08:55, Lars Wendler wrote: > Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something... Gentoo has already had the reputation of being an elitist club for years. As such I'd like to see steps to remedy this status, rather than taking steps like this, which just exacerbates the unfortunat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 14:55, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 10/01/18 08:55, Lars Wendler wrote: >> Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something... > Gentoo has already had the reputation of being an elitist club for > years. As such I'd like to see steps to remedy this status, rather than > taking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread kuzetsa
On 01/10/2018 09:55 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 10/01/18 08:55, Lars Wendler wrote: >> Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something... > Gentoo has already had the reputation of being an elitist club for > years. As such I'd like to see steps to remedy this status, rather than > ta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel >> wrote: >> > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement >> > changes to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : Last I checked, Gentoo was a Linux distribution. However, some people prefer to turn it into open discussion forum that has nothing to do with making a distribution. No it has. Giving power to a subset of users, denying interaction with future contr

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:19:24PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: *snip* > Ultimately, it's not safe to chown/chmod/setfacl/whatever in a directory > that is not writable only by yourself and root. Let me try to phrase this another way. If the directory we are in is not owned by us or root and

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/10/2018 02:19 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/09/2018 07:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote >> >> However, I'm not sure how to deal with the hard link issue in a way that >> will not break service scripts. >> > > Systemd mitigates this by enabling the fs.protected_hardlinks sysctl by > default,

[gentoo-dev] Last-rites: dev-perl/SVN-Simple

2018-01-10 Thread Kent Fredric
# Kent Fredric (10 Jan 2018) # Dead upstream, Broken since 2009. # Bug #644146. Removal in 30 days dev-perl/SVN-Simple pgp1f0Hmg13QE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
Please review. Title: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change Author: Aaron W. Swenson Posted: 2018-01-11 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Installed: >=app-office/gnucash-2.7.0 Along with changes to updates to use modern libraries, GnuCash 2.7+ has changed the schema [1] it uses for both databa

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/10/2018 07:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > It is imperative that you back up any files or databases that GnuCash > uses in case you run into an issue with 2.7+ and want or need to revert > back to 2.6. This seems to imply that upgrading from 2.6 to 2.7+ does not require any changes / auto-u

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/10/2018 07:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > Display-If-Installed: >=app-office/gnucash-2.7.0 And we might want to display it before users actually upgrades if it is for backing up an auto migrated change? Since it doesn't require user changes I'm not entirely sure news item is correct appro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner napisał: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > > napisał: > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > > > wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:35:52 +0100 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/10/2018 07:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > > Display-If-Installed: >=app-office/gnucash-2.7.0 > > And we might want to display it before users actually upgrades if it > is for backing up an auto migrated change? Yes, this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > > > napisał: > > > > On T

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Volkov
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > Title: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change > Aaron, but why do we need this news item? 2.7 version is a development version that is not supposed to be used by end users. As far as I understand this backup is a temporary measure until stable rel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 18∶16 +0100, użytkownik Vincent-Xavier JUMEL napisał: > Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : > > Last I checked, Gentoo was a Linux distribution. However, some people > > prefer to turn it into open discussion forum that has nothing to do > > with > > maki

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 14∶31 -0500, użytkownik Alec Warner napisał: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > > napisał: > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > W dniu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2018 22:20:56 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on > gentoo-dev, > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her to > forward your message, > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you w

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/10/2018 01:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:19:24PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> Ultimately, it's not safe to chown/chmod/setfacl/whatever in a directory >> that is not writable only by yourself and root. > > Let me try to phrase this another way. > > If the

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 22:38 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson org> wrote: > > Title: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change > > Aaron, but why do we need this news item? 2.7 version is a > development version that is not supposed to be used by end users. As > fa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 19:31, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 10/01/18 19:31, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner >> napisał: >> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny >> wro

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2018-01-10 22:38, Peter Volkov wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson > wrote: > > > Title: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change > > > > Aaron, but why do we need this news item? 2.7 version is a development > version that is not supposed to be used by end users. As far as I > und

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2018-01-10 19:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:35:52 +0100 > Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 01/10/2018 07:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > > > Display-If-Installed: >=app-office/gnucash-2.7.0 > > > > And we might want to display it before users actually upgrades if it

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 03:25:55PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/10/2018 01:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:19:24PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > >> Ultimately, it's not safe to chown/chmod/setfacl/whatever in a directory > >> that is not writable only by

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:07:41 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > please take a look at the following issue. > > https://github.com/openrc/openrc/issues/195 > > The first part of the fix is committed to master as shown on the issue; > checkpath should *never* follow symbolic links when changin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2018.01.09 21:20, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: [snip] > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour against > the > Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting > permission. > [snip] > -- > Andreas K. Hüttel > dilfri...@gentoo.org > Gentoo Linux developer > (c

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2018-01-10 19:33, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/10/2018 07:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > > It is imperative that you back up any files or databases that GnuCash > > uses in case you run into an issue with 2.7+ and want or need to revert > > back to 2.6. > > This seems to imply that up

