Re: [gentoo-user] Noah's ArK

2019-11-17 Thread Andrew Udvare
> On 2019-11-17, at 06:19, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I'd like to "preserve" some packages which do require components I don't like > to have "regularly" installed any more like some depending on Python2 or are > 32bit. For Python (any version), use wheels: https://pypi.org/project/wheel/

[gentoo-user] app-emulation/libguestfs-1.38.6 fails to build

2019-11-17 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, attempting to build libguestfs-1.38.6 failed. build.log showed a complaint about not able to find libcrypt.so.2. So I looked for that one. It was in /lib/xcrypt and /lib64/xcrypt, but not in /lib or /lib64. It was defined so: libcrypt.so.2 -> libcrypt.so.2.0.0 So I copied the

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > Den 17.11.2019 12:22, skrev Dale: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:50:08 +, Mick wrote: >>> > Magic SysReq would probably have helped in those situations. ext3/4 > only journal metadata by default, you can specify a mount option to >

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
On 11/17/19 16:06, Mick wrote: You keep top-posting and inverting the logical Q/A flow of this thread ... On Sunday, 17 November 2019 12:53:51 GMT n952162 wrote: Ah, now I see. Yes, in that respect, that is, if you don't have a chance to get /forcefsck written. Running fsck manually with

Re: [gentoo-user] Noah's ArK

2019-11-17 Thread Mickaël Bucas
Hi If it's only for Python 2 packages, it's easy with "virtualenv", I've done it for multiple independent Trac installations, each with a different set of plugins. You still have to keep the Python 2 base packages on the system. If it's for 32 bits packages, you can isolate them in a chroot,

[gentoo-user] Re: problem with named restarting

2019-11-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-11-17 06:00, John Covici wrote: > On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:12:53 -0500, > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > > It looks like a bug. Can you build with -g and without stripping? > > Hmmm, I have split-debug on and I thought I had -g in my flags, but I > will check. Does it go in CFLAGS .etc?

[gentoo-user] Re: daemon fox?

2019-11-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-11-17 10:28, Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:24:34 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Is it possible to start firefox as a daemon, ie. without opening any > > windows, and later connect to it as needed to display URLs? I have > > in mind something similar to "emacs --daemon". >

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 17.11.2019 12:22, skrev Dale: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:50:08 +, Mick wrote: Magic SysReq would probably have helped in those situations. ext3/4 only journal metadata by default, you can specify a mount option to also journal data but it impacts performance. When

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Mick
You keep top-posting and inverting the logical Q/A flow of this thread ... On Sunday, 17 November 2019 12:53:51 GMT n952162 wrote: > Ah, now I see. Yes, in that respect, that is, if you don't have a > chance to get /forcefsck written. Running fsck manually with various options and then trying

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
Ah, now I see.  Yes, in that respect, that is, if you don't have a chance to get /forcefsck written. On 11/17/19 13:23, Dale wrote: n952162 wrote: How do you fix a broken filesystem, other than letting fsck have its way with it? The point is, don't touch it until you do.  If you boot a

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > How do you fix a broken filesystem, other than letting fsck have its way > with it? The point is, don't touch it until you do.  If you boot a system from the hard drive, it has to be touched and you don't know what condition it is in when your system has crashed in some way.  If

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
How do you fix a broken filesystem, other than letting fsck have its way with it? On 11/17/19 12:39, Dale wrote: n952162 wrote: I'm not seeing how doing an fsck from a live cd helps. Generally speaking, something ends up being mounted rw and if it isn't clean, that can cause issues that may

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > I'm not seeing how doing an fsck from a live cd helps. > Generally speaking, something ends up being mounted rw and if it isn't clean, that can cause issues that may have been fixable before to become issues that are no longer fixable.  This is why a lot of people put a rescue

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
On 11/17/19 10:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:27:48 +0100, n952162 wrote: There's a million ways a system can hang.  Acpi is a mechanism for shipping kernel events to user space.  If user space isn't working, acpi won't work.   I think. But if it's just X that is locked, then

