Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libuv: libuv-1.2.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2015-01-16 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/16/15 23:26, hasufell wrote: Patrick Lauer (patrick): patrick 15/01/16 04:16:55 Modified: ChangeLog Added:libuv-1.2.1.ebuild Log: Bump I expect people to ask me for review if they bump any of my packages. That includes QA team members

Re: [gentoo-dev] qa last rites -- long list

2015-01-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/07/15 06:24, William Hubbs wrote: All, Many packages have been masked in the tree for months - years with no signs of fixes. I am particularly concerned about packages with known security vulnerabilities staying in the main tree masked. If people want to keep using those packages,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running repoman on the portage tree

2014-11-19 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/19/14 10:17, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Hey devs, This is my first mail to this list. If this is out of line, let me know. I've been playing around with Jenkins (continuous integration server) recently for a couple of personal projects, including my own overlay. I thought it would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage dependency solving algorithm

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/08/2014 03:08 AM, hasufell wrote: On 11/07/2014 07:54 PM, Matthias Maier wrote: Well, you're not comparing like with like. Paludis with everything turned off does more than Portage with everything turned on. If all you're looking for is the wrong answer as fast as possible, there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage dependency solving algorithm

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/08/2014 10:48 PM, hasufell wrote: On 11/08/2014 02:24 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 11/08/2014 03:08 AM, hasufell wrote: On 11/07/2014 07:54 PM, Matthias Maier wrote: Well, you're not comparing like with like. Paludis with everything turned off does more than Portage with everything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage dependency solving algorithm

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/09/2014 08:04 AM, hasufell wrote: On 11/09/2014 12:33 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: It's not about NIH, it's about slow code being slow. Can't disagree more. It's about wrong results, broken systems, unreadable error messages, days of figuring out ruby, perl, haskell, multilib, python

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.3.x removal on October 27, migrate to 2.4.x

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tuesday 14 October 2014 16:02:20 Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:52:03AM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 10/14/14 05:22, Robin H. Johnson wrote: For compatibility and migration support, we've kept the old OpenLDAP 2.3.x ebuilds in the tree for nearly 5 years

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.3.x removal on October 27, migrate to 2.4.x

2014-10-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/14/14 05:22, Robin H. Johnson wrote: For compatibility and migration support, we've kept the old OpenLDAP 2.3.x ebuilds in the tree for nearly 5 years. And you better keep them for a while, because some of us are stuck with 2.3, and mixed operation (e.g. master 2.4, slaves 2.3) is not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo git workflows and the stabilization/keywording process

2014-09-21 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Monday 22 September 2014 00:52:14 hasufell wrote: | • repoman must be run from all related ebuild directories (or | | related category directories or top-level directory) on the tip of | the local master branch (as in: right before you push and also | after resolving

Re: [gentoo-dev] My masterplan for git migration (+ looking for infra to test it)

2014-09-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 14 September 2014 15:40:06 Davide Pesavento wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: We have main developer repo where developers work commit and are relatively happy. For every push into developer repo, automated magic thingie merges stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] My masterplan for git migration (+ looking for infra to test it)

2014-09-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 14 September 2014 15:42:15 hasufell wrote: Patrick Lauer: Are we going to disallow merge commits and ask devs to rebase local changes in order to keep the history clean? Is that going to be sane with our commit frequency? You have to merge or rebase anyway in case of a push

Re: [gentoo-dev] My masterplan for git migration (+ looking for infra to test it)

2014-09-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Monday 15 September 2014 11:27:34 Kent Fredric wrote: On 15 September 2014 11:21, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: iow, git doesn't allow people to work on more than one item at a time? That'd mean I need half a dozen checkouts just to emulate cvs, which somehow doesn't make

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 64: Export Package Manager Cached Information. (Was: RFC: GLEP 64: Standardize contents of VDB and establish and API for exporting this information.)

2014-09-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
That means either say you cannot expect anything, because there might or might not be metadata or say you can expect metadata for any provided/installed package in which case package.provided feature has to be removed from portage. Provided means not managed by the package manager

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 64: Export Package Manager Cached Information. (Was: RFC: GLEP 64: Standardize contents of VDB and establish and API for exporting this information.)

