Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-29 01:07, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2023-12-28 23:00:36, stefan1 wrote: Should I at least file bugs about those packages? Surely there is no reason to artificially limit the python version in ::gentoo? Yes, especially if the package has a test suite that passes under

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-28 23:00:36, stefan1 wrote: > Should I at least file bugs about those packages? > Surely there is no reason to artificially limit the python version in > ::gentoo? Yes, especially if the package has a test suite that passes under python-3.12. Most python packages are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-28 20:23, Martin Vaeth wrote: stefan1 wrote: On 2023-12-28 15:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: stefan1 wrote: This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? No. Until

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

Martin Vaeth wrote: > > /etc/portage/patches can patch practically everything > in ebuilds *except metadata*. That's exactly what > bug 209653 is about. Typo: I meant /etc/portage/env/*/*

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

stefan1 wrote: > On 2023-12-28 15:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> stefan1 wrote: >>> This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally >>> via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? >> >> No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed (which did not >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On Thu, 2023-12-28 at 18:38 +, stefan1 wrote: > > Anyway, at least I don't have many ebuilds to patch to support python > 3.12. If you're comfortable with git, you could switch your ::gentoo repo to a git checkout and edit/commit your changes there. Then when you git pull/rebase, you'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-28 15:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: stefan1 wrote: This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed (which did not happen since 16 years and presumably

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 16:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >> stefan1 wrote: >> > This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally >> > via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? >> >> No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 16:21, Martin Vaeth wrote: > > stefan1 wrote: > > This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally > > via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? > > No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed (which did not > happen since

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

stefan1 wrote: > This got me wondering though, is there no way to fix this globally > via make.conf instead of adding patched ebuilds to my overlay? No. Until https://bugs.gentoo.org/209653 is fixed (which did not happen since 16 years and presumably never will), there is no other way to fix

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-16 09:47, Martin Vaeth wrote: stefan1@shitposting.expert wrote: I have done the migration to python 3.12. The problem is that portage is pulling in python 3.11. A python version jump in gentoo is always a horrible work: Many ebuilds have not been updated and pull in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

rsnes" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 at 10:09, wrote: > The problem is that I'm on python 3.12 and portage is pulling in an > older version. Should have mentioned it in the first post, then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

If I remember correctly, running alsamixer - allows you select certain cards, ESC exits alsactl store - would write the setting to a file, under user it would be ~/.asoundrc (I could be wrong). But in my case "alsactl store" doesn't do anything, It opens "master" setting single bar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

On 12/16/23 20:00, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 17/12/2023 01:54, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: But the scary thing is I don't know what fix it and running as user: alsamixer still does not allow me to save default sound card I select with F6. You don't set a "default sound card" with F6. All

[gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

On 17/12/2023 01:54, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: But the scary thing is I don't know what fix it and running as user: alsamixer still does not allow me to save default sound card I select with F6. You don't set a "default sound card" with F6. All that does is simply allow you to see the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

On 12/16/23 16:33, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2023-12-16, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: After recent upgrade I have no sound. Running as root: alsamixer XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! (This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

On 12/16/23 16:33, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2023-12-16, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: After recent upgrade I have no sound. Running as root: alsamixer XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! (This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root

[gentoo-user] Re: alsamixer - no sound

On 2023-12-16, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > After recent upgrade I have no sound. > > Running as root: alsamixer > XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by > uid 1000! (This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root > PulseAudio as a root user, over the

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

stefan1@shitposting.expert wrote: > I have done the migration to python 3.12. > The problem is that portage is pulling in python 3.11. A python version jump in gentoo is always a horrible work: Many ebuilds have not been updated and pull in unnecessarily python 3.11. If you use any of these

