Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-04 Thread Luca Barbato
fference if that ABI is native or not. cross vs host paths is an annoying problem due the slightly different behaviour between native and cross compiler toolchains, it tends to ignore environment variables and other small differences making dropping an native cross compiler in a qemu chroot, QUI

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-06-30 Thread Luca Barbato
is _really_ annoying for qemu-chroots) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-20 Thread Luca Barbato
succeed either adding to busybox the missing bits of bash we use or forking bash (so eventually it could be developed on a source repo) and making it lean and fast for our specific purposes. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-20 Thread Luca Barbato
y but program that have to run. Think about generators. lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/hfm8ACgkQ6

Re: [gentoo-dev] spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5)

2012-06-19 Thread Luca Barbato
and possibly split RDEPEND/DEPEND to have HDEPEND to list build dependencies that need to be run on host. lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dynamic SLOTs

2012-06-19 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/17/2012 05:39 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > But Python doesn't have one. Bindings built using other > languages don't have that either. That seems something interesting to tackle with the python community. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild laziness and binpkg overhead

2012-06-15 Thread Luca Barbato
the purpose of the xfconf.eclass which is designed so that we > cope with 99,0% using just pkg_setup() defining a function and call it from the eclass would be impossible? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-15 Thread Luca Barbato
nt to try to get serious on 5, we could try to gather the hardened/security people across distributions and setup the whole chain to be parallel and cut deals with OEM to store this trust-chain keys along with MS. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-15 Thread Luca Barbato
they mandate a UI which lists all boot images known to the EFI boot > manager, and the user can easily whitelist both individual loaders and > the keys used to sign them. > That would be a good compromise. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 release candidate

2012-06-06 Thread Luca Barbato
gt; Is there a wiki or forum thread somewhere where folks can gloat and/or >> commiserate? > > i haven't set up anything Shall we start a http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/amd64-x32 page? > -mike - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: git-2.eclass & fetching from multiple repos

2012-05-19 Thread Luca Barbato
What I am afraid of is that we use nested list > with tricky syntax, and one could miss the specifics of "" use. it doesn't look that bad, the result would be getting foo and bar in workdir I guess. for github, sourceforge, bitbucket, gnome, etc, we might use something like gi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: git-2.eclass & fetching from multiple repos

2012-05-19 Thread Luca Barbato
urprising > (not that the fallback syntax isn't surprising already). Does not look that bad, do you have an actual example so we can see how bad could get? lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api

2012-05-15 Thread Luca Barbato
s the systemd in the url might be have people consider it a sort of tell-tale. It could had been http://bluez.org/known_issue/separate-usr-problems Maybe. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-14 Thread Luca Barbato
uite* concerned about this "vertical" and linux-only approach. If you consider that in 2 weeks the whole thing went from "udev moves to systemd since is easier for us, but not be concerned udev can build stand alone" to "udev stand alone is unsupported" you ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
On 04/05/12 17:59, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote: >> On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets >>> called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
How are you going to not use it then? I guess freebsd is still a supported platform for enlightenment and all the programs I use. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for (libre)office extensions: office-ext?

2012-05-06 Thread Luca Barbato
more precise, they should work > with > anything that uses the so-called "uno bridge". > > This is why I like the new category "office-plugins" best... and would like > to > implement that one. > > Any additional objections? I pre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote: > What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets > called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to mdev. That's my idea =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
see how hard is to make that nicer for our non-udev/non-dbus users on linux. lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+kMHwACg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 11:35, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 5/4/12 8:02 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: >> I consider dbus still not reliable for core services. > > Just curious - why? I just have no idea about how dbus works or what are &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
doubt Chrom{e,ium} is losing tons of users due to their udev / > dbus / etc requirements. If dbus and libudev are just for fringe features might be nice disable them. I wonder if there isn't already a setting for it. chrome for android won't use them anyway. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
anything beyond the C library. The integration would be mdev -> shell -> dbus or mdev -> socket -> dbus. I consider dbus still not reliable for core services. > -mike - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-03 Thread Luca Barbato
ormation? I guess would be possible to patch it out, probably dbus would cover that base as well. (As soon I have some time I might dabble with a dbus integration for mdev) lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread Luca Barbato
afe and store the messages somewhere in tmpfs and write them to issue right before giving a shell. lu - -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
ystem in a hard to recover state because you happened to > forget to check a filesystem option (which ironically isn't under Filesystems > in the kernel). it's piss-poor user facing behavior. Many already stated that regarding that version of udev, no reason to restate it a