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
Modified a bit. This should show for anyone who has GnuCash installed. The 2.7.3 ebuild I have in my overlay does have a postinst note about this as well, but I think this is important enough to tell them as soon as possible and on systems that may never have had GnuCash installed but will be work

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:48:32 -0500 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > Modified a bit. This should show for anyone who has GnuCash installed. For anyone who has any version of GnuCash installed, either now or at any point in the future. (See the recent thread on expiring news items...) Are you sure you d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: > > Being somwhat old and cynical, I'm seeing signs of history > repeating itself. > > Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to devs, including > Council and comrel members? > It would seem that this question is already answered: ht

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 23:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: >> Being somwhat old and cynical, I'm seeing signs of history >> repeating itself. >> >> Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to devs, including >> Council and comrel members? >> > It would s

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/10/2018 05:18 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > The init script used to call chown/chmod -R, which is > obviously bad. I've compromised by only calling these on the > directories themselves (ignoring symlinks). I believe this is safe > because it's not possible to create hard linked directories

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:27 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 10/01/18 23:20, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: >>> Being somwhat old and cynical, I'm seeing signs of history >>> repeating itself. >>> >>> Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/01/18 23:35, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:27 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > >> I think Roy's point is quite valid .. if you want to cut out users from >> contribution why are you even posting on -dev ML in the first place? > Probably because we don't want to cut out users from

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2018-01-10 22:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:48:32 -0500 > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > Modified a bit. This should show for anyone who has GnuCash installed. > > For anyone who has any version of GnuCash installed, either now or at > any point in the future. (See the rec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to devs, including > Council and comrel members? So far noone has even considered "striking" devs off the list. If this even were to happen ever, it would have to be backed by a full comrel team decision / vote. And these don't happen often, d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 18:16:33 CET schrieb Vincent-Xavier JUMEL: > Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : > > Last I checked, Gentoo was a Linux distribution. However, some people > > prefer to turn it into open discussion forum that has nothing to do > > with > > making a distribution

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] introduce Prefix 17.0 profiles.

2018-01-10 Thread Benda Xu
Hi MJ, "M. J. Everitt" writes: > Not entirely as a #gentoo-nit-pick .. I'm slightly unclear on the > different between 2.6.16+ and 2.6.32+ .. should this potentially be > 2.16.16-32 perhaps [2.6.16~32 even] or is this more obvious only to me, > and more confusing to others 2.6.16+ means tha

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Benda Xu
Hi, "Andreas K. Huettel" writes: > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on > gentoo-dev, > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her to > forward your message, With this item in mind, shall we set the default "Reply-To:" to the author ins

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] profiles.desc: Reduce the status of most exp profiles to dev

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
Given the new semantic meaning of profile statuses, reduce most of the current exp profiles that are known or likely to have broken depgraph to dev status. Those profiles will be moved one-by-one back to exp once the integrity of their depgraph is confirmed. --- profiles/profiles.desc | 248 ++

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/2] profiles.desc: Move known-good amd64 profiles to exp

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
--- profiles/profiles.desc | 14 +++--- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/profiles/profiles.desc b/profiles/profiles.desc index b929cb89e109..44709983f9e3 100644 --- a/profiles/profiles.desc +++ b/profiles/profiles.desc @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ alpha default/

[gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Duncan
Andreas K. Huettel posted on Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:12:47 +0100 as excerpted: > Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 18:16:33 CET schrieb Vincent-Xavier JUMEL: >> Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : >> > Last I checked, Gentoo was a Linux distribution. However, some people >> > prefer to turn it int

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Andreas K. Huettel posted on Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:12:47 +0100 as excerpted: > >> Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 18:16:33 CET schrieb Vincent-Xavier JUMEL: >>> Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : >>> > Last I checked, Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] profiles.desc: Reduce the status of most exp profiles to dev

2018-01-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Michał Górny wrote: > Given the new semantic meaning of profile statuses, Huh? Have I missed something? Please provide a pointer to the discussion. > reduce most of the current exp profiles that are known or likely to > have broken depgraph to dev status. Those profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Eray Aslan
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 08:55:11AM +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: > Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something... Elitist seems too kind a word. Knee-jerk reaction, petty vendetta, impulsive emotional reaction comes to mind - instead of articulating and implementing a vision for the distr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] profiles.desc: Reduce the status of most exp profiles to dev

2018-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 11 stycznia 2018 07:07:30 CET, Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Given the new semantic meaning of profile statuses, > >Huh? Have I missed something? Please provide a pointer to the >discussion. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/81af

[gentoo-dev] about stable, dev and exp profile status

2018-01-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 07-01-2018 21:25:28 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > I'd like to follow this with a more precise proposal. Namely, redefine > the current profile statuses to apply the following: > > a. stable -> fully tested, all depgraph breakages are errors, > > b. exp -> fully tested, all depgraph breakages ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] profiles.desc: Reduce the status of most exp profiles to dev

2018-01-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Michał Górny wrote: >> So you're *promoting* the ones considered to be broken from "exp" >> to "dev"? > Please point me to one bit of documentation that says that 'dev' is > better than 'exp' because I haven't been able to find any. Well, > except the fact that PMS list