Re: [SOLVED][gentoo-user] Re: No text scrolling at boot

On 12/14/23 08:34, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 13/12/2023 21:29, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: When gentoo boots grub display only kernel selection on the screen, hitting "Enter" there is not kernel line scrolling, only the login screen after few seconds: graphical login, user and password.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-15 09:22, Arve Barsnes wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 at 10:09, wrote: The problem is that I'm on python 3.12 and portage is pulling in an older version. Should have mentioned it in the first post, then it would be easy to look into it and tell you that media-libs/mesa is only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 at 10:09, wrote: > The problem is that I'm on python 3.12 and portage is pulling in an > older version. Should have mentioned it in the first post, then it would be easy to look into it and tell you that media-libs/mesa is only supported up to 3.11 (in the ebuild anyway). You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 2023-12-14 23:38, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 15/12/2023 00:53, stefan1@shitposting.expert wrote: I just tried to run today's emerge, when I saw that python 3.11 was being pulled in and packages had this USE flag flipped on. Python 3.11 is the default right now (and has been for some

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.11 USE flags being flipped on

On 15/12/2023 00:53, stefan1@shitposting.expert wrote: I just tried to run today's emerge, when I saw that python 3.11 was being pulled in and packages had this USE flag flipped on. Python 3.11 is the default right now (and has been for some months now.) You should follow the python

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wifi issues with 6.1.66 kernel and rtl8723bu driver

Thank you both for replying quickly. Michael, the driver does not seem to differ and nothing has changed in my configuration. rtl8723bu is not, to my knowledge, run in AP mode. I have blacklisted rtl8xxu. Also, I use NetworkManager. Nikos, thanks for the link ! Updating to 6.1.67 solved my

[gentoo-user] Re: No text scrolling at boot

On 13/12/2023 21:29, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: When gentoo boots grub display only kernel selection on the screen, hitting "Enter" there is not kernel line scrolling, only the login screen after few seconds: graphical login, user and password. Which parameter controls it. is it grub? In

[gentoo-user] Re: Wifi issues with 6.1.66 kernel and rtl8723bu driver

On 13/12/2023 22:34, Alexis Praga wrote: Hi, After a recent update to the latest kernel, I'm having troubles with a custom wifi driver [1], packaged using latest git into GURU. The laptop does recognize and connect to my wifi (that is, my iphone). But I cannot access internet and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VboxClient: the virtualbox kernel service is not running. Exiting

On 12/12/23 15:17, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2023-12-12, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: It was a virtualbox upgrade (not kernel), the notification is on Gentoo host system running VM. Were you trying to run guest additions on the host? Gentoo is a main machine; Windows is running in

[gentoo-user] Re: VboxClient: the virtualbox kernel service is not running. Exiting

On 2023-12-12, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > It was a virtualbox upgrade (not kernel), the notification is on > Gentoo host system running VM. Were you trying to run guest additions on the host? > I might be related to "app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions" > Unmerging this package

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

Michael, On Wednesday, 2023-11-29 17:56:37 +, you wrote: > ... > It depends on the hardware, this is what I have enabled on an AMD MoBo: > > ~ $ grep SPI /usr/src/linux/.config > ... > CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y > CONFIG_SPI=y > CONFIG_SPI_MASTER=y > ... > CONFIG_SPI_AMD=m > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > Dale schrieb am 05.12.23 um 18:27: >> >> This is where I'm putting the patch and the patch. >> >> >> root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/patches/media-video/mplayer.diff > > Maybe you should try: > /etc/portage/patches/media-video/mplayer/mplayer.diff > as written in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

Dale schrieb am 05.12.23 um 18:27: This is where I'm putting the patch and the patch. root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/patches/media-video/mplayer.diff Maybe you should try: /etc/portage/patches/media-video/mplayer/mplayer.diff as written in the Wiki. The directory requires the category

