Re: [gentoo-user] Chrony-2.2 failing

such file after running ebuild $(equery w > chrony) prepare. > Doe sit fail consistently? IOW, now that everything else has settled down, does "/etc/init.d/chrony start" still fail? What about logs? If none, you can inspect the start-stop-daemon line in the init file, get the co

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge order not deterministic !?

parallel processing works this way. What is deterministic, is that if you build the same set of packages twice and even if portage does them in different order, the binaries produced are functionally identical -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge order not deterministic !?

On 12/11/2015 10:29, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 11/11/2015 21:35, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> Ongoing installation. I looked at 2 instances of >>> "emerge -pv x11-base/xorg-server" and the order was somewhat different. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Emerge order not deterministic !?

On 12/11/2015 10:48, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 12/11/2015 10:29, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/11/2015 21:35, Walter Dnes wrote: >>>>> Ongoing installation. I looked at 2 instances

Re: [gentoo-user] AC WiFi Card

hare stuff with you? An AP handles this much better than trying to get a workstation to do it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

ast I've wondered how portage tree updates and rsync servers > are managed so that people don't run into problems like this more > often. > The dev are doing some $MAGIC to reinstate ChangeLogs and the first run is expected to take a while (i.e. several hours). I suppose you can expect some breakage till it finishes. It's being discussed and tracked on gentoo-dev, you can drop a mail there with specifics to let the devs know what's happening. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox-bin GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed

in portage. > > ...and I'm for ever having to recompile chromium as it seems to change about > once a week. Not what you would call poorly supported. > Well the OP did say that the info came from "other forums" and we know how reliable those can be. I'd trust my mother-in-law's opinion on the state of Chromium before I trust $RANDOM_ARB_FORUM_ON_TEH_INTARWEBZ -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] compare string list and output like diff -u

On 11/11/2015 15:17, Wallance wrote: Hi,I want to compare two string list and output deltas like the output of $(diff -u).I want to implement this in C/C++ language.Any suggestions will be welcome.For better,I want a library which can do this. Thanks again. That's a programming question.

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning

he key or the password is not enough to become root, an attacker must have both. Allowing root logins directly over the network is considered bad practice, due to the "one mistake = you lose" aspect. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning

On 10/11/2015 17:58, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/10/2015 10:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Maybe, but your argument isn't convincing. How am I better off doing it >>> your way (what is your way)? >> >> The most common way is to disallow all

Re: [gentoo-user] Better CPU for compiling with gcc

On 10/11/2015 21:07, Stanislav Nikolov wrote: > > > On 11/10/2015 08:55 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 10/11/2015 20:37, Stanislav Nikolov wrote: >>> >>> On 11/10/2015 08:17 PM, Mick wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 10 Nov 2015 17:47:08 Stanislav Nikolov wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] Better CPU for compiling with gcc

ine, buy the best collection of stuff that works together well and still fits the budget. If you want a machine that you can use and be happy with, ignoree the temptation to must have the biggest baddest fastest CU (you will never get to use all that big bad fast) and invest rather in gobs of RAM and an SSD. Remember that apps are launched many times more than they are compiled. Or put another way, sacrifice compilation times t get something you can use. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning

On 10/11/2015 11:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Jeff. On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 08:26:27PM -0700, Jeff Smelser wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: A major upgrade to OpenSSH is being stabilized:

Re: [gentoo-user] oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0 - Fetch Restriction

uncated or interrupted. It's too small: # ls -al /var/distfiles/jdk-8u66-linux-x64.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 alan portage 181287376 Oct 23 14:13 /var/distfiles/jdk-8u66-linux-x64.tar.gz Download the tar.gz again -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Using portage to install packages in home dir

> already uses Gentoo, and therefore doesn't need Prefix. > > s/Gentoo/Prefix/g There you go, fixed in one command. Easy! Next question please. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] printing problems

ou may have to select something. > > None of this may help but maybe one will. May be worth a shot. ;-) That's my experience too. I print very little by for ages now everytime a change was made to a printer or cups (even teeny minor ones), I'd delete and re-add all printers plus restart cups. Why does cups behave like this? Buggered if I know. I have an unexpressable opinion based on a certain fruity vendor who seems better at suing Samsung than actually writing code -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Select default repository in make.conf?