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
On 11/17/19 11:30, Neil Bothwick wrote: Please don't top-post on this list. Magic SysReq would probably have helped in those situations. ext3/4 only journal metadata by default, you can specify a mount option to also journal data but it impacts performance. I wonder how often NTFS

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
I'm not seeing how doing an fsck from a live cd helps. On 11/17/19 11:50, Mick wrote: On Sunday, 17 November 2019 10:30:49 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:21:18 +0100, n952162 wrote: (in fact, that's exactly the situation that I've been confronted with and have turned to this

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:50:08 +, Mick wrote: > >>> Magic SysReq would probably have helped in those situations. ext3/4 >>> only journal metadata by default, you can specify a mount option to >>> also journal data but it impacts performance. >> When X hangs and I lose

[gentoo-user] Noah's ArK

2019-11-17 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I'd like to "preserve" some packages which do require components I don't like to have "regularly" installed any more like some depending on Python2 or are 32bit. Is there a means to build a "mini binary system" where I can put these? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:50:08 +, Mick wrote: > > Magic SysReq would probably have helped in those situations. ext3/4 > > only journal metadata by default, you can specify a mount option to > > also journal data but it impacts performance. > > When X hangs and I lose the keyboard to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with named restarting

2019-11-17 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:12:53 -0500, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2019-09-19 14:23, John Covici wrote: > > > Sep 18 22:25:45 ccs.covici.com named[4207]: resolver.c:4917: > > INSIST(dns_name_issubdomain(>name, >domain)) failed, back trace > > Sep 18 22:25:45 ccs.covici.com named[4207]: #0

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Mick
On Sunday, 17 November 2019 10:30:49 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:21:18 +0100, n952162 wrote: > > (in fact, that's exactly the situation that I've been confronted with > > and have turned to this mailing list to help me with: X locked up, my > > power-button was unresponsive

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:27:48 +0100, n952162 wrote: > >> There's a million ways a system can hang.  Acpi is a mechanism for >> shipping kernel events to user space.  If user space isn't working, acpi >> won't work.   I think. > But if it's just X that is locked, then ACPI

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:21:18 +0100, n952162 wrote: > (in fact, that's exactly the situation that I've been confronted with > and have turned to this mailing list to help me with: X locked up, my > power-button was unresponsive so I had to force it down (holding the > power key down for 30

Re: [gentoo-user] daemon fox?

2019-11-17 Thread Mick
On Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:24:34 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Is it possible to start firefox as a daemon, ie. without opening any > windows, and later connect to it as needed to display URLs? I have in > mind something similar to "emacs --daemon". Wouldn't such a behaviour have security

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
(in fact, that's exactly the situation that I've been confronted with and have turned to this mailing list to help me with: X locked up, my power-button was unresponsive so I had to force it down (holding the power key down for 30 seconds), and on reboot TWO filesystems had to be rebuilt by fsck,

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
And - although hitting the power button will clear up some situations, if your hard disk is having trouble closing, shutdown() probably won't be able to get around that and the shutdown will be like a power-loss shutdown. On 11/17/19 10:27, n952162 wrote: There's a million ways a system can

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:27:48 +0100, n952162 wrote: > There's a million ways a system can hang.  Acpi is a mechanism for > shipping kernel events to user space.  If user space isn't working, acpi > won't work.   I think. But if it's just X that is locked, then ACPI could be used to rescue the

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread n952162
There's a million ways a system can hang.  Acpi is a mechanism for shipping kernel events to user space.  If user space isn't working, acpi won't work.   I think. On 11/17/19 09:44, Dale wrote: n952162 wrote: okay, I've got ... acpid is, by default, not in the default openrc run list

Re: [gentoo-user] power button to shutdown for openrc? [SOLVED]

2019-11-17 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > > okay, I've got ... > > acpid is, by default, not in the default openrc run list   [:blush:] > > Solution: > >     sudo rc-update add acpid > > > On 11/13/19 07:48, n952162 wrote: >> >> I've reinstalled gentoo from the gentoo repository and now my power >> button doesn't do a