Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > On 03. mars 2016 12:26, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Håkon Alstadheim >> wrote: >>> Would "revdep-rebuild.sh -i -L "libssl\.so.*" -- -f" before emerging, be >>&g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Would "revdep-rebuild.sh -i -L "libssl\.so.*" -- -f" before emerging, be > sufficient ? I.e. that should obviate the need for compiling wget with > gnutls ? > No, and no. The problem is the ABI is silently changing. Rebuilding everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:11 PM, James wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > Excuse me, but I did not criticize anyone. I know. It was really meant to temper my remarks, since email is easy to misconstrue. It wasn't really directed at you, and you did get at your int

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of graphics card

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not just the computing power, though: Gentoo support will be important over > the life of the system. If the life of this current box is any guide, that > could stretch to 10 years. Well, maybe. > So, I can't speak to computation in parti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:06 AM, James wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > >> They changed ABI without changing SONAME, which is an absolutely >> braid-dead thing for upstream to do, because it causes exactly this >> kind of breakage. > > H. I'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/03/2016 17:49, Rich Freeman wrote: >> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7886940.html >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576128 >> >> They changed ABI without changing SONAME, which is an absolut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/03/16 16:41, walt wrote: >> >> Today's upgrade of openssl to 1.0.2g-r1 may cause some necessary >> rebuilds to fail due to missing symbol errors. >> >> Example: libcurl was broken and caused the rebuilds of virtualbox and >> git to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Solved: ABI_X86=

2016-02-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:59:27 + (UTC), James wrote: > >> Is there a provision (mechanism) to have this autoset, if a package >> dependency call for it? The system was fine for a quite a while until I >> forced it to only install 64 bit lib

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Also, it has been a while since I read anything - what is the current > state of BTRFS vs ZFS? Is it stable/mature enough to use for production? > What can ZFS do that it cannot? > This is obviously a topic people will have various opinions on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2016-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Yes, which is what I recommended. Don't block 4.1.x security/bugfix patches. > Just block 4.2 and above. > ++ 4.1 is a longterm series, so if your goal is minimum disruption you can stay on it until Sep 2017. I would still recommend

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2/26/2016 12:04 PM, James wrote: >> Excellent point about the license. Did the license stop zfs folks >> from enjoying zfs? I know the zfs license stops some commercial folks >> from deploy/using zfs. And zfs is not a routine choice in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Feb 2016 19:08:42 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more >> > eavesdropping, rather t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Attic (cvs) -> ???(git)

2016-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:49 PM, James wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > >> If I were doing anything too >> crazy with all this I'd probably use the python git module. > > dev-python/git-python ??? Any others or related docs/howtos/examples? >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more > eavesdropping, rather than prohibit it. > Yeah, I'm one of those persons who tends to consider most fears of TPMs and UEFI overblown, but these CPUs that almost

Re: [gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I agree with Ralf, a small VM with Windows or an Ubuntu/Mint/whatever > appliance solely for use with skype is probably a better use of your > time. It's a huge PITA to keep abi_x86_32 under control and not bloat, > whereas a VM only needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Attic (cvs) -> ???(git)

2016-02-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:49 PM, James wrote: > > So using wget to fetch {package/files} from the gentoo attic was/is a reliable > exercise to build things removed from the tree, into one's > /usr/local/portage tree. It still works, but I'm guessing there is a now a > "github_way" to do this. cvs

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-02-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:55 AM, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > >> develop. (Before somebody points out LUKS, be aware that Bitlocker >> lets you do full-disk encyption that is secure without having to >> actually type a decryption key at any point. Remove the hard

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I install/admin a bootmanager from USB stick?