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
conf's (I thought it was GPLv3, which > would've meant it wasn't compatible)...We'll work on getting those > patches and the pkg.m4 in the tree and getting a 0.2 release rolled > out in the next day or 2. I just sent a couple of patches to pkg-config to update the m4 with some additional macros to provide stock --with-foo, I guess they will be useful for you as well, if you import it before I can send you the same patchset. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
hould not have huge deps and that assumption fails for a number of reasons, I guess mostly due the fact who writes some software doesn't expect it to be run on early boot =\ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
rested in), but there is > also > "pkg-config-lite" and "pkgconf". they should be compatible with the > canonical > pkg-config. they aren't yet in the tree, but will be once we agree on this > topic. > > any comments ? Please do now =) lu - --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
it is either fix the programs or find replacement that have less or no dependencies. > Did someone mentioned mentioning two cross-linked program/data trees > (well, three or four in our case) with fuzzy classification rules is > against KISS? Enumerate them, I'm sick of vague problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-28 Thread Luca Barbato
orked > on (see [1]), I feel that the statement above that newer udev can't be > stabled should be re-evaluated. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect git repo

2012-04-28 Thread Luca Barbato
the >> all-clear. > > To the best of my knowledge, the repo should be fixed now. Please note > that the history has changed. So either do a fresh git clone or follow > git-rebase(1), section "RECOVERING FROM UPSTREAM REBASE". > Thank you a lot =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python

2012-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/25/12 11:56 AM, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: On 28/02/12 22:13, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: If there are no objections then during the weekend (March 3, 4) I will add this to portage (after finishing remaining TODO items, PyPy requires 4G of RAM(!!)). Hello, Slightly late due to Real Life™ but fi

[gentoo-dev] Supporting GLES-only implementations

2012-03-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Provided with the eselect opengl patch an implementation and the mesa changes. If they are ok for everybody I'd change the ati and nvidia drivers as well. (a better name for the amd-graphics driver would be welcome btw) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] opengl: support gles only implementation

2012-03-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Additionally make switching headers and libraries work for GLES OpenVG and EGL. --- modules/opengl.eselect | 30 ++ 1 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) diff --git a/modules/opengl.eselect b/modules/opengl.eselect index 2e8dd23..3f55ed5 100644 --- a/mod

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GSoC2012] Cross Container Support Project

2012-03-24 Thread Luca Barbato
he paths and have the bind-mount game working, the alternative way is to build the native part by unpacking the cross packages and the build system packages there so / <- emulated /etc/ld.so.conf.d/native /usr/${nativehost}/ /usr/${emulatedhost}/ and then you need to trick portage a bit Sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-video/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-0.10.2.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-03-20 Thread Luca Barbato
aviocat, graph2dot ismindex, qt-faststart and cws2fws under either a single useflag or unconditionally. The rest of the tools aren't of any use since avprobe superceeds them. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] Fix spurious dep to eselect-python

2012-03-19 Thread Luca Barbato
Hi, I tried to avoid depending on eselect-python if the useflag is disabled. Please test and review. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero --- /usr/portage/eclass/python.eclass 2012-03-06 20:31:12.0 -0800 +++ /var/tmp/python.eclass 2012-03-19 21:24

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!

2012-03-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/14/12 10:59 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: Well, anybody is welcome to create any replacement/addition for (/usr)/sbin/init or (/usr)/sbin/rc that they wish. If you make it good enough, perhaps others will even use it. There is a SoC out there for that. Beyond that, anything else is just a sug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!

2012-03-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/14/12 4:37 PM, Greg KH wrote: Not really, I don't think we support systems without udev anymore, right? And we get away with a lot of these different "options" at compile time, which makes it easier than what Debian has to handle, so perhaps it's not a fair comparison. I think we support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!

