Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Nov 12, 2011 11:23 AM, "Michael Orlitzky" wrote: > > On 11/11/2011 10:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > >> And if I pull, none of my backed-up systems are secure because anyone > >> who breaks into the backup server has root read privileges on every > >> backed-up system and will thereby "gain f

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hardware thread

On Nov 11, 2011 9:13 PM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > > > On Nov 12, 2011 7:58 AM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > > > It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer > > than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use > > AMD before that, so I have no re

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On 11/11/2011 10:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> And if I pull, none of my backed-up systems are secure because anyone >> who breaks into the backup server has root read privileges on every >> backed-up system and will thereby "gain full root privileges quickly." > > IMO that depends on whether y

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On 11/11/2011 09:22 PM, Grant wrote: > > So if I push, I don't really have backups because anyone who breaks > into the backed-up system can delete all of its backups like this: > > rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 1s backup@12.34.56.78::/path/to/backup > > And if I pull, none of my backed-up sy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote: >> The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost tolerable. >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Nov 12, 2011 2:17 AM, "Florian Philipp" wrote: > > > > Just an illustration: My employer will soon do a PoC/Live Demo of this > > product: > > > > http://www.atempo.com/products/liveBackup/features.asp > > > > Only an 'agent' lives inside the employee's workstation. It pushes all > > writes to

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Nov 12, 2011 9:29 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > >> The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 > >> machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup > >> of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the > >> backups from the backup server

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote: The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost tolerable. < cough cough> Care to share how you did that little trick? I like to s

[gentoo-user] Re: UEFI specification

On 11/11/2011 11:45 PM, James wrote: Here is a quick description of how Redmond intends to taint the bios on new products: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new HP laptop (DV7-6178

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote: Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do user things but

[gentoo-user] Re: how can I disable renaming of root fs to "/dev/root"?

On 11/11/2011 07:37 PM, Jarry wrote: Hi, this is actually not problem but rather a matter of customs: My new fresh installed system shows root-fs in "df" as /dev/root, not actuall device (in my case /dev/md2). I think I coud get used to it, but some software still needs /dev/md2 (i.e. lilo), oth

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: Yes, Alan, you're right, I'm on a single-user machine. I apologize, I should have made it clear. Indeed, I can see that in a multi-users machine sudo is useful. I just don't agree on the Ubuntu policy of using sudo

[gentoo-user] Re: how to get rid of kernel modules?

On 11/11/2011 08:14 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 11, 2011 11:02 AM, "Nikos Chantziaras" mailto:rea...@arcor.de>> wrote: > > On 11/11/2011 04:16 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:51:04PM +0100, Jarry wrote >>> >>> Hi, >>> during testing I compiled kernel with some m

Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

On Fri, Nov 11 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for > no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails. Thank you florian, alan, michael, and mick. This list is one of gentoo's strongest advantages. To summarize the responses and

Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment

>The problem is that X is not installed. to install X, edit >/etc/make.conf and add VIDEO_CARDS="" and emerge >xorg-server or emerge xorg-x11 to get X > > Thanks, I hope it is all right without errors .

Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment

>Install kdm, modify /etc/conf.d/xdm, test it using /etc/init.d.xdm >start and turn kdm on permanently with rc-update > >good luck, >Mark > Ah,thank you ! It seems that what I worried about would not happen :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

>> The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 >> machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup >> of the compromised machine on the backup server.  I can rsync the >> backups from the backup server to another machine, but if the backups >> are delet

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment

2011/11/11 Lavender : > I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta. > When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx, > it can't work, output messages are below: >>xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time >>I use startx) does not exist >>/etc/X

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment

2011/11/11 Lavender : > I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta. > When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx, > it can't work, output messages are below: >>xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time >>I use startx) does not exist >>/etc/X

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hardware thread

On Nov 12, 2011 7:58 AM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer > than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use > AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances. > > I was thinking of something like an AMD 11

[gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment

I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta. When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx, it can't work, output messages are below: >xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time >I use startx) does not exist >/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc : line2 : /u

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI specification

2011/11/12 James : > Here is a quick description of how Redmond > intends to taint the bios on new products: > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy > > > So,  recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new > HP laptop (DV7-6178US). It

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On 11/11/2011 12:55 PM, Grant wrote: > > The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 > machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup > of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the > backups from the backup server to another mach

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:45:23 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > > What happens when there is that one thing they need to do that needs > > root privileges? Do you give them the root password and let them do > > what they want, or do you make that one operation available to them? > SETUID bit like /b

[gentoo-user] Another hardware thread

It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances. I was thinking of something like an AMD 1100T 6 core CPU, the new Bulldozers are expensive and initial

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Am 12.11.2011 01:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, >> if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the >> wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They wou

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > If my ftp server stats are anything to go by, Linux Mint is the one > power users are targeting right now. Number of downloads is a > significant % of number of Ubuntu downloads. How much of that is a knee-jerk reaction to Unity, Mint bei

