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On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:05:42 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 27 June 2003 09:49 am, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
It is clear there is more to this than Gentoo is letting on ... or
there wouldn't be a reorg going on
The way I see it, reorganization is
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On Thursday 26 June 2003 20:36, Brenden Walker wrote:
A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork:
Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to
be making any
money from Gentoo? That's the impression I'm getting from
holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For Mr. Veldhouse - here's the quote and link. It sure
says to me they are going non-profit.
As for the progression to the not-for-profit, the
top-level managers
It is clear there is more to this than Gentoo is letting on ... or there
wouldn't be a reorg going on.
Tom Veldhouse
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From: ueberlamer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fork of Gentoo?
Well, from
On Friday 27 June 2003 09:49 am, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
It is clear there is more to this than Gentoo is letting on ... or
there wouldn't be a reorg going on
The way I see it, reorganization is needed to separate Gentoo the distro
from Gentoo Games and perhaps a future Gentoo Embedded.
I think we need to wait and get more facts before we
ascribe evil intent to Gentoo based on one person's web
site. I don't know either Daniel or the other guy in any
way but all we've heard is his side. Strangely, there
were no allegations of evil plotting and none of this
mattered until
This is probably slightly off topic, but for an interesting overview
of the forking history of UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems, check
out http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
It doesn't cover all the various Linux distros, since that would
probably take up another 7 pages.
On June 27,
community. Let's give the man some respect and support!
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From: brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:44 AM
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I think we need to wait and get more facts before we
ascribe evil
From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The way I see it, reorganization is needed to separate Gentoo the distro
from Gentoo Games and perhaps a future Gentoo Embedded.
Daniel has promised an explanation at some vague point in the future.
See:
On Friday 27 June 2003 10:54 am, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The way I see it, reorganization is needed to separate Gentoo the
distro from Gentoo Games and perhaps a future Gentoo Embedded.
Daniel has promised an explanation at some vague point in the
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:54:51 +0200
ueberlamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Thursday 26 June 2003 20:36, Brenden Walker wrote:
A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork:
Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 09:43, brett holcomb wrote:
way but all we've heard is his side. Strangely, there
were no allegations of evil plotting and none of this
mattered until the fork announcement was made. As to the
No allegations of evil plotting, but there has been more than one
request
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:46, Chip Marshall wrote:
This is probably slightly off topic, but for an interesting overview
of the forking history of UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems, check
out http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
It doesn't cover all the various Linux distros, since that
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:48:59 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See the /. article
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/26/048221 regarding a fork
of Gentoo. Decide for yourself on some ethics questions raised
http://www.zynot.org/info/fork.html
I think it's time for a
There is a thread running in Dev, and Daniels response certainly proves
there is bad blood. Now, about those domain names ...
Tom Veldhouse
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
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On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 14:48, Ernie Schroder wrote:
See the /. article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/26/048221
regarding a fork of Gentoo. Decide for yourself on some ethics
questions raised http://www.zynot.org/info/fork.html
I find this very sad. Zach is not the first dev to
Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 14:48, Ernie Schroder wrote:
I find this very sad. Zach is not the first dev to leave like this. It
would seem like the Chief Architect is not easy to work with.
I do hope that my favourite distribution does not go the way of Caldera.
Peter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:09:13AM -0400, Jason Gouger wrote:
You really can't make any assumptions like that without hearing both
sides of the story. The article posted on slashdot was rather one sided
Making assumptions based on a slashdot article is kinda like making
assumptions on the
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From: Jason Gouger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:09 AM
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You really can't make any assumptions like that without hearing both
sides of the story. The article posted on slashdot
The article only contains some links. What's on those links matters. Up
until now, there are two persons(look at the footnote) speaking not very
pleasant about gentoo's top developers... I wonder how many else would
show up eventually...
I see that Zachary T Welch has offered Daniel Robbins a
Hello All,
A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork:
Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to be making any
money from Gentoo? That's the impression I'm getting from all of this. Feel
free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, if that's the case, what's to stop this
It is in the gentoo-dev mailing list ... I don't know where the archives
are.
Tom Veldhouse
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From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:39 AM
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On Thursday 26 June 2003 10
On Thursday 26 June 2003 12:29 pm, Timothy James Friesen wrote:
Hello All,
A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork:
Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to be
making any money from Gentoo? That's the impression I'm getting from
all of this. Feel free to
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From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fork of Gentoo?
On Thursday 26 June 2003 10:19 am, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
There is a thread running in Dev, and Daniels response certainly
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 13:40, Mike Principito wrote:
To clear up some of the confusion here is the link to the devel-thread
with Daniel's response. I agree that the /. article is very one sided.
Hopefully this can clear up some worries.
A couple of thoughts regarding the recent fork:
Did the person that forked fork it because he wasn't going to
be making any
money from Gentoo? That's the impression I'm getting from
all of this. Feel
free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Not from what I can tell, he seemed to think that
Gentoo is going non-profit.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:06:40 +0200
Andreas Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2003 17:54, Thomas T. Veldhouse
wrote:
In Dev - Daniel stated he would not defend himself, but
that he would win
if he did. He denied nothing in particular and then
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fork of Gentoo?
Gentoo is going non-profit.
Says who?
Tom Veldhouse
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Gentoo is going non-profit.
Says who?
Tom Veldhouse
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Gentoo is going non-profit.
Says who?
Tom Veldhouse
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Wow this whole fork thing is getting big. I was just
wondering if I got this whole story right.
Trying to figure out what exactly a fork is. Is that
when they take the source code of a distro and make
their own out of it? Thats the conclusion that I came
up with after reading. Also, by my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Thomas T. Veldhouse}
Thursday 26 June 2003 01:41 pm
It is in the gentoo-dev mailing list ... I don't know where the archives
are.
Try:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Norberto
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Yes, a fork is where someone(s) takes a distro and decides to go in another
direction. Sort of like the Secure Hardened Gentoo - it's based on Gentoo
but has been setup to achieve a specific purpose.
I don't see where it will effect Gentoo. Gentoo will be gentoo and will
continue. As far as
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 19:08, Norberto BENSA wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Thomas T. Veldhouse}
Thursday 26 June 2003 01:41 pm
It is in the gentoo-dev mailing list ... I don't know where the
archives are.
Try:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
The requested
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't:
www.mandrakelinux.com
a fork of
www.redhat.com
?
Did the latter go out of business as a result?
Hell, I'm typing this up on Mac OS X which is a fork of BSD.
Debian has forks too. Must I go on?
There's really nothing to worry about here guys.
|eppy
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