[gentoo-dev] Help needed on maintaining media-gfx/k3d

2013-11-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
media-gfx/k3d is not buildable for a long time in the tree due boost update (also in stable), it also has some important pending bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=k3dlist_id=2093406 Is anyone interested on it to try to solve some of the most important bugs? Thanks a lot

Zac's status (Was: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCHES] Remove --autounmask, rename --autounmask-write to --autounmask)

2013-11-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-11-2013 a las 10:21 +0100, Alexander Berntsen escribió: I sent this to zmedico almost two months ago, but it doesn't look like he's coming back any time soon, so I'm sending it here and ask someone to review and commit it (a role zmedico has typically played for me, as well as being

Re: [gentoo-dev] About preferred ntp provider

2013-11-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 11-11-2013 a las 22:13 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: Reading: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489044 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489040 I don't know what should be preferred, personally I use net-misc/ntp simply because I have always being using it, also looks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 15-11-2013 a las 23:39 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a distro: 1:

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-11-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 14-11-2013 a las 22:22 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: New try: Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 Author: Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-11-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-3.8 Display-If-Installed: gnome-base

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-11-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
New try: Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 Author: Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-11-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-3.8 Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-light-3.8 Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8

[gentoo-dev] About preferred ntp provider

2013-11-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
Reading: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489044 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489040 I don't know what should be preferred, personally I use net-misc/ntp simply because I have always being using it, also looks like we don't have any virtual that could point me about the

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for review: python-exec package move

2013-11-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-11-2013 a las 18:20 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-11-06, o godz. 18:14:57 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Please review the following news item. I would prefer committing it as soon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [IDEA] Enumerate solutions for blockers, to avoid tedious manual work.

2013-11-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat common for (newish) users to not know

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due voip herd removal: dev-libs/jrtplib dev-libs/pwlib media-plugins/mediastreamer-amr media-plugins/mediastreamer-bcg729 media-plugins/mediastreamer-ilbc media-plugins/mediastreamer-silk media-plugins/mediastreamer-x264 net-libs/ccrtp net-libs/h323plus net-libs/libeXosip net-libs/libosip

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-10-2013 a las 08:34 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: We are pleased to announce the stabilization of GNOME-3.8. Users are strongly encouraged to read the GNOME 3.8 Upgrade Guide to avoid any possible issues relating to the upgrade

[gentoo-dev] app-dicts herd is empty

2013-10-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
Looks like it's empty for some time. If nobody joins to it, I will proceed with dissolving the herd in a week or so Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 19-10-2013 a las 10:32 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: Well, even if the stabilization is still waiting for two blocking bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474128 - for Orca 3.8 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486278 - for getting a lvm2 version working ok with Systemd

[gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
attach one based in latest one from the times of 2.32 :D It only points to Gnome 3.8 upgrade guide as that guide is already pointing to Systemd guide for migrating (and explaining the Systemd need) Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 Author: Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-10

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due afterstep and desktop-wm herds removal: net-mail/asmail x11-plugins/asapm x11-plugins/asclock x11-plugins/ascpu x11-plugins/asmem x11-plugins/asmon x11-plugins/astime x11-wm/afterstep - looks that was proxy-maintained sys-libs/libixp x11-misc/bbappconf x11-misc/bbcd x11-misc/bbdate

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due vserver herd removal: sys-cluster/util-vserver sys-fs/vzquota sys-kernel/vserver-sources

Re: [gentoo-dev] about inactive project members/leaders

2013-10-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 15-10-2013 a las 22:53 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] I have read that and that is why I propose that undertakers do also check projects for their internal activity patterns. I don't really think that is a job for the council. I think it's a job for the other project members, they

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 14-10-2013 a las 09:58 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: В Вс, 13/10/2013 в 14:13 -0700, Matt Turner пишет: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1].