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote: > > The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all > > the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost > > tolerable. > > < cough cough > Care to share how you did that little trick? I like > to see

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: > Yes, Alan, you're right, I'm on a single-user machine. I apologize, I > should have made it clear. Indeed, I can see that in a multi-users > machine sudo is useful. I just don't agree on the Ubuntu policy of > using sudo instead of root

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, > if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the > wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do > user things but nothing else. W

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI specification

On Friday 11 Nov 2011 21:45:08 James wrote: > Here is a quick description of how Redmond > intends to taint the bios on new products: > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot- > strategy This I believe is on the cards for MSWindows 8 onwards. > So, recentl

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Florian Philipp wrote: Am 12.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Dale: Florian Philipp wrote: Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale: If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done that on Linux a couple times with l

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Am 12.11.2011 00:36, schrieb Dale: [...] > > Now to figure out why the windows in Kubuntu have no borders and no > little X to close the window. < sighs > I hate the little details. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > That is a typical symptom that the window manager is not running (probably crashed whil

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Am 12.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Dale: > Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale: >>> If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that >>> keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done >>> that on Linux a couple times with little probl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

Grant Edwards wrote: The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost tolerable. < cough cough > Care to share how you did that little trick? I like to see the stuff scrolling up myself. Is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600 Dale wrote: ine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do user things but n

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I read a MacOSX FileVault disk from Linux?

On 10 November 2011 19:25, wrote: > I have a 5 year old Mac OS X laptop which died last night -- no lights, > nothing, as if the battery > and AC line were disconnected.  There's nothing on it which is a disaster to > lose, but there are > some things I'd like to get off.  Is it possible to plu

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Florian Philipp wrote: Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale: If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done that on Linux a couple times with little problems. I'm just not sure about winders to Linux.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

On Friday 11 Nov 2011 22:02:40 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale wrote: > > > > > >> Now to teach him how to update the thing. > > > > I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running > > Ubuntu and ended up r

Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

On Friday 11 Nov 2011 21:12:29 Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500 > > > > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, > >> for no good reason) and now the wired eth

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale wrote: > >> >> Now to teach him how to update the thing. > > I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running > Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. I use Ubuntu occasionally, and it's

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:14:57 -0500 Michael Mol wrote: > Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between > Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06. > Not sure.) > > While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary distros to > support new th

[gentoo-user] UEFI specification

Here is a quick description of how Redmond intends to taint the bios on new products: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new HP laptop (DV7-6178US). It would not boot the DVD. How can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100 Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: > > Then you must be using a single-user machine. Like your own laptop > > or desktop. > > > > sudo is absolutely necessary on any multi-user machine unless you > > like security holes. > > > > Instead of bashing sudo, it's better to find

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600 Dale wrote: > ine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, > if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the > wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do > user things but nothing else. >

Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500 > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, >> for no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails. >> >>     ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 re

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale: > > If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that > keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done > that on Linux a couple times with little problems. I'm just not sure > about winders to Linux. > I suggest us

Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, > for no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails. > > ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart > * Bringing up interface eth0 > * ERROR: int

Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

Am 11.11.2011 21:28, schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for > no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails. > > ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart > * Bringing up interface eth0 > * ERROR: interface eth0 do

[gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails

My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails. ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart * Bringing up interface eth0 * ERROR: interface eth0 does not exist * Ensure that you have loaded the cor

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Michael Mol wrote: Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06. Not sure.) While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary distros to support new things, it's been suffering more and more (and

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:54 +0100 Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: I don't use sudo on my rig so it sort of annoys me. ;-) I guess we have that in common. lol The update tool is GUI. That's why I think he can do that himself. A lot like winders in a way. Heck, if this work

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 11 Nov 2011 07:37:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Thu, November 10, 2011 8:03 pm, Dale wrote: >> >> >> >> > Any tips or tricks on Kubuntu anyone?  Sort of a basic 'this is how you >> > update/install something for idiots' type thing.  lol >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

> Then you must be using a single-user machine. Like your own laptop or > desktop. > > sudo is absolutely necessary on any multi-user machine unless you like > security holes. > > Instead of bashing sudo, it's better to find out what problem it is > designed to solve, then determine if you have tha

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Friday 11 Nov 2011 07:37:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thu, November 10, 2011 8:03 pm, Dale wrote: > > > > > Any tips or tricks on Kubuntu anyone? Sort of a basic 'this is how you > > update/install something for idiots' type thing. lol > > I think Sabayon would be a better option, but if yo

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:54 +0100 Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: > >> I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend > >> running Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It > >> wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the management of > >> it seemed so different fr

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

Am 11.11.2011 19:56, schrieb Pandu Poluan: > > On Nov 12, 2011 1:39 AM, "Grant" > wrote: >> >> >> A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the >> >> data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a >> >> push-style layout where the

Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere

Am 11.11.2011 11:16, schrieb Willie Wong: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> (i) What is icedtea-web? >> >> If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s >> output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point >> right at the s