lete a symlink for it while needed. If the master file is in /path/to/homenet and you are at home: ln -sfn /path/to/homenet/homenet.conf /etc/portage/repos.conf/ emerge ... Disclainmer: completely untested, I only describe a bizarre idea that popped into mind -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] media_build fails on Gentoo 4.2 machine....

dy done the heavy lifting of deps and so on. make your life easier. http://gpo.zugaina.org/media-tv/media-build-experimental from more info -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc upgrade and firefox/seamonkey issues

> It is when you only use it once every year or two. Generally, it is > rare that I have to even go look at the emerge log file. This is likely > the first time I have looked in there in a good long while. Maybe over a > year. Sometimes, I wonder if I even need the thing. Of course you need it - genlop won't work without it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I change an X keyboard layout?

screen runs in a shell, and the output goes to whatever the shell is using for that. Same as bash, ssh and so on all do - display device agnostic. > > No, what I really want is a way to go from X (XFCE for me) directly to > any virtual terminal. At the moment, if I want to go to, say, tty14, > I've first got to go to a lower numbered tty, and then to tty14. It's > one of these little annoyances which is scarcely worth bothering about, > but it _is_ an annoyance. > > I'll continue searching. > > Thanks for the post! > >> HTH >> -- >> Marc Joliet > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I suppress the bleep when shutting down?

seems to be no way to suppress the warning message. > [...] > > If it's caused by the call to wall(), then maybe the --no-wall option to > shutdown will help? I don't have that option in my ~arch shutdown -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How is /etc/portage/env supposed to work?

cat /etc/portage/env/mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0 LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS} -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/thunderbird,-rpath,/usr/lib/thunderbird/components" The dir and version structure of env/- is compared to what is being merged (IIRC $P, $PN, $PV all work) and the env in the file is applied. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I suppress the bleep when shutting down?

monotone speaker that can only make bing noises and has been in pc's since the first one? Is this happening inside a DE session, or from a virtual console? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Porblems with nvidia-settings vs. nvidia-drivers: Up-/downgrade race condition

On 17/10/2015 18:42, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [15-10-17 18:24]: >> On 17/10/2015 16:59, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Heiko Baums <li...@baums-on-web.de> [15-10-17 15:44]: >>>> Am 17.10.2015 um 13:07 schrieb me

Re: [gentoo-user] Porblems with nvidia-settings vs. nvidia-drivers: Up-/downgrade race condition

gt; Am I lost? ;) With the tree currently as-is, yes. vtk blindly pulls in nvidia-settings: RDEPEND=" ... video_cards_nvidia? ( media-video/nvidia-settings ) Which is a bit of a blunt weapon - saying nvidia in make.conf gives you nvidia-settings regardless of anything else. I would suggest removing nvidia-drivers from world, putting nvidia-settings in instead. This will enforce that you only get drivers packages that are compatible with settings. Any ebuild that tries to update drivers to latest without a matching settings will run into a blocker. Ideal of course would be nvidia-settings is always in step with nvidia-drivers then this problem just never arises. Why those two are eternally out of step is beyond me. > > > Best regards, > Meino > > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Porblems with nvidia-settings vs. nvidia-drivers: Up-/downgrade race condition

odbc -offscreen -postgres -python -qt4 -smp -tbb > {-test} -theora -views -web -xdmf2" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" > VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" > [ebuild N~] media-video/nvidia-settings-355.11::gentoo USE="-examples > -gtk3" 0 KiB > > > Am I lost? ;) Update: I see at least the latest nvidia-drivers (358.09) includes nvidia-settings. If that driver supports your hardware, you can unmerge nvidia-settings, put nvidia-drivers back in world and the whole problem goes away -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Technical imap mail question