2014-09-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Saturday 06 September 2014 16:22:46 hasufell wrote: Anthony G. Basile: On 09/06/14 12:12, hasufell wrote: Anthony G. Basile: And when you do ask, is a package that's provided installed, and if so, what's its metadata? When the package is installed, that data should have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set

2014-09-06 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Friday 05 September 2014 12:34:11 William Hubbs wrote: All, there is a bug open requesting that we add sys-apps/iproute2 to the system set [1]. Originally the request was to drop net-tools, but it has become just adding iproute2. I wouldn't mind either option - net-tools has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-needed@ packages need you!

2014-08-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 31 August 2014 11:39:22 hasufell wrote: Martin Vaeth: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/30/2014 02:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: For net-im/skype, Screw skype. Please don't. Not all communication partners are linux users. Tox is multiplatform. We have tox [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)

2014-08-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 31 August 2014 17:13:49 Samuli Suominen wrote: Trying to raise awareness: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=be2ea723b1d023b3d385d 3b791ee4607cbfb20ca What are the effects for end-users? Will things just quietly fail hard (e.g. radeon driver - no firmware -

Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-25 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Wednesday 23 July 2014 01:06:15 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:10:20 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 22/07/14 04:05, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: And just for fun, since no one has mentioned it yet, dynamic deps don't work at all on binpkgs since the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-07-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/29/14 17:33, Markos Chandras wrote: On 06/29/2014 10:23 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2014 17:03:52 Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2014 10:12:22 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: It's been a long time

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-07-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/30/14 22:15, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:25:27 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Agree 100%. I'm taking about masking things that HAVEN'T BEEN TESTED AT ALL. The maintainer knows that they compile, and that is it. Developers who HAVEN'T [...] TESTED AT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 29 June 2014 10:12:22 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: It's been a long time. To be honest I don't remember masking docker but I most likely did it because I was asked to mask =lxc-1.0.0 by the virtualization team

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 29 June 2014 17:03:52 Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2014 10:12:22 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: It's been a long time. To be honest I don't remember masking docker but I most likely did it because I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: crossdev and multilib interference

2014-06-16 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/17/2014 04:24 AM, hasufell wrote: What about those of us who have been using crossdev to generate cross-compilers for years w/o issue, because we run non-multilib? Hardmasking crossdev to solve multilib problems doesn't accomplish anything, other than just irk us. Why not hardmask the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?

2014-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Saturday 14 June 2014 11:50:29 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than necessary. This shouldn't be

[gentoo-dev] The infinite git migration

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/10/2014 11:45 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: [lots of whining removed ;) ] I don't know why CVS is still used for Gentoo main repository, probably some infrastructure elements depends deeply on its internals, because I see of no other reason why Git is still not used despite efforts

Re: [gentoo-dev] The state and future of the OpenRC project

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/11/2014 01:39 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 23:08:15 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 15:35:04 -0500 Daniel Campbell cont...@sporkbox.us wrote: [2]: Overview of bugs that involve OpenRC, most for the package itself.

Re: [gentoo-dev] The state and future etc. etc.

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/10/2014 03:52 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote: On 08/06/14 18:06, hasufell wrote: I am not sure if that is a joke. You can pretty much ask most major gentoo projects. The ones where I was involved more deeply definitely suffer from that problem, including sunrise and games team. Science team

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The state and future of the OpenRC project

2014-06-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/11/2014 12:10 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: But, for the most part we just need to get the back-end re-written to work with a git repo. Actually migrating the tree itself to git is largely a solved problem. Weren't we also waiting for some gpg signing stuff to land? That's completely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release - No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore

2014-06-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/03/2014 07:25 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 03/06/14 14:40, J. Roeleveld wrote: Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the systemd- depending sys-power/upower-pm-utils stable. -- Joost No clue what you mean, sys-power/upower-pm-utils doesn't depend on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release - No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore

2014-06-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/04/2014 08:24 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:55:50 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06/03/2014 07:25 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 03/06/14 14:40, J. Roeleveld wrote: Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the systemd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-06-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2014 14:50:56 Parker Schmitt wrote: I think we need to keep the opencl stuff. In a few weeks I'll have time to help. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi All! There's a bunch packages that I'm officially maintaining but due

Re: [gentoo-dev] Akamai secure memory allocator for OpenSSL?

