Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: New build types

2008-03-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: I don't see how it would wreak more havoc than a novice using, eg ANT from Java which s/he is comfortable with, and then further having to learn BASH peculiarities when things don't fit with the eclass. But yeah, the fun is what attracts me to the idea more than anything.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Petteri Räty a écrit : http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a57bf5f459324975bae8843fe7cdf469.xml Sorry I didn't respond to you Petteri, but this is clearly missing packages. For sure, it's missing gnome-games which inherits both the gnome2 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, in the Emacs overlay we imported the bzr.eclass from the xeffects overlay. In the near future Emacs development will switch from CVS to Bazaar and thus we need the new eclass in Portage to still provide our live ebuilds from app-editors/emacs-cvs. Question i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Now, basically, if the portage metadata or QA people could tell me a way to figure *all* the ebuilds that inherit gnome2 *and* have a pkg_preinst() function somewhere (either in the ebuild or in an eclass somewhere) I'd really appreciate it, as I really don't want to r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-gfx/inkscape: ChangeLog inkscape-0.46-r1.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Dawid Węgliński kirjoitti: Sunday, 16 of March 2008 23:58:45 Mart Raudsepp wrote: On P, 2008-03-16 at 23:29 +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:12 +0100 Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not if COPYING file is inside $DOCS and is installed in the loop. Doing somet

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 12:14:39 Petteri Räty wrote: David Leverton kirjoitti: Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the eclass so that ebuilds can be updated now, instead of suddenly all at once as soon as the new eclass is committed? And break a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: This is where I kindly request the help of fellow Gentoo devs and PM developers : - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. I only found two ebuilds to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 07:14:23 Rémi Cardona wrote: - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the

[gentoo-dev] FYI clarifications to skel.ebuild EAPI usage

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
solar reported that he had ebuild submissions blindly using EAPI=1 so we hopefully made the text better reflect that it should not be used unless absolutely needed. Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage $ cvs diff -r 1.44 skel.ebuild Index: skel.ebuild ===

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project btw). Knowing no one here or there, nor any history: Never heard of and you say it's a great project? This conversation reminds me of Human Resources. They always have 'procedures' and 'car

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabio Erculiani kirjoitti: [02:31] lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really sad. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Natanael Copa kirjoitti: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 I'm another di

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl (emerge and try). Here's

[gentoo-dev] New keyword monkey: Kenneth Prug (ken69267)

2008-03-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Joining us from the zoos of Florida, we have Kenneth "kennumbers here>" Prugh. Ken did such a fine job testing all those random packages for amd64 that it will be the sole purpose of his life from now on. He tells me his hobby is to learn new programming languages so I guess he doesn't get bored

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti: Isn't what you wrote the existing policy? If it is, then the last question of the end-quiz should be changed: | 19. You are bumping foomatic's ebuild from version 1.5 to version | 2.0. This new version is a massive rewrite which introduces | huge changes to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:41:12 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: On 01 Mar 2008 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Markus Ullmann kirjoitti: So giving both (devs and users) an automated way of working with that would help a lot IMHO. like the user submits using echangelog "My cool change" repoman submit then the dev gets a diff or whatever against current state and then just does repoman accept or rep

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ricardo Mendoza (ricmm)

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Hailing from the Venezuela, more precisely Caracas, we have Ricardo "ricmm" Mendoza. When he's not fighting in the jungles, he likes to play around with those expensive paper weights that some people call mips computers. Luckily for him he will be soon moving to the comfort of Europe. Now it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: On 01 Mar 2008 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package mainta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a "full.fledged developer" would differ from a "package maintainer" technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius Perhaps there could be some honor code system at least, where the package maintainer w

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Bo Ørsted Andresen (zlin)

2008-02-28 Thread Petteri Räty
He has been breaking the tree for a while now but as Calchan has been having availability problems I get to insult him a little bit later than usual. Bo hails from Aalborg, Denmark. He studies to become a control engineer. On the Gentoo side he is one of the people who enabled KDE4 coming to ou

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:19:55 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, that depends upon whether you want it to be part of the C/P-V metadata... If you do, it's a cache format change (and you can't easily do DEPRECATED_*). But then, deprecation is a property of

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ben de Groot (yngwin)

2008-02-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Another slacker to join the ranks. Took 8 months for him to get the quizes done and reviewed but finally there. He will be working on multimedia ebuilds. Ben hails from Arnemuiden, NL. He should be a familiar nick for many from our IRC channels. As a tip to all of our female readers out there,

Re: [gentoo-dev] clean deprecated eclasses(?)

