Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Heschi Kreinick
You're acting like this is a big deal. Unless I'm missing something, it's really not. I don't know how much people know about how Portage calculates its dep tree, so I'll start from scratch. When you emerge a package, two important (for our purposes) things happen. 1) a directory in /var/db/pkg is

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Heschi Kreinick
Your initial discussion did not relate to my bug at all. Yes, it did. It explained, in fact, exactly why this happens. It may have been too verbose or basic for you, but again, I have no idea how much you know about how Portage works, and you don't seem to have read it at all. It's possible that

[gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Hello Given that this issue arises quite frequently I have filed a bug about it. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26540 Please read it and provide feedback either on the bug or on this list. Basically, the issue at hand is the difference between [1] and [2] and how portage should handle

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 05:26:07PM +0100, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: William Hubbs wrote: From emerge --help, I got the following: --deep (-D short option) When used in conjunction with --update, this flag forces emerge to consider the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Erik Ordway wrote: I think that there is a significant difference between Updating all installed packages and ... all packages and all dependencies that need to be updated.. I may be wrong but the first says update and rebuild any thing on the system that can be updated and the second says

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages = CLOSED

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Heschi Kreinick wrote: I would appreciate it if you went back and reread what I wrote, because I thought I addressed the problem fairly completely. -Heschi After a discussion on #gentoo with a developer I've asked for this bug to be closed which has been done. It was decided, as you may have

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
William Hubbs wrote: The packages were installed (they appeared as upgrades). The way I see it, an installed package can have 4 possible relationships to other packages on the system: 1) It is in the world file. (this is caught by your first command) 2) It is part of the system profile. (this

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
William Hubbs wrote: Here is an addition to this. I just ran your commands, and the only packages that were omitted by --deep were net-ftp/ftp and sys-apps/netkit-base. As I recall, these were part of the system profile at one time, but they have been removed. Is it possible that the qpkg -I

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:20:25PM +0100, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: William Hubbs wrote: Here is an addition to this. I just ran your commands, and the only packages that were omitted by --deep were net-ftp/ftp and sys-apps/netkit-base. As I recall, these were part of the system profile

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Heschi Kreinick wrote: snip Your initial discussion did not relate to my bug at all. But, you ask, how do I get rid of them? That's what dep-clean is for. It's I did not ask this. usual, I think this is a documentation bug, not a portage bug. Would you really prefer that Portage waste its time

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: Updating all installed packages

2003-08-14 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Dhruba, On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:39:22PM +0100, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: Hello Given that this issue arises quite frequently I have filed a bug about it. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26540 Please read it and provide feedback either on the bug or on this list.