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

Michael wrote: > > Oops! I misread it. It is indeed the other way around, mplayer requiring > h264enc. My bad. In this case Dale needs to look into using ffmpeg for the > odd file he wants to transcode, instead of mplayer's menconder. Update.  It gives a clean update now except for mplayer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On Monday, 4 December 2023 19:20:12 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-12-04, Michael wrote: > >> However, the "h264enc" package has a hard dependency on mplayer. > > > > Which I believe is not needed for mpv. You can set: > The problem is not that h264enc is required by mplyaer, it's that the

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On 2023-12-04, Michael wrote: >> However, the "h264enc" package has a hard dependency on mplayer. > > Which I believe is not needed for mpv. You can set: The problem is not that h264enc is required by mplyaer, it's that the h264enc package requires mplayer: >From the h264enc ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On Monday, 4 December 2023 17:48:43 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Do you really need both mpv and mplayer? > > > > Given the new one fails to build, that is a good question. Personally, > > I just want to play videos. lol This is what

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Do you really need both mpv and mplayer? > > > Given the new one fails to build, that is a good question.  Personally, > I just want to play videos.  lol  This is what equery shows as needing > mplayer.  > > > > root@fireball / # equery d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > >> I either started a thread on this a while back or it was mentioned >> inside another thread.  This has been popping up for months now.  Either >> I have something set wrong or there is a problem in a ebuild or >> something.  I just don't know

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > I either started a thread on this a while back or it was mentioned > inside another thread.  This has been popping up for months now.  Either > I have something set wrong or there is a problem in a ebuild or > something.  I just don't know what.  This is what I get. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge load again

On Thursday, 30 November 2023 10:16:25 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > The load limit is being set only for emerge, not make, so it would only > affect the decision to start building more packages in parallel. The > already started ongoing builds could still take the load beyond 30, with > more than 30

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge load again

On Thursday, 30 November 2023 10:16:25 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2023-11-29, Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 27 November 2023 15:39:33 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > >> Hello list, > >> > >> I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging > >> libreoffice, and it's spending almost

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge load again

On 2023-11-29, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 27 November 2023 15:39:33 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging >> libreoffice, and it's spending almost the whole time working with 4 CPU >> threads. But: >> >> $ grep -e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:34:48 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Tuesday, 2023-11-28 10:13:56 +, you wrote: > > ... > > I suggested enabling the SPI modules because they are used by the CPU to > > communicate with various sensors, adjust clock frequency between > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

Michael, On Tuesday, 2023-11-28 10:13:56 +, you wrote: > ... > I suggested enabling the SPI modules because they are used by the CPU to > communicate with various sensors, adjust clock frequency between components > and thereafter to receive signals a/synchronously to control temperatures.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

On Monday, 27 November 2023 23:14:14 GMT Laurence Perkins wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Grant Edwards > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:36 AM > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor tempe

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

> -Original Message- > From: Grant Edwards > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:36 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature. > > On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > I have a sy

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild

-- Original Message -- From "Wols Lists" To gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date 24.11.2023 13:35:39 Subject Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild On 24/11/2023 10:27, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2023-11-24, Arve Barsnes wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild

On 24/11/2023 10:27, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2023-11-24, Arve Barsnes wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 04:07, Jack wrote: May or may not help, but have you tried revdep-rebuild? Also, you can try just one-shotting the reported packages, such as (for the last one in your list): emerge -1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]/[Meta] Subscribers of gentoo-user using Microsoft e-mail services

On Friday, 24 November 2023 10:51:19 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2023-08-02, Nuno Silva wrote: > > The subscriber which has subscribed to this list using a Microsoft > > mailbox (@live.ru?) is still subscribed, and still has that mailbox set > > to forward e-mails to a Gmail address. > > > > Which

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT]/[Meta] Subscribers of gentoo-user using Microsoft e-mail services

On 2023-08-02, Nuno Silva wrote: > The subscriber which has subscribed to this list using a Microsoft > mailbox (@live.ru?) is still subscribed, and still has that mailbox set > to forward e-mails to a Gmail address. > > Which would be fine, except Microsoft also still hasn't fixed the way >