2008-02-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: May be we should punt them from the tree? Eclasses can't be removed... Maybe we should have a deprecated eclass for showing a common messaged that certain eclasses should not be used. Then deprecated eclasses could be detected by looking if they inherit deprecated.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen kirjoitti: And if you can't run eautoreconf but instead one of specific commands, eautoconf, eautomake.. Or what if you need to run AT_M4DIR="/path/to/macros" eautoreconf? Or when you are about to remove eautoreconf, spot that fbsd is keyworded and need to substitute it with

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Matthias Schwarzott kirjoitti: How can I use PATCHESwithout quoting issues? Attached is a patch that fixes this. Regards, Petteri Index: base.eclass === RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/base.eclass,v retrieving revis

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: The former is much clearer...I don't see the gain... also in the former example you neglected to inherit autotools ;) That would happen conditionally in base.eclass Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: I think it should not be added as it hides something quite important. - it takes a lot of time on most platforms I run - it may break (especially during bootstrapping, eautoreconfs are hell) - it may introduce extra deps/caution (e.g. gettext macros being available) So

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 13-02-2008 08:50:19 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: Petteri Räty a écrit : What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running eautoreconf? In most of the ebuilds where we need to run eautoreconf, we usually apply patches. I can't remember of an e

[gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-12 Thread Petteri Räty
What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running eautoreconf? so instead of src_unpack() { unpack ${A} cd "${A}" eautoreconf } would just add EAUTORECONF="yes" inherit base Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding available as a mentor bit to LDAP

2008-02-11 Thread Petteri Räty
Often we have someone wanting to become a dev and we need a to find a mentor for him. What do you think about adding a status bit to LDAP that would mark you as available for mentoring? Recruiters could then use this info to forward people to these developers. Regards, Petteri signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-servers/orion

2008-02-07 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (08 Feb 2008) +# Masked for removal to java junkyard in 30 days. +# Proprietary software that is not used by anyone +# in the java herd. Unmigrated to generation 2. +# Lagging behind in versions. If you have a need for +# this, please contact the java he

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: VDB access

2008-02-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: Incidentally, if anyone is still thinking that built_with_use is fine... It doesn't handle IUSE defaults, which means package managers have to store a hacked version of IUSE in VDB for EAPI 1. This isn't documented anywhere and is highly unobvious. I don't understan

Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to steal your tools

2008-02-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: So it seems to me that we have tons of tools out there that people have writtten and we need to aggregrate and document them. > https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/scripts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Adding two USE flags to 2008.0's profiles

2008-02-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: Understandable, bluetooth isn't the most mature thing in Linux. It tends to either work or it doesn't. Actually bluetooth support is in quite a good shape. The thing was there was a urgent need to get bluez-utils-3* stable for which I need some doc updates etc b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes to some profiles

2008-02-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: base/packages: removed debianutils I don't think we reached a decision on whether debianutils should go to kernel-2.eclass before this is done. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for a mentor

2008-01-31 Thread Petteri Räty
Iain Buchanan kirjoitti: jsin is a bit busy (and not at 6 months yet) so he can't mentor me, although he still offers help as time permits. I would therefore like to see if anyone wants to volunteer their mentoring prowess to get me to developer status :) I presume no-one has yet contacted I

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BSD, prefix etc. I would say breaking make install is worse than requiring people to keep debianutils installed. They can just use package.provided if they want to get rid of it. ..