't know what they are doing. Who knows why they communicate some of the things they do, because I sure don't. That, unfortunately, is the average state of affairs today. This might well not be the case for your ISP, but like you I can't see a good reason to use a different name for outbound mail. Have you asked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'emerge --update @world -pv' keeps trying to upgrade to a masked package

gt; > I started to post that it looked like some other package was pulling it > in but portage's output is sometimes cryptic at best. Sometimes I can > figure it out but usually, I have to get Alan or Neil to pull out their > magic decoder ring and uncrypt the thing. > > Anyway, glad you got it sorted out and all is well again. To figure out that "required by/pulled in by/installed" listing, you have to think like a programmer. That whole listing is not so much portage telling you what it will do, it's portage telling you how it got to the point where there's a problem. Think of it like debugger output - emerge runs, there's a problem and the dev asks for a memory dump of the dep tree emerge has evaluated so far. A little bit lower you find the helpful hint the some judicious unmasking might get around it. But what's really missing is a clear message about a mask. Portage is often like a 10 year old telling you why they are upset. Lots of tears and wailing, but no real description of /why/... :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DNS server packages

On 12/10/2015 19:43, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > >>> I need to setup DNS primary/secondary systems on gentoo. So right now >>> I'm looking for a suggested list of packages to install with Bind, >>> iptables and DNSSEC-tools as

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS server packages

On 11/10/2015 10:18, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday, October 11, 2015 09:35:39 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 11/10/2015 04:13, James wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> So I now have (5) statics and a fiber feed, with lots of room to grow. >>> >>> I nee

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS server packages

rstand. DNS servers don't keep routes in memory - routers do that. Perhaps you mean cached DNS records? DNS is light on RAM, there are only so many records typical users will look up. DNS caches not too long ago ran for years problem free with a puny few hundred MB. It's not something to be worr

Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong domain in e-mail failure messages

erver is at the ISP, so not accessible to me. > > $ hostname -f > wstn.prhnet > > Any other ideas? > What's in /etc/hosts? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS server packages

On 11/10/2015 11:33, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:43:01 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 11/10/2015 10:18, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 09:35:39 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> On 11/10/2015 04:13, James wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

(~)6.0(5/6) The two versions in the || in the ebuild are the same, except one is SLOT 0 and the other 5, and neither have sub-slot 5. This is impossible to satisfy. OP can move past this by simply masking dev-util/android-studio-1.4.0.10.141.2288178-r1.ebuild, the end result on his system will be the same -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

On 11/10/2015 00:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 00:04:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> The only difference between those two ebuilds is a slight change in >>> the way the ncurses DEPEND is defined. It's hard to say more without >>> seeing the

Re: [gentoo-user] is zfs no longer compatible with systemd?

fs/udev-init-scripts-28" is blocking sys-fs/zfs-) Note the ">=" and that you are running zfs-. Problems like blockers are to be expected. The block is from zfs-, it's ebuild says it must block >=udev-init-scripts-28, obviously zfs only works with udev-init-scripts up to 27 (or 28 has ne

Re: [gentoo-user] strange TCP timeout errors

and i are in a row on the keyboard, shift and enter are adjacent, and you have a over-friendly cat? :-) > > -Original Message----- > From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 20:39:42 > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> > Reply-to: gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] strange TCP timeout errors

raph lives in the "network" section of the munin web interface. > There is no matching section in /etc/munin/plugin-conf.d/munin-node so > it should be be using the default config. > > Any ideas based on this new info? A few :-) I can't find the plugin that delivers that graph though. Maybe I just don't have it, maybe it comes from contrib/ What's your USE for munin? What do you have in "ls -al /etc/munin/plugins/" ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] persistent /run/* ownership/permissions

e dir has to be mkdir'ed somehow after reboot anyway. The initscript is the perfect place to do it. There's lots of examples in most /etc/init.d, so I suggest submit a working patch to b.g.o. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] strange TCP timeout errors

o DERIVE (/etc/munin/plugins/netstat_multi around line 190. I feel it should be GAUGE or COUNTER. The proper reference on rrd is http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdcreate.en.html and the munin docs are https://munin.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html You must edit the plugin file and IIRC recreate the rrd, you will lose all past info (can't be helped). [snip ls output] > P.S. Any other good plugins you'd recommend? http://gallery.munin-monitoring.org/ Monitoring is highly site-specific so recommendations aren't usually worth much, but that gallery has LOTS of contributed plugins -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg cpu flags