2014-04-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/14/2014 04:42 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: So one of the side-discussions happening after Heartbleed was the fact that OpenSSL has its own memory allocator code that effectively mitigates any C library-provided exploit mitigations (as discussed on the openbsd-misc ML at [1] and Ted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the 30 days maintainer timeout stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/03/2014 12:52 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: The 30 days maintainer time out stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require stabilization in sync at both SLOTs Question: Why is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/01/2014 01:13 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, all. The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on abi_x86_* flags and, honestly, I'm not sure if we're doing things the right way. That said, I have an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/01/2014 10:43 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: In my opinion your multilib approach introduces an unnecessary degree of complexity, which --as has been shown

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-functions is in the tree

2014-03-12 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 03/13/2014 12:52 AM, William Hubbs wrote: No, I don't think gentoo-functions should take over the symbolic link in /etc/init.d/functions.sh; that needs to stay with OpenRc. My plan there is to work that into a script that prints a warning message. It will stay that way until openrc-1.0.

[gentoo-dev] gentoo-x86 and git

2014-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
Ahoi, I've been looking for a clean git-converted gentoo-x86 repo for ... well ... mostly data mining as cvs / anoncvs.g.o is too slow for some things. This has been needlessly challenging, which confuses me a bit. First, a little complaint: There used to be some data at

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Tightening EAPI rules

2014-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
As previously discussed I would like to suggest that the number of tolerated EAPIs be reduced. There's been some discussion over the last 2+ years, with a weak consensus towards deprecating some EAPIs. What, when and how still isn't decided. So let's add some data so we have a better idea: EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Tightening EAPI rules

2014-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 02/10/2014 09:34 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Adding EAPI 1 and 2 ebuilds is forbidden. (repoman-fatal) Does adding in this case include revbumps? By the design of our repo structure and repoman, yes. (I don't see

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Tightening EAPI rules

2014-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 02/10/2014 09:23 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: The statement Deprecating an EAPI can mean breakage depends on what we mean by deprecating. I'm assuming here we mean something like repoman won't allow commits at EAPI=1,2,3 but that ebuilds in the tree at those EAPI's will continue working.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-22 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/22/2014 03:00 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't want to appear rude, but when reading this entire mail all I see is someone who has probably never had to do it for real. People are not machines. Volunteers really do not like having their freely given time nullified and access removed

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-20 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/20/2014 10:09 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/20/14 15:59, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: #gentoo-qa | @hwoarang: pretty sure diego had the powerzz to suspend people Whether this has actually happened is something that

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlays.gentoo.org restoration post-mortem

2014-01-17 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/18/2014 01:23 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 18 January 2014 18:02, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org mailto:robb...@gentoo.org wrote: - More people need to use the infra-status page to learn about the state of Gentoo services. A service middle layer like fastly or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] pkgcore bikeshed (was Portage team)

2014-01-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/13/2014 10:58 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:31:56 +0100 Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: Portage can still take *minutes* to calculate the merge queue of a pkg with all its deps satisfied. Half a minute if you disable backtracking which you don't need. :) Or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/10/2014 08:30 PM, Igor wrote: Hello Heroxbd, Friday, January 10, 2014, 4:16:47 AM, you wrote: The ebuilds have approximately the same time to install, the failure rate is about the same, emerge is getting slower. I am curious about the slowness of emerge. How about profile the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/11/2014 02:11 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:31:21 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/10/2014 08:16 AM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Igor lanthrus...@gmail.com writes: The ebuilds have approximately the same time to install, the failure rate is about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/10/2014 08:16 AM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Igor lanthrus...@gmail.com writes: The ebuilds have approximately the same time to install, the failure rate is about the same, emerge is getting slower. I am curious about the slowness of emerge. How about profile the portage and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-28 Thread Patrick Lauer
The discussion is based on some questions that are hard to agree on: 1. How much of a problem is an unused USE flag in metadata.xml? Cosmetic issue. No functional impact. 2. Should such repoman warnings be fixed? By whom? When? How? Yes. You see it, you fix it. Not fixing cosmetic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-26 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/26/2013 02:29 PM, hasufell wrote: On 12/26/2013 02:27 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:25:04 +0100 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: That is funny that you mention cleaning up. I remember last time when you broke 8 ebuilds at once because you just trusted your

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-25 Thread Patrick Lauer
You are interfering with my workflow and I already told you why I kept the useflag, so stop reverting my commits after I told you the reasons in a private mail. Eh, it's been two days, and the temporary issue is still there ... Fix your workflow not to rely on repoman warnings being