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would say drop it from system and add to RDEPEND in kernel-2.eclass for ${ETYPE} == sources. IMHO that's a bad idea - everybody use some kernel sources, but not everybody runs `make install'. I'm for dropping debianutils from system. BSD

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Yuri Vasilevski kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:23:18 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils i

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 04:06:47PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 26-01-2008 17:35:37 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Related to the top level of the tree, can we get a release of repoman that detects if a checkout is a subset only (eg no to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 26-01-2008 17:35:37 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Related to the top level of the tree, can we get a release of repoman that detects if a checkout is a subset only (eg no top level), for folk that have subtree checkouts only? (Probably look for skel.*/profile items

Re: [gentoo-dev] detecting if a file is used or not

2008-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: How could I detect in a init script if a socket file is used or not? I need to be sure I can delete it before starting the service. I would hate to add sys-process/psmisc to RDEPEND just for this (fuser seems to be the only way of doing that). [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/por

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: java-ant-2.eclass

2008-01-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 21:57 Tue 22 Jan , Petteri Raty (betelgeuse) wrote: Revision ChangesPath 1.26 eclass/java-ant-2.eclass file : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/eclass/java-ant-2.eclass?rev=1.26&view=markup plain: http://sources.gentoo.org/v

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/jsx

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Jan 2008) +# Commercial application for which the devs don't have +# licenses. Lagging behind in versions. If you want to +# see this maintained contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for paying +# us a license. Otherwise in junkyard after 30 days. +d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 06:41:44PM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: 2. Trac doesn't scale well enough, as users of the existing overlay machine have noted performance problems before. Being replaced with ViewVC and as yet undecided which Wiki application. Am I rig

[gentoo-dev] Ebuild quiz and staff quiz updated to reflect mailing list changes

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/proj-en/devrel/quiz $ cvs diff Index: ebuild-quiz.txt === RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/quiz/ebuild-quiz.txt,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 ebuild-quiz.txt --- eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2 but

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: В Пнд, 14/01/2008 в 02:10 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very we

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2 but that probably doesn't happen any time soon. R

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-misc/beagle (temporary?) maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Daniel Drake kirjoitti: Hi, I'm the current beagle maintainer but am struggling to find the time needed for the simple maintenance efforts required. Is anyone interested in taking over here? A prospective developer (bheekling) would be interested in maintaining this package in future, but r

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well if you move an existing package to another. unless they had a block in

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well if you move an existing package to another. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Ryan Hill wrote: # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008) # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc # Masked for removal (treecleaner) # Bug #192741 sys-devel/distcc-config Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and subproject status

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti: gcj is not even official maintained by any Gentoo Devs atm. No where near close to being added to tree. Much less in the same overlay as openjdk. Not that it's in bad shape, but there is no syncing or collaboration there. But seems moot, as IcedTea should not req

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and subproject status

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti: No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check, but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects aren't available yet in icedtea. So there is still m

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: i'd argue pretty vehemently against removing openssh from any default official Gentoo install. ssh is defacto standard for loginning into any other machines. it should be on all Gentoo desktops/severs/etc... specialized/embedded/whatever are certainly free to cull

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: - Get the remaining Generation 1 stuff out of the tree (not much left) - Start using virtuals more - Eclass cleanup and new make our setup even more automatic any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love too see it in portage ^^; lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:59:29 -0800 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The issue that was raised is that certain arch teams are incapable of keeping up with the minimal workload they already have and what should be done about it. The issue was raised, with ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Please project leaders try to reply in short. Recruiters About the stuff I'm involved: Are we fine? If Calchan agrees, we are fine. What are we going to do: Keep going as usual. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Here is a list of interesting questions: "Are we fine?" "What are we going to do?" Java Please project leaders try to reply in short. Are we fine? Quite okay. Slowly recruiting new people and doing the usual maintenance. Could always use more active people of cour

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 21:49 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: Stefan Hellermann kirjoitti: I've tried to not use the system-set and set up a virtual called virtual/minimal-system which depends on all the packages I need (no gcc or perl, only coreutils, glibc, basel

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefan Hellermann kirjoitti: I've tried to not use the system-set and set up a virtual called virtual/minimal-system which depends on all the packages I need (no gcc or perl, only coreutils, glibc, baselayout and some packages that are really needed for booting up). This is what I think should