On 05/10/2015 18:25, Stroller wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 October 2015, at 11:38 p.m., Alan McKinnon >> <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I see that the ffmpeg ebuild requires that mmxext is set if sse is set. >>> >>> Isn't mmx

Re: [gentoo-user] strange TCP timeout errors

so and graph it. Qucik test is to look at the graph config. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg cpu flags

Gentoo sells. Take that away and all you have is a regular distro that really likes showing gcc output -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about initial/default ownership of /usr/portage

user alan, then all repos ($PORTDIR, local overlays, layman overlays) need to be owned by alan: if user* is not in FEATURES and everything gets run as root, then PORTDIR, DISTDIR and so on can be root:root. The point is, there really isn't a "owner:group /should/ be" rule for portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

you have good backups and can go without the data for a few days, there's no real harm is waiting till it really packs up. If drives are cheap where you are you might as well replace it now. I don't see any compelling reason in your case why you should do one or the other at this point. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using KDE apps in a non KDE environment

TK apps on a KDE desktop and it's very manageable. The main apps are handbrake, firefox, thunderbird. I see no reason why the opposite wouldn't also be true if the admin is smart -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Major site redesign, SEO, and 301 redirects

On 01/10/2015 13:35, Tanstaafl wrote: > Thanks Alan (and everyone else), > > One important follow-up below... > > On 9/29/2015 8:28 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> It would be wise to clarify with the devs exactly what it is they are >> look

Re: [gentoo-user] clean-up root partition

s you absolutely nothing. But it's the best answer I can give you until you read this: www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] clean-up root partition

ort -n -r | head -n 10 > > and found my /var/log/messages was over 5Gb Junk can accumulate in hundreds of places, it all depends how you set the host up. These are often culprits: /home/* /tmp/ /var/tmp/portage /usr/src -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Major site redesign, SEO, and 301 redirects

ding a small definite component of a larger system that you control and direct. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KDE apps in a non KDE environment

ng in just a few kde libraries, which I can > live with, but not the whole desktop environment? Yes. Remove all of KDE then emerge back in the apps you want, they have deps on the libs they need. Whatever they pull in is required. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Experiences with gtk3-nocsd?

in transition at the moment with upstream now moving to Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5, with most apps still stuck on 4 Okular is one of those very much still at 4 so if that's the only KDE app you'll use, it might be a smooth install. For now. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Vlc not playing audio

. As typing this, it occurred to me that in this case and my > original question, that it is user interface actions that cause the loss > of sound. Maybe there are still problems with the qt5 integration? vlc with plasma5 works fine for me here, I didn't have to do anything after upgrad

Re: [gentoo-user] Major site redesign, SEO, and 301 redirects

gt; > Would love to hear experiences (good and bad), and a recommendation for > what I should do. > > thanks > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Major site redesign, SEO, and 301 redirects

ill do that in their tender, and yours looks like a rather big tender. Lastly, get a second opinion of the changes they make. SEO tweaks can very easily get you blacklisted on search engines and a lot of methods out there are interpreted by Google as being dodgy. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

On 26/09/2015 17:00, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 20/09/2015 17:28, lee wrote: >>> Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:36:06 +0200, lee wrote: > >> [..

[gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

ave behind in portage? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

On 27/09/2015 17:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> So, my question: wtf are dynamic deps? How do I find the records they >> must leave behind in portage? > > For the latter question, you

Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

On 27/09/2015 19:26, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/27/2015 11:07 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Does anyone here know what dynamic deps are exactly, how they work and >> can describe them? >> >> There's lots of talk over on -dev about getting rid of them and the >

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

your issues with portage like they were some treasured memory of a long-since departed loved one, while all the time apparently ignoring the correct valid solutions offeered by kind folks on this list. Let it go. The devs know about portage output. I don't see you submitting patches though. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

On 28/09/2015 00:21, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/27/2015 03:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> Now it all makes sense, as a bonus I now see why why so many senior devs >> are so pedantic about revbumps (they have reason). >> >> Now that I know what the sympto

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

On 26/09/2015 11:47, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >>>> >>>> dev-libs/boost:0

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

*using* it is often a one-way street, especially if deps got in the mix. Portage can't unwind the most recent merges so you have to rely on a side-effect - hoping that portage will notice your package of X isn't in the current tree then will downgrade it to one that is. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc & more

On 24/09/2015 20:12, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:58:44 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 25/08/2015 19:43, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: >>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:30:09 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Ro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

er meters, ones with screens and graphs. That's what the headroom is for - how much extra power can be delivered in very brief spikes (<100ms or so) when the hardware really needs it? If the PSU is weak in this area and can't deliver the full power, the load will still try to draw the current, and the voltage must drop to compensate. Simple physics. Either way, your 450W PSU might not be up to the job when push really comes to shove for your hardware. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update problems

On 22/09/2015 18:42, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:03:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> The intended workflow is that if you emerge something, you know what it >> is, you don't have to make further decisions about it and you want it in >> world. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update problems

On 22/09/2015 18:39, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > > >>> I'll add --oneshot to the EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS= in make.conf. > >>>> I sometimes wonder why that isn't the default way. I guess because it >>>> would confuse folk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update problems

Why would you want to have stuff around for extended periods that is not in world? If you have a package that you no longer want (as you know what is in your world right), unmerge it with -C Don't make life difficult for yourself. It's MUCH easier to know what's in world than to try and remember what should be and isn't. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Haskell packages and keeptemp

iles, not just the elog output, do you have those in > /var/log/portage? That's not quite what PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM does. That is for elogs, not build logs. You need this: PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] mpv upgrade warning

gible" as its first definition of > Readable, and "clear enough to be deciphered" as its first definition of > Legible. > > * Actually I think it was the ODE (the Oxford Dictionary of English), which > has been criticised widely and is not their best dictionary. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

nc', or to when things were at > the particular hash. > > The last sync I did before the one yesterday wasn't the day before > yesterday but over three months ago, so don't ask me today (or next > weekend or whenever I give it another try) when that exactly was. See > what I mean? Asking me to mask all packages to a certain point in time > is like asking me to do much of the package management by myself. Exactly. You DO need to do the package management yourself. The Gentoo devs provide useful tools in the form of portage and the tree with it's ebuilds and eclasses, plus some amazing automation. But, are here's the bit where so many people move away from Gentoo: You are required to do the management yourself, including most of the thinking and all of the sweeping up of broken pieces. That's what you signed up for when using Gentoo. If you want to roll back the tree, then you need to implement a solution that will let you do it as Gentoo does nto provide one. Git now makes this easier. However, tree rollbacks are inadvisable for excellent technical reasons - see if you can figure them out. Better to snapshot your entire system and revert the snapshot if it goes south. > Should I make feature requests? No. See Rich's mail -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] mpv upgrade warning

to Chambers, which includes "legible" as its first definition >> of Readable, and "clear enough to be deciphered" as its first >> definition of Legible. > > I have a proper printed OED, all 1800 pages of it. If you don't have it in the morning anymore, it's becau

Re: [gentoo-user] mpv upgrade warning

isk. > > -- > Regards > wabe > > > > Strictly speaking, you don't have to do that with UUIDs as you can > change it to match the old one. That big advantage of labels is that > they are human-readable. Well I can read UUIDs, they are hex gibberish but still rea