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due pebenito retirement: dev-libs/ustr

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due rajiv retirement: net-dns/dnstop net-misc/ser2net

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: =dev-cpp/libgdamm-4.1.3, =gnome-extra/gnome-utils-3.4

2013-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (12 Oct 2013) # No package is needing it but it still needs obsolete # and unmaintained libda:4 slot (#482910). Removal in a month. =dev-cpp/libgdamm-4.1.3 # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (12 Oct 2013) # This meta is no longer needed, bug #480612 # Removal

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 04-10-2013 a las 10:23 +0200, Bernard Cafarelli escribió: I just removed myself from this herd (not enough time and I have not used Afterstep for a long long time), feel free to join if you are an Afterstep user! Open bugs currently include fixing some ignored LDFLAGS, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-10-2013 a las 20:34 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: [...] Will proceed to move its packages to maintainer-needed in a week if it keeps being empty then Move the x11-wm/afterstep package to desktop-wm@ and x11-plugins/ ones to desktop-dock@ Ditto for net-mail/asmail which is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-10-2013 a las 20:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: [...] I meant that for long as desktop-wm@ herd is there, it should be used But you have a very good point, the desktop-wm@ herd has been quiet for years and it's one of those herds that doesn't make sense because no

[gentoo-dev] Re: Addition of systemd subprofiles

2013-10-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 01-10-2013 a las 21:10 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: Hello This comes from: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481920 as we would like to set some saner (for systemd usage) defaults in a subprofile, that way people could switch to it to inherit the changes more easily

[gentoo-dev] Addition of systemd subprofiles

2013-10-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello This comes from: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481920 as we would like to set some saner (for systemd usage) defaults in a subprofile, that way people could switch to it to inherit the changes more easily). For now, it masks consolekit USE flag, enables systemd one and masks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 24-09-2013 a las 22:38 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras: On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs

[gentoo-dev] sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources up for grabs

2013-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
I don't have time for it for a long time (since I switched to official suspend time ago and moved back to gentoo-sources then), updated patches are periodically generated and put at: http://tuxonice.nigelcunningham.com.au/downloads/all/?C=MO=D Feel free to get it if you want

[gentoo-dev] Re: sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources up for grabs

2013-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 21-09-2013 a las 14:42 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: I don't have time for it for a long time (since I switched to official suspend time ago and moved back to gentoo-sources then), updated patches are periodically generated and put at: http://tuxonice.nigelcunningham.com.au/downloads

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
What should we do with pending stabilization bugs having this arches CCed? unCC them?

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 14-09-2013 a las 11:35 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:47:04AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 22:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 09:04:06PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: app-admin/openrc-settingsd

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 14-09-2013 a las 18:07 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:59:57PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: openrc-settings will need to be kept if we ever want to implement: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480336 There may be other reasons to keep the api, that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-09-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 11-09-2013 a las 11:41 +0200, Olav Vitters escribió: [...] * We maintain networkmanager and bluetooth support optional, and this has been the case since 3.2 iirc even though upstream flat out refuses to merge our perfectly fine patches Feel free to cc release-t...@gnome.org on

[gentoo-dev] gnome2-utils.eclass: Add support new gtk-query-immodules handling introduced in gtk+-2.24.20

2013-09-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
We need to handle this in a different way for gtk+-2.24.20 and newer as explained at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476100 The patch is here: https://476100.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=358136 If you have any problems with it, please tell me so. Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_install_serviced().

2013-09-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-09-2013 a las 17:14 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue escribió: Le dimanche 08 septembre 2013 à 13:12 +0200, Michał Górny a écrit : This function can be used to install service configuration templates. Usage: systemd_install_serviced ${FILESDIR}/foo.service.conf or:

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-irc/ezbounce, app-misc/gpsdrive, sys-fs/cdfs, =dev-cpp/libxmlpp-1.0*, app-arch/xarchiver

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (07 Sep 2013) # Fails to build with gcc-4.7, no release since 2009, # nothing in the tree needs it. Removal in a month. net-irc/ezbounce # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (07 Sep 2013) # Upstream looks dead, lots of unattended bugs needing # patches (#369007, #444135

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 07-09-2013 a las 14:37 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage I'd say it

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 31-08-2013 a las 12:37 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina escribió: [...] I know we are a little OT here but the fifth type of recruit is someone who is very excited, very dedicated, and completely unable to find a mentor. That is where I was for a long time, no one seemed to have the time