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-25 Thread Patrick Lauer
. (besides that you already managed to break the Manifest of this stable package last time) S 25 Dec 2013; Julian Ospald hasuf...@gentoo.org metadata.xml: revert pseudo-QA commit 25 Dec 2013; Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org metadata.xml: Remove unneeded useflag

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming rc binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/12/2013 04:41 AM, William Hubbs wrote: All, We got a request from Debian to rename the rc binary of OpenRC due to a naming conflict they have. They have a port of the att plan 9 shell, which has a binary named rc as well[1]. My thought is to rename our rc to openrc, since that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming rc binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/12/2013 05:28 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Chris Reffett creff...@gentoo.org wrote: The idea of running a sed on inittab in an ebuild, no matter what the context, terrifies me. Perhaps we can ease this in slowly by renaming rc - openrc and symlinking rc -

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/09/2013 10:50 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 12/08/2013 05:25 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:52:08AM -0500, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/09/2013 12:54 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: Creating a new SLOT is the most sane thing going forward; but, as the default (:*) depends on any SLOT, this needs a half thousand commits to fix up reverse dependencies. Thus, instead a new package is made. [1] Pff. Lazy. When our defaults

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-04 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/05/2013 05:30 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 06:46:36PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: seems like a virtual that wouldn't do anything useful except pull in random package(s) a la binary-distribution

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-04 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/05/2013 08:13 AM, William Hubbs wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 07:45:22AM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 12/05/2013 05:30 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 06:46:36PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/15/2013 03:13 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Ben de Groot wrote: As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a distro: 1: emul-* packages 2: multilib-portage 3: multilib.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/14/2013 01:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-11-14, o godz. 07:49:55 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 11/13/2013 11:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is {package.,}use.stable.masked is because trying

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/14/2013 08:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: So just fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time ... Have any problems appeared that impact anybody who hasn't tried to take advantage of the new multilib

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/15/2013 01:51 AM, Michał Górny wrote: So tell me, what you exactly want or need? Or is it just bare complaining for the sake of complaining? Well, you accidentally cut out all references to TommyD's work again. Almost as if you don't even want to discuss a working proper solution that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/15/2013 03:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:07:39 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: - multilib-portage was planned to add features with a future EAPI version, so in the end needs agreement from maintainers of package managers, the pms team and the council.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/13/2013 11:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is {package.,}use.stable.masked is because trying to manage the partial transisition between emul-* and multilib-build dependencies ^^ Why is there a partial random transition

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc

2013-10-20 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/20/2013 06:18 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/19/2013 06:43 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: P.S.: It is interesting to see the effects of AutoRepoman beating people to filing bugs, maybe I should write AutoNotifyman as a response to not having the chance to file the bug in a reasonable time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc

2013-10-20 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/20/2013 07:41 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 11:40 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: The affected packages can slowly be fixed. It's not like they are totally broken but it's more like of another way to tell you that a few QA problems exist and that it would be nice to fix them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding large files to the mirrors?

2013-10-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/16/2013 07:20 AM, Mike Auty wrote: Hi there, I'm updating the app-crypt/ophcrack-tables package to include the new tables available from their site. These are basically just additional data packages that can be useful with the app-crypt/ophcrack package, but they're very large.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/14/2013 03:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote: All, from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1]. Are there any remaining concerns about doing this? Apart from breaking umount -a and some other things? None at all ;) (The breakage is

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-13 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 10/14/2013 07:29 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/14/2013 03:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote: All, from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1]. Are there any

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/30/2013 07:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: hasufell schrieb: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 for the first bug: net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and net-voip/linphone are from the same upstream and actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-26 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/25/2013 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which is a worrying argument on its own) 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-26 Thread Patrick Lauer
tl;dr: We should use EAPI5 features I've noticed some libraries (e.g. poppler) having (almost) all their consumers migrated to eapi5 subslots. So upgrading those is now really neato. Other libraries are still a bit less optimal. So there's lots of revdep-rebuild / emerge @preserved-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/15/2013 03:15 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 15 August 2013 00:42, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is: 'why?'. It is one of the long-standing feature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get a sense for how they're being used, trade ideas, etc. No, we can't. Sets are portage-specific, the tree needs to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:44 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only