2016-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, wrote: > I'm ordered a new system for use for experimentation. Right now, I'm > looking at putting ReactOS and Minix3.3 on it. Problem... I don't think > either one is capable of booting the other. I suppose I could do a > basic install of linux, and use its

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 24 Jan 2016 11:40:04 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grant wrote: >> > So the user is safe if I send all internet requests from her remote >> > laptop through the Zerotier connecti

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grant wrote: > > So the user is safe if I send all internet requests from her remote > laptop through the Zerotier connection (instead of only sending > requests to my server through Zerotier)? > It depends on what you mean by "safe." If you mean that there is n

Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem choice for NVMe SSD

2016-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > a) EXT4 is a good extremely robust solution. Reliability is out of > the questioning: on my old box with bad memory banks it kept my data > safe for years, almost all losses were recoverable. And it has some > SSD-oriented features like

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mick wrote: > I would have thought SSL certificates/keys would be protected in RAM, but if > you have a Man-In-The-Browser attack I guess they wouldn't be. > As far as I'm aware linux doesn't do anything to protect process RAM from other processes with the same U

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 19 Jan 2016 15:59:25 Grant wrote: > >> > If a user certificate is lost of feared compromised, you revoke it with >> > your CA and upload the CRL to the server. >> > >> > However, this won't do away with XSS, or other similar attack vectors

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:00 PM, lee wrote: > Hm, I must be misunderstanding snapshots entirely. > Well, in the case of zfs/btrfs you are. Different implementations have different snapshotting features. > What happens when you remove a snapshot after you modified the > "original" /and/ the snap

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:35 PM, lee wrote: > And I thought vnc sends a copy of what is displayed on the screen, so if > you were running a program that renders something on the screen and > uses/requires a graphics card for that, you should be able to see what > it renders. If you can't see that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Grant wrote: > > The answer to this may be an obvious "yes" but I've never done it so I'm not > sure. Can I route requests from machine C through machine A only for my > domain name, and not involve A for C's other internet requests? If so, > where is that config

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Grant wrote: > Despite Rich's best efforts (thank you Rich! :-) ) I'm still > considering a Gentoo laptop for this along with a Chromebook. No worries. Gentoo laptops are great. There's a reason that Google decided to use them as the starting point for creating

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Grant wrote: > > Is an SSL key stored on a smartcard better than a TOTP password? They > seem roughly equivalent to me. I don't think either would restrict > access by device. > They'd be roughly equivalent, especially if the TOTP is backed by a smartcard. --

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:08 PM, lee wrote: > > BTW, is it as easy to give a graphics card to a container as it is to > give it a network card? I've never tried it, but I'd think that the container could talk to a graphics card. > What if you have a container for each user who > somehow logs in

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:22 PM, lee wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > How does that work? IIUC, when you created a snapshot, any changes you > make to the snapshotted (or how that is called) file system are being > referenced by the snapshot which you can either destroy or abandon. > When you

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote: > > You can use apache client authentication with SSL certificates only. Of > course you will need to create a self-signed CA, which you will use to create > the web server public/private key pair and also sign each client's certificate > and upload it

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Grant wrote: > > I'm sorry, I meant can I lock down access to my web stuff so that a > particular user can only come from a particular device (or from any > device containing a key). > It looks like this hasn't been widely implemented, but it looks like they do ha

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Grant wrote: > > If that's the case then it sounds like 2FA doesn't really provide any > extra assurance. It's another layer but if the machine is hacked then > it sounds like it becomes a very thin layer. > > I'd most like to allow the remote employee to use thei

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:22 AM, wrote: > > I'm an absolute windows noop. I only use it for graphics work. I even > didn't know that such a kind of file sharing is possible with it. :-) > No worries - I think that is a great place to be. However, it is useful to understand what ideas are out t

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:33 PM, wrote: > > Sharing files can be done via SCP/SFTP. If a VPN connection is used, > then even NFS or FTP are possibilities. I have 100 computers. I want a user on those 100 computers to be able to share a file on their computer with just me. On windows they just

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > All Joost is saying is that most resources can be overcommitted, since > all the users will not be using all their resources at the same time. > Don't want to sound like a broken record, but this is precisely why containers are so attra

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:57 PM, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: >>> Rich Freeman writes: >>> >>>> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of >>>> attacks, it stil