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

ide-effect of having choice. > > What do I do when I need to update /right now/ and find myself being > blocked with cryptic messages like the above that leave me stranded? > Once I used 'emerge --sync', there is no way to turn it back to continue > to be able to install software if needed when the update cannot be > performed. Updates simply need to work, there's no way around that. You seem unwilling to do what it takes to run Gentoo properly. I suggest you delete your Gentoo systems and install Fedora instead. Gentoo is obviously not for you. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

> Of course! I'm so used to dealing with portage output I always fail to spot the mere info messages that are not problems. Like now. I also never not see these things, I have "--verbose" in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS. Yes I know it clutters the screen and most of it is useless, but it also satisfies my OCD obsessions to know everything all the time -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

what it has in it's internal data structures when it decides it can't continue. It can't provide the user with a meaningful answer as is so often asked for here so what is it supposed to do? It's not a human. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] mpv upgrade warning

On 19/09/2015 21:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On 19 September 2015 20:11:31 BST, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 19/09/2015 20:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On 19 September 2015 19:55:45 BST, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] npm: ERR! cb() never called!

On 18/09/2015 00:48, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/17/2015 05:13 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> Slightly OT, but the general idea of package management isn't hard. >> >> Put the stuff you should have in a list, then compare what you should >> have to what you do

Re: [gentoo-user] npm: ERR! cb() never called!

lem kept coming up over and over: tests would fail, usually because the dev used some code buried deep in his own workstation, and that HAD NEVER BEEN RELEASED. Braindeaddeaddead -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't paste from selection in gtk-3 apps

other? If you can, then it's a single desktop. > > Yes, I can. > When I maximize a window, it's only on 1 screen. > > This is how it seems "right" to me. > > Why would I want it to be different? Eg. windows can't be moved between > screens? I don't see the point of having more than 1 screen in that case. There's a few reasons you might want more than one screen. Primary one is two heads and two video cards with different resolutions and dpi. Xinerama and big desktop et al will use the lower setting for both. Some folk have 2 screens just because they've always done it that way for years and don't want to change These days the usual case is one video card with more than one output so you connect identical monitors to each. For that, one big desktop makes sense. > > -- > Joost > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

e some cash now, and cause yourself enormous expense later -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo net0 - auto resetting - very impressed

On 17/09/2015 08:45, Stroller wrote: > > On Wed, 16 September 2015, at 7:22 am, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Their latest printers do not make that same >> stupid mistake; mine is a recent colour laser and the cheapest in the >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

On 17/09/2015 16:09, james wrote: > Huh? You really should stay in the E domain, for accuracy and not > confusing the readers. I'm not familiar with the term "E" For the rest, we seem to have diverged the plot somewhere. We agree. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] npm: ERR! cb() never called!

jquery.browser": "gabceb/jquery-browser-plugin#e4a01fd", "knockout": "mwiencek/knockout#a8f12df", "knockout-arraytransforms": "^2.0.0", "less-plugin-clean-css": "^1.4.0", "leven": "^1.0.2", "lodash": "^3.9.3", "parse-stack": "0.1.3", "po2json": "^0.3.2", "q": "^1.1.1", "rcss": "0.1.4", "react": "0.13.1", "shelljs": "^0.3.0", "tablesorter": "Mottie/tablesorter#430f8c5", "through2": "^0.6.1", "uglifyify": "^3.0.1", "vinyl": "^0.4.6", "vinyl-source-stream": "^1.0.0", "yarb": "^0.4.4" }, "devDependencies": { "eslint": "^0.24.0", "eslint-plugin-react": "^2.6.4", "gulp-watch": "^4.2.1", "tape": "^4.0.0" }, "private": true } -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

ne who wants to know just how much power 350W really is, consider that your electric kettle is about 1000W and can boil 1.7l of cold water in 2 minutes. I know [CG]PUs get hot, but they don't get *that* hot. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Quick check on net-print/hplip-3.14.10

s ... >> >> I get the same option just trying to modify my current printer. It >> doesn't list anything, it just shows the printer I currently have set >> up. Even if I tell it I want to add another printer, it still shows my >> current printer. I can't find a way to get it to list them. Maybe it >> is a setting somewhere that I have that makes mine work different. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > > OK, I managed to get 10 minutes access to the offending box and I remerged > hplip. Guess what? The 930c driver re-appeared on the list. So I am now > doubly paranoid that the btrfs is playing up ... > Or, someone deleted the ppd and the re-emerge put it back :-) As the saying goes "never ascribe to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity" -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

On 17/09/2015 18:56, james wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > >> On 17/09/2015 16:09, james wrote: >>> Huh? You really should stay in the E domain, for accuracy and not >>> confusing the readers. > >> I'm not familiar with the term &qu

Re: [gentoo-user] npm: ERR! cb() never called!