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: Here comes the official proposal, copy and paste from my blog with an extra post scriptum at the end. I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our ebuilds is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying to get this fixed was i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:52:49 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's making the assumption that anyone looked at it, of course. Please note comment #9 on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198346. It was still ~8 days from then that the setuptools k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:35:41 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ypoxyg> is a list of closed security bugs where mips is still cced. 163 is the total number, where surely some duplica

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: length of the DESCRIPTION variable

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: Current devmanual suggest to not use line lengths over 80 characters. http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html I wrote a repoman check that checks that the value doesn't go over 80. This is useful for tools like eix that show the DESCRIPTION

[gentoo-dev] RFC: length of the DESCRIPTION variable

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Current devmanual suggest to not use line lengths over 80 characters. http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html I wrote a repoman check that checks that the value doesn't go over 80. This is useful for tools like eix that show the DESCRIPTION. The thing is that lots of eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: If anyone has any examples of where they really are being held back and where they really have given the arch teams plenty of time to do something, I'd like to see them... Somehow I doubt it happens very often, if at all. Maintainers want that the versions they prov

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:50:56 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Depends on the implementation; for pkgcore, if that comm pipe is dead, the ebuild env *should* be dead, or dieing. Background'ing processes from that env isn't valid imo,

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC available for testing.

2008-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Alon Bar-Lev kirjoitti: > Publish to layman? > Done. layman -a openrc after the web nodes have synced from CVS. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2007-12-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends in parallel? Is > it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends after the ebuild > process has terminated? Discuss. > Do you/anybody know if they are used in parallel in the tree at the moment? Regards, P

[gentoo-dev] Running a script to remove useless deps like virtual/libc from ebuilds

2007-12-30 Thread Petteri Räty
I have a script coming up that can remove virtual/libc dependencies from ebuilds automatically but can this be done safely for all ebuilds are are there ebuilds in system that really need this dep for stage building etc? Are there other deps to like this that could be removed? At least sys-libs/zli

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Packages up for grabs

2007-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Heim kirjoitti: > > As usual you are free to pick them up, if you'd like to maintain them... > > - dev-java/scala-bin java herd takes this Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes

2007-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Piotr Jaroszyński kirjoitti: > This GLEP proposes usage of EAPI-suffixed file extensions for ebuilds (for > example, foo-1.2.3.ebuild-1). It seems many people don't like the idea of having it in the filename but how about having subdirectories for different eapis. This should even be faster for th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Richard Freeman kirjoitti: > > How is having a line that states EAPI=foo in the ebuild any less trivial > than putting a -foo at the end of the filename? If anything the latter > is more typing - since the EAPI=foo line would probably be in skel.ebuild... > EAPI=foo is already in skel.ebuild bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in rox-base/rox: ChangeLog rox-2.7-r2.ebuild

2007-12-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > Icky. > >> chmod 0755 "${D}/usr/bin/${WRAPPERNAME}" >> chmod 0755 "${D}/usr/bin/${WRAPPERNAME}uri" > > fperms? > >> make_desktop_entry ${WRAPPERNAME} ${APPNAME} ${APPNAME}.png >> "System;Utility;Core;ROX" > > Thought I saw something about desktop en

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On 08:29 Thu 20 Dec , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:38:01 -0800 >> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Here's some other ideas for how to express EAPI. What if we: >>> >>> Used EAPI-named subdirectories instead of tagging it into the >>

[gentoo-dev] Adding pkg_preinst to java-utils-2 for QA purposes

2007-12-15 Thread Petteri Räty
I wrote a patch to add pkg_preinst to java-utils-2 to check the jars in the images for problems in the jars but it can later be used for other stuff too. If there are no objections we will need to modify the following ebuilds as not to change their behavior. I will do this in behalf of the maintain

[gentoo-dev] The return of the old fart: Mark Loeser (halcy0n)

2007-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
I have an early Christmas present for all of you. Mark "halcy0n" Loeser is returning to waste all his time on Gentoo development. Perhaps now we will actually have someone to maintain devmanual. For those of you who don't know him, Mark lives in Freehold, NJ, USA. He loves to destroy the environmen

