Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ? No. I'm so used to it I can't even imagine t

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > > > I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone s

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:06 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ? No

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerging procmail failure

2009-06-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:04:33 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > man ebuild > I see no hits at all on either `overlay' or `layman' in man ebuild. > There must be more to the story than just running ebuild commands. And > expect the modified ebuild to be accepted by emerge. That's because the instruct

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk > activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute > while without LVM they give sub-second responses.) Hmm, that's strange. I've never see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge > > -auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild. > > You might have to enable python in a few packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > > I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk > > activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute > > while without LVM they give su

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:49:02 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > or you never 'saw' the impact because you are used to it. Errh, no. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:39 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I recommend putting "-python" in your make.conf followed by "emerge -auDN world" and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild. You might hav

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:40 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute while without LVM they give sub-second respo

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/9 Mick : > 2009/6/9 Mick : >> 2009/6/9 Philip Webb : >> >>> After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files >>> I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. >>> I swapped to my KDE version of  ~/.xinitrc  & then did 'startx' >>> & yes the desktop menus &

[gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
Hi, I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv Helvetica:style=Oblique Helvetica:style=Bold Helvetica:style=Regular Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system. Nevertheless, they don't show

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:17:37 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > It's only there where's disk activity. For example, if I have 4 or more > torrents downloading. When that happens, typing "mc" (to start midnight > commander) needs about 4 seconds. It's almost instant without LVM. > > The speed

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 04:52 PM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:17:37 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: It's only there where's disk activity. For example, if I have 4 or more torrents downloading. When that happens, typing "mc" (to start midnight commander) needs about 4 seconds. It's al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerging procmail failure

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Paul Hartman writes: > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>> Yes... except _OH CRAP_ I've forgotten whatever little tiny skill I once >>> had to add a patch into the emerge process manually. >> >> man ebuild >> >> HT

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible > and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need > to get emerge world to run and complete. It looks like this is all sorted out in t

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb: > Hi, > > I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: > > ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv > Helvetica:style=Oblique > Helvetica:style=Bold > Helvetica:style=Regular > Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique > > It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my s

[gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata drive connected to the onboard sata controller. The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the root

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: > Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata > drive connected to the onboard sata controller. > > The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which > is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel n

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 17:32:18 schrieb walt: > I've tried using a disk label in fstab instead of a device name, but the > problem is that the kernel mounts the wrong partition before it has a > chance to read fstab. fstab is the wrong place. It should be on the kernel command line (that thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Marco schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: >> >> ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv >> Helvetica:style=Oblique >> Helvetica:style=Bold >> Helvetica:style=Regular >> Helvetica:style=Bold Obl

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread bn
KH ha scritto: > I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a > one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one > because I don't no anything about how everything is working) what you > just wrote is the answer. Like what are your needs and what resurce

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience yet :) bn wrote: > KH ha scritto: > > >> I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a >> one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one >> because I don't no anything about

[gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
"emerge --depclean" always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage states: "Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept." However, if I have sys-kernel/gentoo-sources in wor

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Mick wrote: > I spoke too soon. > This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running > There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE > every time I want to use a KDE application ? > What's up with your KDE menu Philip? > Were you able to make the changes st

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Philip Webb wrote: > You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, > then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, > then reboot & see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. Actually, there are 2 possibilities, at user login & at reboot, so both need checking sep

[gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 06:46 PM, Marco wrote: how can i see if a font is a bitmap or a truetype? If it offers all sizes instead of only a few ones, it's truetype. If not, it's bitmap. I don't think a truetype version of Helvetica is in any portage package. You will have to grab the font from somew

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/11 Alexander Pilipovsky : > bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience > yet :) (try to avoid top-posts in this mailing list) I think it has already been suggested: Use logrotate to keep your logs down to a sensible size. Also, you may want to empty ccac

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:22:41 -0500 Paul Hartman wrote: > "emerge --depclean" always wants to remove all but the most recent > version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how > to exclude this package. The manpage states: > > "Packages that are part of the world set will al