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild

On 2023-11-24, Matt Connell wrote: > Sorry for the double post; I got a mail-undeliverable from Google so I > thought it didn't go through and retried it. Turns out it got to the > mailing list (both times) but not to gmail recipients because Google > doesn't like my SPF record (record says

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage reports preserved libs, but won't rebuild

On 2023-11-24, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 04:07, Jack wrote: >> >> May or may not help, but have you tried revdep-rebuild? > > Also, you can try just one-shotting the reported packages, such as > (for the last one in your list): > > emerge -1 sys-libs/zlib > > Regards, > Arve

[gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > I have a system here running an Intel N97 processor, which is idling > at 70-80C on Gentoo with all cores 99% idle. This is 40 degrees > hotter than it runs on Ubuntu or Windows 10. > > Powertop confirms that the CPU is spending nearly all of its time in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debugging NFS mounts

On Sunday, 19 November 2023 15:59:37 GMT Remy Blank wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote on 19.11.2023 16:12: > > Yes, indeed. In fact I don't know why this has only just bitten me; I've > > been doing the same thing for years without problem. > > > > That search turns up so many answers that I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Debugging NFS mounts

Peter Humphrey wrote on 19.11.2023 16:12: Yes, indeed. In fact I don't know why this has only just bitten me; I've been doing the same thing for years without problem. That search turns up so many answers that I don't know where to start, even prefixing the phrase with "gentoo". Most of them

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On 19/10/2023 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:49:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool

RE: [gentoo-user] RE: libva-glx.so.2

> From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com<mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 12:47 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org<mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] RE: libva-glx.so.2 > > Laurence Perkins wrote: &g

Re: [gentoo-user] RE: libva-glx.so.2

Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > From: Laurence Perkins lperk...@openeye.net > > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:05 AM > > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > > Subject: [gentoo-user] libva-glx.so.2 > > > > > > I have a

[gentoo-user] RE: libva-glx.so.2

> From: Laurence Perkins lperk...@openeye.net > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:05 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] libva-glx.so.2 > > I have a program with an embedded copy of ffmpeg that is choking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:45:10 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> I like rEFIind, but I recall it needs/needed a separate /boot >>> partition if you are running LVM/RAID. >>> >> I have /boot on ext2, / on ext4 and rest on LVM on my main system.  On >> the 770T rig, I have /boot on

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On 2023-10-19, Dale wrote: > That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of > kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is > almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool to do it.  > That says a lot there.  ;-)  Manually

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

> >That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location of >kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config is almost >impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool to do it. That says a >lot there. ;-) > >Dale > You can still write that kind of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:24:41 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> Do you mean booting from the ISO images? That's a GRUB thing, it >>> doesn't matter how it is loaded, EFI or MBR. >>> >>> However, being able to do away with GRUB is, to me, a bigger benefit >>> than not being able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:45:10 -0500, Dale wrote: > > I like rEFIind, but I recall it needs/needed a separate /boot > > partition if you are running LVM/RAID. > > > > I have /boot on ext2, / on ext4 and rest on LVM on my main system.  On > the 770T rig, I have /boot on ext2 I think and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On Thursday, 19 October 2023 12:59:06 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > Incidentally, systemd-boot can also generate and update boot menu entries > automatically with "bootctl install" and "bootctl update" although I have > never tried either. Yes, that's what I use. Once your kernel is complete, with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 19 October 2023 05:49:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:55:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location > > of kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config > > is almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool to > > do it. That says

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:49:25 -0500, Dale wrote: > That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of > kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is > almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool to do it.  > That says a lot there. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:24:41 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Do you mean booting from the ISO images? That's a GRUB thing, it > > doesn't matter how it is loaded, EFI or MBR. > > > > However, being able to do away with GRUB is, to me, a bigger benefit > > than not being able to boot ISOs is a drawback.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Thursday, 19 October 2023 00:06:43 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > If you like simple, here is a config file I use with systemd-boot > > version 6.1.57-gentoo > linux /vmlinuz-6.1.57-gentoo > options root=/dev/sda3 panic=10 net.ifnames=0 i915.enable_ips=0 > > That's it! There is a separate file