2012-03-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/14/12 10:58 AM, Matthew Summers wrote: __Everyone__ is already using an initramfs, therefore there are no initramfs-less systems anymore (it may just be empty). Every single person reading this thread that has not already done so needs to immediately go read the relevant documentation locat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]

2012-03-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/12/12 8:53 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:14:23PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: Yeah, I think it's an easy fix either in openrc or in an initscript somewhere. I changed nothing except my kernel (was missing devtmpfs -- it's not under Filesystems!), uninstalled module-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/11/12 10:33 AM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 07:28:41PM -0800, Luca Barbato wrote: On 3/10/12 6:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: neither the genkernel nor dracut docs have specific instructions about I guess we could pour more effort in getting dracut more easy to use and/or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/10/12 7:50 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Well, I'm trying not to take sides in that war. Unless we want to patch the living daylights out of upsteam it seems almost moot. It is not a matter about siding. If our boot process requires glib or dbus we are sore idiots if we aren't either of them a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 3/10/12 6:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: neither the genkernel nor dracut docs have specific instructions about I guess we could pour more effort in getting dracut more easy to use and/or try to figure out which are the items that should be moved to / and fix the remaining ones... lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Supporting GLES-only implementations

2012-03-04 Thread Luca Barbato
On 03/03/12 18:26, Luca Barbato wrote: > I'm trying to get better support for efika and possibly other similar > systems like pandaboard. In order to make all the headers switchable I'd move the headers to specific dirs, so we would have global/GL and all the implementations

[gentoo-dev] Supporting GLES-only implementations

2012-03-03 Thread Luca Barbato
tter ideas? lu PS: I'd consider GL implementations monolithic so you cannot mix and match them at least for now. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] qemu/qemu-user changes

2012-02-28 Thread Luca Barbato
On 28/02/12 13:03, Martin Gysel wrote: > Am 28.02.2012 11:51, schrieb Luca Barbato: >> I'd add a new ebuild for qemu-user that is always static, with a >> initscript to ease having the binfmt set up, it will be close >> resembiling the ebuild qemu-user-static from sabayon

[gentoo-dev] qemu/qemu-user changes

2012-02-28 Thread Luca Barbato
be close resembiling the ebuild qemu-user-static from sabayon and not colliding with qemu. Is anybody against to this approach? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] color management in gentoo (kde expecially) proposal for help

2012-02-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 2/23/12 3:47 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote: Hi, my name is Francesco Riosa, I would be interested in a more complete support of the oyranos color managment programs in ::gentoo. Oyranos is intended to be multy platform and in some sense multy os, but in the current incarnation has good support

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml

2012-02-13 Thread Luca Barbato
On 2/11/12 2:00 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I think this is not the first time it's been discussed here, but maybe I'm wrong. Other distros associate a more user-friendly package name (application name) to packages. Say, they bind libreoffice-writer to "LibreOffice Writer" in package metadata. Ho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Time to lastrite compiz AND blender due to lack of maintainer & broken

2011-11-13 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/7/11 3:58 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 11/07/2011 11:57 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno dom, 06/11/2011 alle 19.37 +0200, Samuli Suominen ha scritto: With bug 365121 we don't really have a working compiz in Portage anymore for quite a while. I'm using it with USE=-dbus ... mayb

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] enable verbose build whenever it's possible

2011-11-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/5/11 1:58 AM, Kacper Kowalik wrote: Hi, I'd like to ask that we enable verbose building by default. I have cmake-utils.eclass in mind, because it's dead easy there, but there's a lot of packages that support things like "make V=1" or "make VERBOSE=1" too. I've seen too many bugs reports to

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Luca Barbato
sr so the new and grand udev can do all its stuff... Going around upstream asking to provide init.d files themselves might be useful btw. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr

2011-09-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 9/15/11 1:33 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, September 15, 2011 09:31:45 PM Luca Barbato wrote: On 15/09/2011 16:33, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Hi Devs, Not sure if you are aware of the discussions on the gentoo-user list about the upcoming change where systemd and udev require /usr to

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr

2011-09-15 Thread Luca Barbato
support burden for no gain... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-22 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/20/11 6:54 PM, Mike Pagano wrote: On Friday 20 May 2011 04:58:12 Luca Barbato wrote: On 5/17/11 6:57 PM, William Hubbs wrote: That shouldn't be read as endorsing the peculiar and conceptually broken init replacement called systemd. lu Just curious, would you mind elaborating on

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 5/17/11 6:57 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2]. The issue is that there are at least two packages, udev and dracut, in gentoo, which support the use of this directory. Support for it is being worked on in openrc, and systemd will use it once it