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 21:14 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:14:35 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: If you are talking about Heather, looks like for some reason I was missing some of his mails (I was losing them), I am reviewing that problem. Just his

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 08:10 +0400, Heather escribió: [...] Hello. I used to mail you two times about it... I have no developer status but I need to know if you mind to take me on the board. My recruitment bug is #461458. Maybe I missed them for some reason :O, let me check (you

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 16:13 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:34:00 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshee and whatever it requires

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 16:46 +0200, hasufell escribió: On 08/27/2013 02:34 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshee and whatever it requires. I don't have much time to invest

[gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshee and whatever it requires. I don't have much time to invest on their packages and, then, there are some pending bumps, some of them needing some work (like gtk-sharp,

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with people who use internal eclass functions?

2013-08-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 26-08-2013 a las 09:38 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Hello, all. I've noticed that some people are using internal eclass functions in their ebuilds. I mean, functions that are explicitly marked @INTERNAL and that start with an underscore. What should I do to them? I would expect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 18:08 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: On 21/08/2013 17:54, Sergey Popov wrote: Why we should bring new half-stable, half-testing keyword for this? I think that this is no way to go. We should improve current situation with arches by some other ways(e.g.,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 11:52 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-08-20, o godz. 13:01:34 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Hello, Due to the widespread breakage in the tree noted in bug #480892 [1], and mis-design of multilib-minimal.eclass, we'd like to put some more

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 11:16 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: [...] That's not what I am suggesting. It is not about bringing in new versions, but about getting rid of OLD versions which LIKELY contain MORE security problems than you imagine. Keeping them around for too long time isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 10:57 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:22:39 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Regarding the kernel... well, I don't think having a 3.8.x kernel as stable one is so old, what are current kernel versions in stable Fedora, OpenSuSE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 12:04 +0100, Markos Chandras escribió: [...] If I get enough positive feedback on this, I will propose this in the next Council's agenda. + :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 13:45 +0200, hasufell escribió: On 08/20/2013 01:01 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, Due to the widespread breakage in the tree noted in bug #480892 [1], and mis-design of multilib-minimal.eclass, we'd like to put some more work into getting einstalldocs() ready

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 14:25 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: [...] 2) recruit more arch testers/arch team members; Same point as before, let's see if that will be enough. Well, ago has being doing a great work getting more Arch Testers (at least for amd64), maybe some of them could give the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 14:35 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: Could appending to DOCS be allowed? I have seen a lot of time of me needing to install all docs manually only to add a doc file over default DOCS. Would be interesting to simply do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding consolekit meaning in some ebuilds

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 19-08-2013 a las 10:30 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: On 19/08/13 08:49 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I have seen some ebuilds (just seen bluez one) that are using consolekit USE flag to not force plugdev group usage (as it's not used on consolekit/logind setups). The problem

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 12:26 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Hello, fellow developers. I've added a few new fancy features for Gentoo developers to portage git. Sadly, since Zac isn't planning another release until 2.2.0 goes stable, you need to switch to - to use them. But I say to you,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 14:58 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: Dnia 2013-08-20, o godz. 13:42:38 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org napisał(a): El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 12:26 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: [...] 2. FEATURES=network-sandbox [...] This one's going to trigger a lot of breakage

[gentoo-dev] Regarding consolekit meaning in some ebuilds

2013-08-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
I have seen some ebuilds (just seen bluez one) that are using consolekit USE flag to not force plugdev group usage (as it's not used on consolekit/logind setups). The problem is that this is common with systemd/logind then, people merging bluez, will want this consolekit USE flag enabled. Should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 15-08-2013 a las 07:42 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 14-08-2013 a las 23:53 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: [...] Well, it should reflect reality. PMS is still broken as much as it does not reflect the state of portage before PMS was written, and we've had to patch it up a few times to make it coherent, plus it is still lacking half the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 14-08-2013 a las 15:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is: 'why?'. It is one of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 11-08-2013 a las 08:41 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 09/08/13 12:51, Pacho Ramos wrote: El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 11:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: Pacho Ramos schrieb: If OpenBSD can do it, then Gentoo can do it, too. So would you accept ebuild patches