On 17/09/2015 20:50, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/17/2015 10:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Anyone here familiar with driving nodejs and npm? >> >> I'm trying to write an ebuild for a musicbrainz mirror server and "npm >> install" keeps erroring out with on

Re: [gentoo-user] npm: ERR! cb() never called!

On 17/09/2015 22:53, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 09:24:39PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 17/09/2015 20:50, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 09/17/2015 10:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> Anyone here familiar with driving nodejs and npm?

Re: [gentoo-user] Quick check on net-print/hplip-3.14.10

On 18/09/2015 00:26, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 17 Sep 2015 20:25:57 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 17/09/2015 19:36, Mick wrote: > >>> OK, I managed to get 10 minutes access to the offending box and I >>> remerged hplip. Guess what? The 930c driver re-appeared on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo net0 - auto resetting - very impressed

On 16/09/2015 00:49, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 09/15/2015 01:58 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 15/09/2015 21:53, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > [snip] >> >>>> Yea, I almost had mine working but I just got tired of hacking >>>> away at it. It wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage directory ownerships?

ate. > > I like Alan's simplicity. I also like root:root, like my /usr/portage, > but most of it is portage:portage, and that I did do. I just cant > remember why. > > usr/local/portage/ is the one I need to think about. Here's what I suggest: You're doing a lot of hacking on ebuilds. Make a local overlay in ~ and have it owned by james:james, mode 644, just like all other code you'd keep in ~. Add that local repo to repos.conf/, leave the main portage dirs and external overlays as they are and hack away on clustering stuff to your heart's content > > Thanks for the feedback guys, > James > > > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] portage directory ownerships?

On 16/09/2015 00:36, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:25:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 15/09/2015 22:09, james wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> So looking at /etc/portage/repos.conf, it seems root.root owns these >>> files; shou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage directory ownerships?

Don't use 'git clone' for this. A clone is your first checkout. Rather push the stuff you edit and pull updates from there with layman > > I just gotta get this straight, consistent and keep things seperate > in my mind, because being an old fart, reading lots of codes, sometimes > I forget the origins of hacks. (yea yea document the code you old hack) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng "Failed to seek to the Cursor"

cursor", state->cursor), evt_tag_errno("error", errno), NULL); return __seek_to_head(self); } journald_next(self->journal); return TRUE; } First step would appear to be to check systemd's built-in log thingy -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng "Failed to seek to the Cursor"

On 16/09/2015 20:52, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 09/16/2015 06:55:00 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/09/2015 17:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>> I have syslog-ng-3.7.1 installed here. >>> Syslog-ng fails to start with the message: >>> Failed to seek to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng "Failed to seek to the Cursor"

On 16/09/2015 21:42, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> It has something to do with systemd's log thingy. >> >> The error only appears in one place in the syslog-ng source, >> i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo net0 - auto resetting - very impressed

utter crap and why anyone gives them desk space is beyond me. It's not like they are expensive either, toss 'em and buy something real. Recent Samsung, Epson and everything supported by hplip all work great. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] portage directory ownerships?

to a user account, if that user is portage then portage must own the files > > In my /usr/local/portage and it's subdirs where I hack on many > ebuild, portage.portage owns everything.? Make your life easy, chaown that stuff to james > Curious, and I cannot remember ever lo

Re: [gentoo-user] app-office/libreoffice-5.0.1.2 - fails

scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python3_3 -python3_4" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 -python3_3") -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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