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Nov 12, 2011 1:39 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > >> A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the > >> data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a > >> push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup > >> server. Public SSH keys for the 3 m

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

>> A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the >> data from 3 machines to a backup server.  I decided to use a >> push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup >> server.  Public SSH keys for the 3 machines are stored on the backup >> server and rest

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Grant wrote: >> [snip] >> >>> The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 >>> machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup >>> of the compromised machine on the backup server.  I can rsync the >>> backups from the b

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

> [snip] > >> The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 >> machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup >> of the compromised machine on the backup server.  I can rsync the >> backups from the backup server to another machine, but if the backups >

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Nov 12, 2011 12:58 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the > data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a > push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup > server. Public SSH keys for the 3 machines are

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Grant wrote: [snip] > The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3 > machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup > of the compromised machine on the backup server.  I can rsync the > backups from the backup serve

[gentoo-user] {OT} Are "push" backups flawed?

A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup server. Public SSH keys for the 3 machines are stored on the backup server and restricted to the r

[gentoo-user] how can I disable renaming of root fs to "/dev/root"?

Hi, this is actually not problem but rather a matter of customs: My new fresh installed system shows root-fs in "df" as /dev/root, not actuall device (in my case /dev/md2). I think I coud get used to it, but some software still needs /dev/md2 (i.e. lilo), other does not find /dev/md2 anymore and

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the management of it seemed so different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't want to deal

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

>> I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running >> Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it >> was bad or didn't work, but that the management of it seemed so >> different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't want to deal >> with learn

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Dale wrote: > I have noticed the same points you found.  I set up the user "cutie" during > the install.  I logged in as cutie then did sudo su -.  That got me to root > user.  Yeppie ! Then I did passwd and typed in a root password.  After that, > I could login a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale wrote: Now to teach him how to update the thing. Dale :-) :-) I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale wrote: > > Now to teach him how to update the thing. > > Dale > > :-)  :-) > > I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I read a MacOSX FileVault disk from Linux?

get your disk out and mount it on a kernel which config support mac fs may be work . 在 2011-11-11 凌晨3:25， 写道： > > I have a 5 year old Mac OS X laptop which died last night -- no lights, nothing, as if the battery > and AC line were disconnected. There's nothing on it which is a disaster to lose, b

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: So, what is a easy to install distro that has KDE4, Seamonkey, gtkam, GIMP and such? I want something easy Well, surely Kubuntu would be a nice choice, but can I suggest OpenSuse? I installed it something like two years ago (I was curious) and I liked it. It has a well-d

Re: [gentoo-user] Something weird and I'm confused. BIOS and SATA is empty

J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tue, November 8, 2011 10:33 am, Dale wrote: The only report that raccoon will give is a bright flash of light. Shorting out 250,000 volts sort of puts a period on the end of the briefest report there has ever been. Those lines are the TVA lines that come from a few hundr

Re: [gentoo-user] Something weird and I'm confused. BIOS and SATA is empty

On Tue, November 8, 2011 10:33 am, Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Mon, November 7, 2011 1:32 pm, Dale wrote: >>> All this from a raccoon knocking out power. Pesky critter. >> Raccoons are doing some behaviour studies in your area, didn't you get >> the >> memo? :) >> >> -- >> Joost >> > >

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro

Dale wrote: > Hi, > > This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on > my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I > don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with > a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a

Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Willie Wong wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >  (i) What is icedtea-web? >> >> If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s >> output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point >> r

[gentoo-user] Re: vimmanpager for MANPAGER not working?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 17:26, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Anyone successful in using vimmanpager as MANPAGER? > > I keep getting ANSI control char gobbledegook in "man man" if I use > the provided vimmanpager script (USE="vimpager" emerge > app-editors/vim) > > However, I tried Rafael Kitover's vimpage

Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:00:51AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > Well, while Willie picks himself up after being slammed like this (Had > bad day, Alan?), I might add that the only reason why portage wants to > emerge icedtea and icedtea-bin is that apparently virtual/jre:1.7 has > been keyworded

[gentoo-user] vimmanpager for MANPAGER not working?

Anyone successful in using vimmanpager as MANPAGER? I keep getting ANSI control char gobbledegook in "man man" if I use the provided vimmanpager script (USE="vimpager" emerge app-editors/vim) However, I tried Rafael Kitover's vimpager replacement from here: https://github.com/rkitover/vimpager .

Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > (i) What is icedtea-web? > > If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s > output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point > right at the start of the page that icedtea-web is mostly Jav

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2011 5:17 AM, "Paul Hartman" > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dale wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes.  I want to install Linux on >> > my >> > brothers rig.  The heat sink on t

Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere

>> Or maybe the build system is stable enough for general use. If someone >> can share some experience with the source build, I'd like to hear about it. >> > > The build system of the source build, of course. Well, it works, and my impression is that it's a bit faster than icedtea-6 (the build sy