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Grant wrote: > > I am 100% web-based. I don't want to administrate machines outside of > my LAN so I can imagine a Chromebook would end up vulnerable > eventually. The whole point of chromebooks is that they auto-update in a timely fashion, and have a guaranteed

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:44 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: >> >> You would have a full VM for each user? > > Yes > >> That would be a huge waste of resources, > > Diskspace and CPU can easily be overcommitted. >... > The biggest reason why I don't use

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > >> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of >> attacks, it still leaves you open to many client-side problems like >> keylogging. I don't know any major corporation that

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:03 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > I would prefer a method that is independent of OS used. And provides server > side limitations with regards to filesharing and clipboard access. > x2go is just X11, so it should be OS-independent as long as you have a client/server for it.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Mick wrote: > I use the icaclient provided by Citrix to access my virtual desktop at work, > but have never tried to set up something similar at home. What opensource > software would I need for this? Is there a wiki somewhere to follow? > There might be someth

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:27 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Actually, there are several large corporations that use RDP-like technologies. > Although those are called "VDI" and usually use XenDesktop on the server side > and "icaclient" on the client. > Runs through HTTPS and apart from keyloggers a

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:38 AM, lee wrote: > Suppose you use a VPN connection. How do does the client (employee) > secure their own network and the machine they're using to work remotely > then? Poorly, most likely. Your data is probably not nearly as important to them as their data is, and mo

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > As for the security levels of their personal machines, tell them what > you require and from that point on you really have to trust your people > so be security aware and with the program. > Most employers just issue laptops to their emplo

Re: [gentoo-user] The X11-trap: Once back on textconsole...and no one comes back ever...

2016-01-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:37 AM, wrote: > I am using the nvidia-drivers since years and the switch back and > forth from and to the text console does well for years too. > Ok, I can't be of too much help since the only device I have with nvidia hardware doesn't have a keyboard so I don't switch

Re: [gentoo-user] The X11-trap: Once back on textconsole...and no one comes back ever...

2016-01-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:27 AM, wrote: > > But once touching the console, where X11 should still be > running and which is now occupied by the deep dark unholy > "nothing" ;) I got trapped -- no way out and a bindly > keyed login followed by a reboot has nothing as result. > What is your kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] snapshots?

2016-01-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:16:48 +0100, lee wrote: > >> > I would run btrfs on bare partitions and use btrfs's raid1 >> > capabilities. You're almost certainly going to get better >> > performance, and you get more data integrity features. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] snapshots?

2016-01-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > >> >> I would run btrfs on bare partitions and use btrfs's raid1 >> capabilities. You're almost certainly going to get better >> performance, and you get more data integrity featu

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty fixing GLSA 201512-07 (gstreamer-0.10)

2016-01-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:52:30 -0800, Grant wrote: > >> GLSA 201512-07 requires that I remove gstreamer-0.10 but I'm finding >> it rather inextricable due to dependencies. Has anyone else run into >> this problem? > > I think this is another ca

Re: [gentoo-user] snapshots?

2016-01-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:42 AM, lee wrote: > "Stefan G. Weichinger" writes: > >> btrfs offers RAID-like redundancy as well, no mdadm involved here. >> >> The general recommendation now is to stay at level-1 for now. That fits >> your 2-disk-situation. > > Well, what shows better performance? No

Re: [gentoo-user] Full system encryption on Gentoo

2015-12-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Though I see little point in whole / encryption. What is the > point to encrypt /usr, /lib, /bin, /sbin? Just do this > to /home, /var and other sensitive pieces. > An obvious advantage is to prevent rootkits, at least while the system

Re: [gentoo-user] Full system encryption on Gentoo

2015-12-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Hans wrote: > > Is it possible to fully encrypt a Gentoo system as can be done with Fedora, > Suse, Arch Linux, Debian and Ubunto without using a unencrypted USB boot > stick or unencrypted /boot partition? > I'm pretty sure grub can support LUKS. See for exampl