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-23 Thread Luca Barbato
On 03/23/2011 04:17 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > And yep i think we should provide both options if they really continue > to evolve (seems like libav is done by everyone and ffmpeg by vlc guys). VLC is just graciously hosting the git... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-21 Thread Luca Barbato
til there is a proper replacement for this handling, the Gentoo sources archive, we really shouldn't be putting the data in non-permanent locations, the team should, nowadays, be on the same page as me on this." I read it as: before infra was against, now they should be on the same page -> thus agree. my 2 eurocents lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] virtual/openvg virtual/gles virtual/egl

2010-11-07 Thread Luca Barbato
: I'm checking what happens with the xcb move since it should be compatible but it could not. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-06 Thread Luca Barbato
std_shrext .so .a .la; do # Search the libtool library lib="$searchdir/lib${name}${search_ext}" if test -f "$lib"; then lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/5/10 4:33 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:49:43 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: Bluntly put, you seem to not know how libtool exactly works and further down in the thread how linking exactly works. Please try to learn the fine Gentoo docs on the subject and feel free to ask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/5/10 9:52 AM, Angelo Arrifano wrote: By removing .la files, you are taking away that choice from the user. For you they might be useless, for some user (or entire software house) it can be its holly grail for library versioning and linking. I don't really feel like forcing users to change

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
packages. Well I consider the .la sort of legacy byproduct of libtool and not something useful, probably in the future I'll send a patch to have the .la put as last item in search order for both libtool and libltdl to make it a non issue for everybody =P lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/04/2010 12:00 AM, Rémi Cardona wrote: Using libltdl (libtool's dlopen wrapper) is a*legitimate* use of .la files. Those programs do not need to be fixed as they are not broken. To my knowledge ltdl would load just fine the .so if the .la isn't found. lu -- Luca Barbato Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
ed" by checking whether anything currently in the tree needs it, but this doesn't take into account anything that /isn't/ in the tree yet. I think the simpler solution is that if it needs .la, before reaching the tree it has to be fixed... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: .la files removal news item (GLEP 42)

2010-10-03 Thread Luca Barbato
#x27;t an earth shattering change like a nonfunctional libc in the stable tree or a broken version of coreutils, please keep a bit of perspective. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: .la files removal news item (GLEP 42)

2010-10-02 Thread Luca Barbato
d in a way I can understand so that I can address them? During the past discussions you were somehow overly conservative, taking issue of corner cases and overall on the aggressive stance. I know that you had a rough week but others do as well, Diego among them. lu -- Luca Barbato G

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization update

2010-09-20 Thread Luca Barbato
working with iproute2 or any other tool > that i already know the syntax of. no need to learn ridiculously > convoluted array syntax foo for /etc/init.d/net.eth*. if you are using /etc/ifup.eth* what would prevent having oldnet run those as the newnet do? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-26 Thread Luca Barbato
e great ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/23/2010 11:07 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, August 23, 2010 16:21:44 Luca Barbato wrote: >> I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. > > we've sort of already settled into the places ... jumping to another place > doesnt gain us much. current infrastructure

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Luca Barbato
e for all our use-cases, not as stable as openrc nowadays, not as fast as suggested and for server usage plainly wrong. I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] GLes and OpenVG related management

2010-08-22 Thread Luca Barbato
he qt team about it. I'd like to have a gles and an openvg useflag defined to: gles - prefer using egl+opengles instead of glx+opengl openvg - enable openvg support Comments? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: scons.eclass

2010-08-22 Thread Luca Barbato
> Attaching both the new rev and a diff against the first one. What about having a SCONSOPTS and leave MAKEOPTS unmangled? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium in Gentoo project looking for developers

2010-08-17 Thread Luca Barbato
> system libraries (I'm working on icu and sqlite). This will require even > more testing on Gentoo side, because using system libraries is a > scenario that upstream's QA _never_ tests. I see... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/12/2010 08:23 PM, Thilo Bangert wrote: > its a small and neat piece of code. for anybody looking at deploying Why isn't already an official project ^^? It looks quite what we need =P lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] nsbrowser plugins

2010-08-11 Thread Luca Barbato
it isn't that hard even if IMHO it should be declared by env var. lu PS: what about the user defined plugin dir (yes, it does exist)? -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global use flag: vpx or vp8