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:08:36 +0100 > "Santiago M. Mola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Would it be possible to have eclass/eapiBLAH/foo.eclass? > > No. Not even with an EAPI change. This is one of the deficiencies in > the way EAPI was designed -- an EAPI cannot change

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Klima kirjoitti: > Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. > I'm starting a new thread. > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/52981/match=eapi I think it was answered. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] scm package version suffix

2007-12-09 Thread Petteri Räty
"Portage versions prior to 2.1.2.12 (included in 2007.0) doesn't handle arbitrary version suffixes" doesn't --> don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass osgi.eclass

2007-12-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Jean-Noël Rivasseau kirjoitti: > > The fact that I use the jar utility to unzip a file, combined with the > fact that jar does not have an option to specify a destination > directory, is troublesome. I have to copy the .jar file to the > destination directory and then remove it. This .jar file can

Re: [gentoo-dev] .desktop file cleanup

2007-12-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: > In celebration of the Finnish Independence Day let's cleanup the > .desktop files we have in the three. > Results: http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/desktop-files/results.txt > Script: http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/desktop-files/baddesktop >

[gentoo-dev] RFC: categorizing RDEPEND to help --newuse

2007-12-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Please comment on my ideas in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201499 Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] .desktop file cleanup

2007-12-06 Thread Petteri Räty
In celebration of the Finnish Independence Day let's cleanup the .desktop files we have in the three. Results: http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/desktop-files/results.txt Script: http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/desktop-files/baddesktop Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass osgi.eclass

2007-12-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Alistair Bush wrote: >> Im sure Elvanor can't wait for you constructive feedback on his eclass >> and depending on your feedback the eclass will enter the tree this >> weekend. >> > A couple of very minor performance points, which I think are more > significant in eclasses.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass osgi.eclass

2007-12-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On 22:26 Wed 05 Dec , Alistair Bush wrote: >> # @ebuild-function _java-pkg_osgi-plugin > > I just picked this one at random, although my question applies to the > whole eclass. Why is everything tagged with a "java-pkg_" prefix? > > Thanks, > Donnie Probably use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes to rox.eclass

2007-11-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Jim Ramsay kirjoitti: > I know I'm the only one who uses this, but thought it would be prudent > to post this here before I actually commit it, in case I'm doing > something obviously wrong, or if you bash maniacs out there can think > of better ways to do things I've done here. > > This is mostly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-process/fcron: ChangeLog fcron-3.0.4.ebuild

2007-11-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Wolfram Schlich kirjoitti: > * Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-09 10:13]: >> On 08:54 Fri 09 Nov , Wolfram Schlich (wschlich) wrote: >>> 1.1 sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.4.ebuild >>> >>> file : >>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-process/fcron/f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch make_desktop_entry to produce entries that validate better

2007-11-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: > Any objections to the attached patch: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ desktop-file-validate > /usr/share/applications/jedit-jedit.desktop > /usr/share/applications/jedit-jedit.desktop: warning: key "Encoding" in > group "Desktop Entry" i

[gentoo-dev] Patch make_desktop_entry to produce entries that validate better

2007-11-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Any objections to the attached patch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/jedit-jedit.desktop /usr/share/applications/jedit-jedit.desktop: warning: key "Encoding" in group "Desktop Entry" is deprecated /usr/share/applications/jedit-jedit.desktop: warning: value "" f

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Justin Bronder (jsbronder)

2007-11-16 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my usual please to announce a new ebuild monkey. Justin hails from Brighton, Massachusetts. His educational background should provide a good theoretical approach to all the future flames on gentoo-dev: "I'm pretty much self taught computer wise as I went to the University of Maine in order to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 21:01 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: >> I plan to make the java eclasses use the EAPI 1 > > Any chance we can *at least* wait until we have a release out the door > that has a portage version which supports these features *before*

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty kirjoitti: >> Usually it's best that ebuild variables follow the order that is in >> skel.ebuild. So know we should decide where to place EAPI. I suggest we >> put it it after LICENSE as that's where the more technical stuff

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