Re: [gentoo-user] arp question

2015-12-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, lee wrote: > > They are connected to different vlans on the same switch, so they don't > share the same broadcast domain. The switch shows the mac addresses of > the phones only in the expected vlan. > Out of curiosity, have you tried actually sending a broadcast

Re: [gentoo-user] arp question

2015-12-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Adam Carter wrote: >> grandstream.yagibdah.de (192.168.3.80) auf 00:0b:82:16:ed:9e [ether] auf >> enp2s0 >> grandstream.yagibdah.de (192.168.3.80) auf 00:0b:82:16:ed:9e [ether] auf >> enp1s0 >> spa.yagibdah.de (192.168.3.81) auf 88:75:56:07:44:c8 [ether] auf enp2s0

Re: [gentoo-user] btrfs strategies (wasHard drive noise)

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:25 AM, wrote: > > When I did try it just that way, it failed completely. I created the > structure, except that I put quotas on each of the subvolumes, and then > I rsynced the files from my non-btrfs copies which I had to do offline > using my grml cd, and when I reboo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up for those who use grub2

2015-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-12-19, Mick wrote: > >> http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2015-8370-Grub2-authentication-bypass.html > > If somebody can touch your computer while it's booting, the game's > over anyway... > Actually, not necessarily, though there is still

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:56 AM, wrote: > > I was never able to get either zfs or btrfs to work correctly, zfs was > very vulnerable -- I forgot to export a zfs on a usb drive and got an > enless loop of processes untill I rebooted. Btrfs never did work for > me, I created a pool, copied my roo

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Now I am considering an external hard drive with eSATA, more suitable for OS > installation (Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Haiku?) than USB 3.0. Only brand I > find is Micronet Fantom (GForce), or use Seagate NAS hard drive in an > enclosure

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive noise

2015-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Dale wrote: > > I also found this after the reply from Ian. > > https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/ > > No wonder they had it on sale. Heck, why didn't they just say it was a > good door stop instead of a hard drive??? > Yeah, the only reason I

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving names of local hosts locally

2015-12-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Solution: obey best practice. Never run auth and cache on the same > address. On the same machine is fine, they are different daemons. > Which one listens on port 53? Also, how do you point the caching daemon at the authoritative daemon f

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Stroller wrote: > > That's like telling your grandma, "you don't know what DNS is? this is > internet 101 - you use DNS all the time". > > I have not needed to add directories to CONFIG_PROTECT, or alter it in any > way, in over 10 years of using Gentoo. > Fair e

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Stroller wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 December 2015, at 9:24 p.m., Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> It wasn't really targeted at anybody in particular. It just should be >> clear in the documentation since config protection and merging co

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Stroller wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 December 2015, at 6:49 p.m., Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> If somebody has a link to the docs for this please post it, as it >> seems like this has disappeared from the handbook. This used to be >>

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Stroller wrote: > >> On Fri, 4 December 2015, at 12:55 p.m., Rich Freeman >> wrote: >>> >>> Surely it should go in somewhere like /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ >>> instead. >>> >>> Making

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing keyboard layout files from being overritten during system upgrades

2015-12-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Stroller wrote: > >> On Fri, 4 December 2015, at 12:10 p.m., Peter Humphrey >> wrote: >> >> On Friday 04 December 2015 13:55:30 gevisz wrote: >> >>> So, my main question is How can I ensure that the already >>> edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ru file will not be

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird "df" output

2015-11-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:57 AM, lee wrote: > Mark David Dumlao writes: >> wrt symlinks, some legacy tools, and regular unix tools have a completely >> different behavior when traversing symlinks as opposed to regular >> directories, which bindmounts emulate. although in practice i imagine it >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird "df" output

2015-11-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Jc García wrote: > 2015-11-25 16:10 GMT-06:00 : > >> /dev/sda7. Here's the relevant portion of /etc/fstab... > ... > >> /home/bindmounts/opt/optauto bind 0 0 > > Why not use regular partiontions instand of bindmounts, you are just >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: All sorts of digest verification failures