[gentoo-dev] Re: Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/13/2013 04:10 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: As per my comment in bugzilla [1] I said that the patch should be submitted upstream prior having it in cvs. Yet you decided to completely ignore my statement and just smash in the patch anyway [2]. Please don't do this ever again. We had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:54 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:50:36 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/15/2013 04:56 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:41, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 07:37 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Somehow I get really confused by this selective perception (anyone remembering the KDE overlay getting paludised and the fallout from that?) That's a very selective

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 07:45 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:39:08 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: You just removed the upgrade path for users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 08:28 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: You just removed the upgrade path for users. Just install systemd. There really isn't any practical alternative. Gentoo with systemd is as Gentooish a configuration as Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 11:12 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:50:24 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: So users will have gnome working but not any other component? How can this a good service for users? Just like we can't ensure that everything builds with LLVM doesn't mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 10:59 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:22:38 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: There was no decision to support Gentoo using any other layout than openrc (baselayout). Was there the decision to only support a single layout on Gentoo? Where? You kids

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 06:27 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:30 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/09/2013 09:36 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: It is not a regression if a new version of gnome mrequires systemd and does not work with OpenRc; it is a design choice. We are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: You just removed the upgrade path for users. The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement openrc support. Invalid upgrade path. The upgrade path is to install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/08/2013 10:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. Yes it is, because our policy has

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
[snip] On 08/08/2013 05:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: OpenRC is just one init system that Gentoo supports. Gentoo does not require the use of OpenRC any more than it requires the use of portage as the package manager. So would you stabilize a package that works with paludis, but not with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: Greetings, Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires systemd. What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this restriction, enabling all

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of security improvments (GLEPs 57-61)

2013-08-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/08/2013 04:47 AM, hasufell wrote: On 08/07/2013 09:55 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 10:32:39AM -0400, Alex Xu wrote: AFAIK, the status is unimplemented, and nobody's working on it. No, I did post implementation patches for much of it back when the GLEPs were in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running tests using virtualx.eclass should be allowed to be forced to run in virtual X always

2013-07-19 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 07/19/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: The problem I hit usually: There are some packages that rely on X for some tests, that way, when I for example emerge tk, it's nearly impossible to keep working because I get tons of windows opened and closed. Wouldn't be better to make that

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: rox-base/rox-clib, sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode, rox-extra/downloadmanager, sys-cluster/mpi-dotnet, media-tv/livestation, dev-lang/boo, gnome-extra/cont

2013-06-15 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/16/2013 04:37 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (15 Jun 2013) # Upstream dead for ages, nothing requires it, wrongly # generated .la files (#201440). Removal in a month. rox-base/rox-clib No :) I've commented out that mask in package.mask because:

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC USE flag changes

2013-04-30 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/01/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change flags on gcc this is a friendly notice of some upcoming changes. [snip lots of good ideas] Any thoughts? I'm in favour of unleashing 4.8 in ~arch soon - I've been building

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-text/cuneiform

2013-03-24 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 03/24/2013 09:40 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: Markos Chandras wrote: The masks are sort of announcements as you have 30 days to revert that decision. You don't seem to recognize the quite significant psychological impact of you having already made the decision, compared to, say, having an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-gfx/picasa, dev-python/papyon, net-voip/telepathy-butterfly, sci-visualization/paraview, x11-misc/xdaf

2013-02-10 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 02/10/2013 05:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013) # Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with # boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old # version in the tree, people should move to sci overlay one (#424659). #

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 02/03/2013 09:45 PM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: dev-libs/boehm-gc Will take this one in a few days if no one else grabs it first. Since it's a dependency of one package I maintain (dev-lang/opendylan) I have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new qt category

2013-01-19 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 01/19/2013 09:39 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Maybe x11-qt, or dev-qt, or just qt, or qt-qt if we must have a hyphen for its own sake and we're just making senseless stuff up. qt-core just doesn't make sense if it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-28 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/26/2012 05:39 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: I know, it should be easy, and I'm probably making excuses, but it boils down to Well, it boils down to you needing an excuse ;) 1. People in Gentoo have asked me to/encouraged me to do the quizzes 2. I've tried several times 3. Still not there.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-16 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/17/12 08:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/16/12 14:04, Markos Chandras wrote: On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment

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