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 02:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: Pacho Ramos schrieb: - openBSD is simply supplying the semibroken Gnome stuff running with their setup (without multiseat working, neither power management, gdm service handling, and any new issues that could rise

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 02:25 +0200, Michael Weber escribió: Citing from Pachos blog, [...] we are now forcing people to *run* systemd to be able to properly run Gnome 3.8, otherwise power management and multiseat support are lost, [...] [1]. Pacho, would you accept patches and USE flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242750 Quoting: Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2008-10-19 15:13:07 EEST Currently, I am mainly (there are other apps that I prefer not install in all systems but adding a USE flag for each of them would be excesive) using gnome-light instead of gnome ebuild because I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 11:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: Pacho Ramos schrieb: If OpenBSD can do it, then Gentoo can do it, too. So would you accept ebuild patches that make it possible to install Gnome 3.8 without systemd again? Only make it possible, not turn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 12:22 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: [...] Ok so we have these options: 1. keep systemd as hard dependency (current) 2. IUSE=+systemd or openrc-force with ewarn when set to unsupported state 3. #2 + systemd in package.use.force, can be unforced via

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 19:39 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: You just removed the upgrade path for users. The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upgraded Developer Joachim Bartosik (jbartosik)

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 15:47 +0200, Justin escribió: Hi, I would like to announce that Joachim Bartosik (jbartosik) just joined the team as a full dev. He contributed as a staffer before and would like to help now various areas, among others in the gnome project. Please give him

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 11:40 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: [...] That makes a lot of sense, and on that basis keeping gnome-3.8+ in ~arch is probably not warranted. HOWEVER, part of keeping things stable is also a stable upgrade path, and -at least at this point- it is -not- trivial to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 12:02 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: It may be pertinent for this reason (a smoother upgrade path) and this reason alone, to stabilize gnome-3.6 first -- just to get into gnome3 (and get gnome-2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 12:20 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: [...] Somewhat related question -- a new(?) profile was mentioned as being required for gnome-3 ; if this is definitely happening, would it be a good idea to mask gnome in the other profiles? Would that help with the migration

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:36 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] I am only talking about stabilization here, maybe that wasn't clear enough? The virtual is in @system and the default pre-installed implementation is INCOMPATIBLE with gnome-3.8. Until that is solved (in what way I don't care),

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:52 +0200, hasufell escribió: On 08/08/2013 06:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:36 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] I am only talking about stabilization here, maybe that wasn't clear enough? The virtual is in @system and the default pre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 21:40 +0100, Mike Auty escribió: [...] Ok, So there's lots of people that don't want systemd. Can't we group together and have some kind of an affect on upstream? Upstream appears to be suffering the same split we found with portage, in that the specification that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 07-08-2013 a las 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber escribió: Greetings, Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires systemd. What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 22:32 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. If Robin wants to support USE=static

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 01-08-2013 a las 18:11 +0200, Luca Barbato escribió: On 01/08/13 17:36, Michał Górny wrote: So esystemd and ekmod now? You know my stance on systemd, for me it is a jumble of bad and interesting ideas not so soundly implemented, I do not have much time or will to play with that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 01-08-2013 a las 14:05 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: [...] Some cluster things in lvm does not work in mine setup with shared builds. Only USE=static static-libs is only working combination. Something related with cluster file locking library - it does not load if it is build shared.

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 21:34 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos

[gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is currently reverting that commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? portageq owners / /path/to/directory But, doesn't it force me

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
=478110#c33 Looks like the static stuff isn't needed (that would allow us to not need to keep static stuff in sys-apps/udev) On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:07:39PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-30 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 29-07-2013 a las 21:07 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dustin C. Hatch admiraln...@gmail.com wrote: I think the point is that users may have an initramfs (that they built manually or using some tool besides dracut or genkernel) that makes use of

[gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is currently reverting that commit downstream (even if upstream says some problems could appear in the future as nobody is taking care of static stuff there).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 29-07-2013 a las 17:13 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Grepping in the tree, looks like only some old genkernel versions are depending on it. Apart of that, what is requiring static libs in cryptsetup and lvm2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: toolchain-r1.eclass