2015-11-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Don't forget that in Gentoo all commits are also GPG signed. > Sure, but to be fair those signatures are only bound to the content of the commit by an sha1 hash. -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning

2015-11-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > A major upgrade to OpenSSH is being stabilized: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18 > > The default of PermitRootLogin for sshd in the new version is > "prohibit-password". If you typically log in to the root account over >

Re: [gentoo-user] Using portage to install packages in home dir

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/03/2015 09:53 AM, Stanislav Nikolov wrote: >> Is there a way to make portage work only in $HOME, like setting >> root=/home/asd? I can't find any way to force portage NOT to read >> /etc/portage/make.conf or NOT to write to it's defa

Re: [gentoo-user] Making sense of reported ZFS disk usage

2015-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > > This is one of the problems with copy-on-write filesystems - they make > disk space accounting more complicated especially with snapshots. Indeed, it is one of the problems with copy-on-write anything. Shared memory is a similar situ

Re: [gentoo-user] bcachefs

2015-10-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:51 PM, James wrote: > > Anyone tested/ deployed bcachefs on gentoo yet? > > @rich added to your btrfs howtos? > > It looks very, very cool! My sense is that it could be a while before this becomes usable. >From the list post it doesn't yet support snapshots, or multipl

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panick in 4.2.1 from gentoo-sources

2015-10-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:34 PM, wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:13 PM, wrote: >> > >> > Thanks much -- 4.2.1 wqas what I just got using gentoo-sources, I will >> > sync and try again, maybe go to 4.1 and see what happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panick in 4.2.1 from gentoo-sources

2015-10-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:13 PM, wrote: > > Thanks much -- 4.2.1 wqas what I just got using gentoo-sources, I will > sync and try again, maybe go to 4.1 and see what happens. I heard 3.19 > was the first version where btrfs actually worked, and I have 3.18 here, > this is why I was trying the new

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panick in 4.2.1 from gentoo-sources

2015-10-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > Hi. I am getting some kind of kernel panick in 4.2.1 -- it boots up OK, > ... > how > do I get any information about what happened -- serial console or other > means? Can I do a console over the network without additional hardware? That is pretty simple

Re: [gentoo-user] fail to install new package

2015-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 13:31:54 +0300, Ran Shalit wrote: > >> >=virtual/libudev-215-r1 abi_x86_32 >> Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No] Y >> Autounmask changes successfully written. >> * IMPORTANT: 8 config files in

Re: [gentoo-user] resizing EFI partition, btrfs context

2015-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2015-10-06 um 09:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: >> On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 09:35:40 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> How about btrfs send/receive? I've never used them but used the equivalent with ZFS and it was simple to do. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I have lost hard drives before and learned my lesson. My data is in > three different places, one being offline. > ++ All drives fail, and sooner or later all fingers fumble. They may or may not provide warning before it happens. Don't ba

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Mick wrote: > > Thank you all for your replies. I've enabled the system-* flags and firefox > built in the same time give or take a few seconds. I can't see a difference > yet, although it feels faster - clear psychological advantage! ;-) > The same tarball is u

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KDE apps in a non KDE environment

2015-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/10/2015 05:31, Andrew Lowe wrote: >> Hi all, >> I'm getting disillusioned with the direction KDE is taking, with >> respect to forcing users to use things they don't want to. The semantic >> desktop, or whatever they are now callin

Re: [gentoo-user] System76 Hardware

2015-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > I'd say the method is the same as with any other laptop: pick one > specific model, look into its hardware (this[1] and a liveCD may be > handy), search for drivers, search "gento" + , > follow the handbook. > You have the slight assurance th

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:45:10 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Go ahead and show me where I have demanded something. > > Your insistence that it should be changed amounts to a demand. Your > assertion that it can be done easily only demeans the efforts o