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Boris Fersing
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 18:45, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:22:41 -0500 > Paul Hartman wrote: > >> "emerge --depclean" always wants to remove all but the most recent >> version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how >> to exclude this package. The manpage

[gentoo-user] Re: Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 07:22 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: "emerge --depclean" always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage states: "Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept." If y

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:03:31 +0200 Boris Fersing wrote: > did you read the first lines of this file ? > > # WARNING: default set configuration, DO NOT CHANGE. > # If you want to change anything redefine the relevant section in > # /etc/portage/sets.conf. Any changes to this file will be lost on

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian > Philipp wrote: >> Marco schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: >>> [...] >>> >>> It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system. >>> Nevertheless, they don't show u

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Jun 2009, at 16:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: ... The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the root device to

[gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when most commenters stress keeping the kernel as slim as possible? In the window we have 'If you have a system with only one CPU, like most personal c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/11/2009 07:22 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> "emerge --depclean" always wants to remove all but the most recent >> version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how >> to exclude this package. The manpage states:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: >> So, my question: Is there a way to tell depclean to never remove *any* >> version of gentoo-sources? > > That's where portage-2.2 sets find another use. > Just add following set to /usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf: > > [kernels] > clas

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: > Hi group, > > Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and > notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when > most commenters stress keeping the kernel as slim as possible? > > In the window we h

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
Stroller wrote: On 11 Jun 2009, at 16:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: ... The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the roo

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: >> Hi group, >> >> Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and >> notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when >> most commenters stress keeping the kernel as s

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Kelly Hirai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 the N270 is a single core with hyperthreading, which will apear as 2 cpus (with the same core id) in dmesg. k. Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: >> Hi group, >> >> Been tracking down other's kern config for 9

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: > On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: >>> Hi group, >>> >>> Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and >>> notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particu

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Maxim Wexler schrieb: > On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: >>> Hi group, >>> >>> Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and >>> notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when >>> most commenters

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote: > the N270 is a single core with hyperthreading, which will apear as 2 > cpus (with the same core id) in dmesg. Ah, I forgot about hyperthreading masquerading as multiple CPUs. In that case, Maxim can safely disable SMP if he wants to. I don't kn

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
walt wrote: Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata drive connected to the onboard sata controller. The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that for

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Norman Rieß
Grant schrieb: Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up host

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
>> Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) >> >> ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer >> booted >> up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am >> having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get >

[gentoo-user] wireless access point setup - bridging vs. routing (Was: Atheros kernel driver)

2009-06-11 Thread Stroller
On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:38, Grant wrote: ... I've almost got this working, but I don't know what to include in the /etc/conf.d/hostapd INTERFACES variable since I don't have a br0 device or configuration. Do I need one? If I leave INTERFACES empty and I don't start net.wlan0, I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Norman Rieß
What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can not connect to your wired systems. Tha

[gentoo-user] Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide" at http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/

[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards wrote: > I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth > FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop > and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. > > Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV > Install Gui

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
>>> What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a >>> wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is >>> quite usual though... >>> Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected >>> and >>> can not connect to your wire

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless access point setup - bridging vs. routing (Was: Atheros kernel driver)

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
I've almost got this working, but I don't know what to include in the /etc/conf.d/hostapd INTERFACES variable since I don't have a br0 device or configuration.  Do I need one?  If I leave INTERFACES empty and I don't start net.wlan0, I don't have a way to define the IP addr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth >> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop >> and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. >> >> Towards that

[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth >>> FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo >>> desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac >>> Mini. >>> >>> Towards that end I'm looking at the "Official Gentoo MythTV

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my "general purpose" Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:35:36 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > >> If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or > >> operation write back. > > > > It's just that I would have sworn I'd seen a pretty complete > > Gentoo MythTv HOWTO at some point, but I sure can't find it > > now.  [I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Graham Murray
Norman Rieß writes: > What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge > to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired > network. This is quite usual though... > Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are > connected and can not connect to y

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
On Thursday 11 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote: > 090611 Philip Webb wrote: > > You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, > > then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, > > then reboot & see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. > > Actually, there are 2 possibiliti