2013-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 25-07-2013 a las 22:30 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:26:48 -0700 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: About one month ago I've filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474358 about modernizing toolchain.eclass by creating new toolchain-r1.eclass

[gentoo-portage-dev] A way for trying to prevent useless rebuilds

2013-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
This question comes to my mind every time a developer decides to drop/add a USE flag to ebuilds like gcc/webkit-gtk/libreoffice... I think that we should have a file (like used for category movements) to let PM know how to handle this situation. For example, category/foo-1.0 has a gnome USE

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] A way for trying to prevent useless rebuilds

2013-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 25-07-2013 a las 12:00 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/25/2013 11:54 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This question comes to my mind every time a developer decides to drop/add a USE flag to ebuilds like gcc/webkit-gtk/libreoffice... I think that we should have a file (like used

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] A way for trying to prevent useless rebuilds

2013-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 26-07-2013 a las 02:47 +0300, Alex Alexander escribió: I once half-implemented something like this but never got to finish it, I'll try to dig up my code and check out its state. I recall using updates/ to tell portage what happened, which then updated the VDB to reflect the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] vserver herd is empty

2013-07-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-07-2013 a las 12:44 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: В Вс, 21/07/2013 в 10:23 +0200, Pacho Ramos пишет: Will remove the herd if nobody joins in a week. I talked to hollow and we think it's worth to remove this herd. Actually only openvz and vserver packages are in this herd

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_is_booted().

2013-07-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-07-2013 a las 11:34 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: On 24/07/13 10:33 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: Runtime warnings would require non-trivial patching of the packages in question, so it's not a realistic alternative. It should be done anyways, though, unless the

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-libs/openinventor, dev-cpp/libebt, sys-kernel/ksymoops, net-p2p/bitstormlite, net-p2p/mutella, dev-cpp/IceE

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (21 Jul 2013) # Doesn't compile with gcc-4.7 (#414143), lib is no longer # opensource or free. Removal in a month. media-libs/openinventor # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (21 Jul 2013) # Doesn't compile with boost-1.50 and with automake-1.13 # (#425448). Removal

[gentoo-dev] vserver herd is empty

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
Will remove the herd if nobody joins in a week. Thanks!

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due sbriesen lack of time: app-cdr/mkcdtoc app-text/sigil dev-db/lib_mysqludf_fPROJ4 dev-db/lib_mysqludf_json dev-db/lib_mysqludf_log dev-db/lib_mysqludf_preg dev-db/lib_mysqludf_stem dev-db/lib_mysqludf_stat dev-db/lib_mysqludf_str dev-db/lib_mysqludf_sys dev-db/lib_mysqludf_ta

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due phosphan lack of time: app-admin/lcap app-admin/fetchlog app-misc/mepl app-text/epstool dev-db/vbisam dev-lang/tinycobol dev-util/cdecl media-gfx/sane-backends media-gfx/sane-frontends media-libs/libemf net-analyzer/prelude-nessus net-ftp/weex net-mail/libdbx net-mail/vacation

Re: [gentoo-dev] sgml herd has no maintainers (again)

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 18:35 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: El dom, 17-03-2013 a las 11:02 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: I just dropped myself due to lack of interest. If anyone cares for any of the packages please take them over. Will dissolve it next week if nobody joins

Re: [gentoo-dev] gdesklets herd is empty

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 16-06-2013 a las 11:38 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: Feel free to join to it or will be removed in two weeks Thanks! The following packages are up for grabs then: gnome-extra/gdesklets-core x11-plugins/desklet-Genesis x11-plugins/desklet-ImageSlideShow x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES=userpriv usersandbox by default?

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 03-07-2012 a las 10:02 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:45:26 -0700 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/02/2012 01:36 PM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: Il 02/07/2012 22:01, Zac Medico ha scritto: On 07/02/2012 12:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 28-05

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 31-03-2012 a las 17:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 03/31/2012 04:25 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:42:50AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the one I use

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