Re: [gentoo-user] swi-prolog-7.3.7 missing digest

2015-10-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Mick wrote: > I saw this last night: > > /usr/bin/eclean-dist > * Building file list for distfiles cleaning... > * Missing digest for '/usr/portage/dev-lang/swi-prolog/swi- > prolog-7.3.7.ebuild' > > Does it need reporting or will it be OK on the next resync? htt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Sure, but the portage team can really only dictate the upstream >> defaults of portage, not tree policy. > > As I understand, they intend to remove non-dynamic deps > (if they agreed to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> There really wasn't much loud objection when the proposal came up >> again last week > > This does not mean that everybody agreed. > However, all arguments had been exchanged before, > s

Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly

2015-09-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/27/2015 03:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> Now it all makes sense, as a bonus I now see why why so many senior devs >> are so pedantic about revbumps (they have reason). >> >> Now that I know what the symptom will be, are bug repor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dynamically change PORTAGE_TMPDIR via bashrc?

2015-09-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, James wrote: > Florian Gamböck floga.de> writes: >> Now, before I try some crazy stunts like bind-mounting $D and $ED on >> "preinst" >> and cleaning up in "postinst", I wanted to know if some of you guys did >> similar experiments and/or have some advice that y

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM, lee wrote: > | > | (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > pulled in by > | (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) > | > | (dev-libs/boost-1.55.0-r2:0/1.55.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo as a xen guest: installing grub

2015-09-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:11 AM, hw wrote: > grub2-install /dev/xvda > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub2-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. > grub2-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be > installed in this setup by using blocklists. How

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo as a xen guest

2015-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Sounds like pvgrub. I never looked into setting that up, afaiui, it mounts the > guest filesystem, grabs the grub.cfg, grabs the kernel listed there, umounts, > then boots the guest. > Indeed, that is exactly the behavior Amazon has, and I'

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo as a xen guest

2015-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > For PV, grub is actually more work to get working. There is a config option > for the commandline. > I will send one of mine later today. I can believe that. My only experience is with Amazon, which doesn't give you any control over the h

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo as a xen guest

2015-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:05 AM, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm installing Gentoo as a xen PV guest. Do I need to install a bootloader > like grub, or should I rather just specify the kernel to boot in the > definition file of the guest? If I do the latter, what about the kernel > command line? > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:24 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday 20 September 2015 16:25:34 lee wrote: >> So I decided I'd better ask what to do. It's hard to believe that we >> are seriously expected to remove lots of software which we might not be >> able to install again just to do an update.

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 11:28 AM, lee wrote: > > Should I make feature requests? > First, don't believe every post you read in gentoo-user. Just as you can post anything you want here, so can anybody else. People offer advice they think is helpful. That doesn't mean it is necessarily correct,

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:37:53 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > >> My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated >> & its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary >> attention. Complaints or pleas for help like the

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 19/09/2015 21:36, lee wrote: >> >> dev-libs/boost:0 >> >> (dev-libs/boost-1.56.0-r1:0/1.56.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >> pulled in by >> (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) >> >> (dev-libs

Re: [gentoo-user] BTRFS problem? [WAS Quick check on net-print/hplip-3.14.10]

2015-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 18 Sep 2015 19:15:50 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Mick wrote: >> > On Friday 18 Sep 2015 17:16:54 Marc Joliet wrote: >> >> On Friday 18 September 2015 10:31:01 Mick wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] BTRFS problem? [WAS Quick check on net-print/hplip-3.14.10]

2015-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 18 Sep 2015 17:16:54 Marc Joliet wrote: >> On Friday 18 September 2015 10:31:01 Mick wrote: >> >A couple of months ago the akonadi DB went sideways and kmail played up as >> >a result. Again I was suspicious of btrfs, but neither the logs n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power

2015-09-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > PSUs are not expensive and there's lots of other things one can save > cash on. I firmly believe cutting corners with PSUs is like saving money > by not replacing oil filters - you save some cash now, and cause > yourself enormous expense l

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