2010-08-03 Thread Luca Barbato
s more intuitive for people. Also, > nteresting question would be whether to enable the flag by default an in > which profiles (desktop?). vpx -> you use libvpx vp8 -> you want vp8 as for decoding ffmpeg is already a provider so application using it won't need additional useflag IMHO lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
resolve this issue in case ChangeLog's > will be generated from git log and until somebody suggests how to edit > ChangeLogs generated from git I think have to keep ChangeLogs in > gentoo-x86. > We could abuse git-note -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] RESTRICT=parallel for builds that can't be executed in parallel

2010-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
/out calling eselect opengl that way first. The discussion about how to handle two parallel merge in a safer way seems interesting though. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] RESTRICT=parallel for builds that can't be executed in parallel

2010-04-21 Thread Luca Barbato
emerge more reliable. I wonder if that case shouldn't be handled better with an huge ewarn so people concerned would really run it in a benchmark environment, alone. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-04 Thread Luca Barbato
probably instead), poppler-qt3, poppler-qt4 and > poppler-utils. If we could manage to convince poppler upstream that would be nice to actually provide bindings packages aside a core one... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-31 Thread Luca Barbato
ely need for either a better mail client and/or other ways to be more responsive. I think either Patrick or Tomáš could be a good asset for the council in my place. Hopefully in the mean time I'll focus on fixing what make me being slackered out of council and reply this late to your nominati

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenIB stuff in gentoo

2009-12-04 Thread Luca Barbato
ds could fit. > > [1] http://www.openfabrics.org > [2] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/sci.git > -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-03 Thread Luca Barbato
use absolute majority even if it is more strict. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-29

2009-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
he past days even if it wasn't actual code =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND instead of SANE_BACKENDS for media-gfx/sane-backends

2009-06-26 Thread Luca Barbato
Any objections or questions? I think it's a good idea =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raudsepp > (leio), Petteri Räty (betelgeuse), and Luca Barbato (lu_zero) [all of > them are CCed] Patrick Lauer wrote: > * lu_zero, because he's done a good job and brings in his own idea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] USE_EXPAND for qemu unified ebuild

2009-05-16 Thread Luca Barbato
Alexey Shvetsov wrote: its realy a good idea to make targets for qemu selectable =) since not all targets work all time at the same condition. By tomorrow I'm going to push the use_expand changes and the unified qemu ebuild. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Luca Barbato
eting. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] USE_EXPAND for qemu unified ebuild

2009-05-15 Thread Luca Barbato
Luca Barbato wrote: Duncan wrote: Namespace pollution? QEMU_USER_TARGETS and QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS, maybe? Right, anyway either one or two vars, anybody has a strong feeling towards one of them or against any of them? QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS QEMU_USER_TARGETS, that's it. -USE_E

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] USE_EXPAND for qemu unified ebuild

2009-05-11 Thread Luca Barbato
Duncan wrote: Namespace pollution? QEMU_USER_TARGETS and QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS, maybe? Right, anyway either one or two vars, anybody has a strong feeling towards one of them or against any of them? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] USE_EXPAND for qemu unified ebuild

2009-05-11 Thread Luca Barbato
We have a proposed unified qemu ebuild[1] in bugzilla that would let users have a per-target granularity thanks to Xake. I'm not sure if would be better have QEMU_TARGETS or separated USER_TARGETS and SOFTMMU_TARGETS. [1]http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267883 -- Luca Barbato G

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
ng to get done, or you don't, in which case there's no point to branches, and any migration can be done using a simple tag. I'd like you to rethink your statement and then come again. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-24 Thread Luca Barbato
d take too much. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Luca Barbato
x all 'pkg fails tests' bugs in bugzilla first. And the fact some testsuites in system and commonly used libs take from 10x to 100x the buildtime to run. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Regarding live sources management proposals (Was: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for February 26)

2009-02-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:40:26 +0100 Luca Barbato wrote: Be specific. Explain how this works when, say, 0.34.4 is current, you have a 0.34.5_live and 0.34.5 comes out. being live working as substitute for 0.34.5_preN (_live) component the appearance of 0.34.5 will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for February 26

2009-02-26 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:34:07 +0100 Luca Barbato wrote: I'm still waiting for you to answer this: Be specific. Explain how this works when, say, 0.34.4 is current, you have a 0.34.5_live and 0.34.5 comes out. being live working as substitute for 0.34.5_preN (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for February 26

2009-02-26 Thread Luca Barbato
them. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for February 26

2009-02-26 Thread Luca Barbato
much had been said probably because glep-54 has impact to a lesser number of people and thus is less interesting than the all encompassing glep-55. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

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