Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Tony Clark
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 23.52, Scharf Yuval wrote: > Nicolas, If you are reffering to hdb you are wrong because there is no > device there. > > So, If I sum up your answers then my HD is capable of 30MB/s. > The UDMA(100) is a sales persons trick. > My bus is 33Mhz and it is not holding back my H

RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Bjorn Sodergren
> So, If I like to buy a new motherboard and a new HD, what > should I buy? Assume that I would like to get the best a > person might expect from a home computer. Another issue holding back IDE performance is that the IDE bus is sometimes tied into the PCI bus which is limited to 128mb/sec (giv

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
Ian Truelsen wrote: > > Probably the only way to get significantly better performance is by > going to SCSI. > IDE RAID could also be a ( cheaper ) solution. -- Nicolas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:52:01 +0300 (IDT) Scharf Yuval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nicolas, If you are reffering to hdb you are wrong because there is no > device there. > > So, If I sum up your answers then my HD is capable of 30MB/s. > The UDMA(100) is a sales persons trick. > My bus is 33Mhz a

RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Rex Young
>Rex Young wrote: >> I think that you're stuck on the 33MHz. Don't be. I >believe that they all >> operate >> at 33MHz where they are UDMA 100, UDMA 133, etc. 33MHz is >the speed that >> this bus >> operates at. > >I think you are wrong too :-P > >The size of the IDE bus ( 16 bits ) didn't cha

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 21:05, Scharf Yuval wrote: > Hello, > > Can someone explain to me the following log messages from the kernel: > > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx > ICH2: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9 > ICH2: chipset revision 2 > ICH2: not

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Scharf Yuval
Nicolas, If you are reffering to hdb you are wrong because there is no device there. So, If I sum up your answers then my HD is capable of 30MB/s. The UDMA(100) is a sales persons trick. My bus is 33Mhz and it is not holding back my HD. So, If I like to buy a new motherboard and a new HD, what sh

RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Scharf Yuval
I get between 27MB/s and 30MB/s Yuval Scharf On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I don't understand your answer Nicolas. > > Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. > > What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is > > capable of 100MB/s a

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
Rex Young wrote: > I think that you're stuck on the 33MHz. Don't be. I believe that they all > operate > at 33MHz where they are UDMA 100, UDMA 133, etc. 33MHz is the speed that > this bus > operates at. I think you are wrong too :-P The size of the IDE bus ( 16 bits ) didn't change since quit

RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Jason . Santos
> Hello, > > I don't understand your answer Nicolas. > Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. > What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is > capable of 100MB/s and the bus holds it back. Does it mean > that with a newer motherboard my HD will work much faster? >

RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Rex Young
>Hello, > >I don't understand your answer Nicolas. >Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. >What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is capable of >100MB/s and the bus holds it back. Does it mean that with a newer >motherboard my HD will work much faster? > >Yuval Sch

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread nmeyers
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:19:23AM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote: > Hello, > > I don't understand your answer Nicolas. > Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. He's saying you get 27MB/s because your drive is capable of that data rate. It doesn't matter how fast your bus is if that'

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
Scharf Yuval wrote: > Hello, > > I don't understand your answer Nicolas. > Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. > What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is capable of > 100MB/s and the bus holds it back. Does it mean that with a newer > motherboard my HD will wor

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hello, I don't understand your answer Nicolas. Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is capable of 100MB/s and the bus holds it back. Does it mean that with a newer motherboard my HD will work much faster? Yuval Scharf On

Re: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed

2003-08-19 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
Scharf Yuval wrote: > Hello, > > Can someone explain to me the following log messages from the kernel: > > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx > ICH2: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9 > ICH2: chipset revision 2 > ICH2: not 100% native mode: will probe ir