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

On Thursday, 19 October 2023 05:49:25 BST Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or > >> so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search. I > >> found this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or >> so, mostly out of habit.  The grub install failed and I did a search.  I >> found this and it worked.  >> >> >> >> grub-install fails with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing.  Just a >> different interface.  As long as all this is documented, I'll just >> follow it and it should work.  After all, efi has been around for a long >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or > so, mostly out of habit.  The grub install failed and I did a search.  I > found this and it worked.  > > > > grub-install fails with "grub-install: warning: this GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: >>> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different, >>> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually >>> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by >>> Grub as a place to

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different, >> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually >> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by >> Grub as a place to store its files. > > Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:45:27 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote: > > > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > > > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > > > remember the exact name. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing.  Just a > different interface.  As long as all this is documented, I'll just > follow it and it should work.  After all, efi has been around for a long > while now.  I'm sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:57:51 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > >> remember the exact name. > > > > Man pages of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> For example, if one >> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple >> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't >> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >>> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility >>> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't >>> remember the exact name. >> Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR",

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote: > > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility > > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't > > remember the exact name. > > Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", >

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 2023-10-18, Rich Freeman wrote: > Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my > list of things to fix. I don't really care much on the Ubuntu servers I maintain because they are rarely rebooted, and their network interfaces are always up. A couple weeks ago I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > For example, if one > of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple > mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't > wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that > cloudy

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't >> remember the exact name. > > Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", although > I've > seen it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:36:06 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the > > > monster that GRUB has become. > > > > While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 03:15:56 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've > > never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes. > > I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run > into, but I've seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the > > monster that GRUB has become. > While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it has > become much easier.  I noticed as I went through the install of

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 2023-10-17, Mark Knecht wrote: > I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've > never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes. I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run into, but I've seen longer. The two-minute delay I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:54:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I just realized, my new rig will almost certainly be efi.  I kinda dread >> that.  At least it is well documented tho.  Should be easy enough.  I >> hope.  o_O > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:54:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > I just realized, my new rig will almost certainly be efi.  I kinda dread > that.  At least it is well documented tho.  Should be easy enough.  I > hope.  o_O EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the monster that GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-10-17, Dale wrote: > >> I to find Gentoo to be much better documented. There were places where >> the old BIOS and efi info got a little confusing but eventually I >> figured it out. I been trying to think of a way to color code the docs >> but I can't figure out a

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

On 2023-10-17, Dale wrote: > I to find Gentoo to be much better documented. There were places where > the old BIOS and efi info got a little confusing but eventually I > figured it out. I been trying to think of a way to color code the docs > but I can't figure out a sensible way. You got BIOS

[gentoo-user] Re: Video card. Will this work for me?

On 2023-10-13, Dale wrote: > As most likely know, I'm in the process of building a new rig and > putting a couple older systems to use.  Most of my mobos support > PCIe-x16 2.0 for video cards.  I found a Nvidia NVS 510 that has four > mini HDMI outputs.  Research claims those are for multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: world updates blocked by Qt

On 10/12/23 06:56, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:19 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 11/10/2023 21:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM Michael Cook > wrote: >     I just --backtrack=100 and walked away, seemed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: world updates blocked by Qt

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:19 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/10/2023 21:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM Michael Cook > > wrote: > > I just --backtrack=100 and walked away, seemed to have figured > > something out for my

[gentoo-user] Re: world updates blocked by Qt

On 11/10/2023 21:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM Michael Cook > wrote: I just --backtrack=100 and walked away, seemed to have figured something out for my system and updated normally. This is the one that solved it. Been away too

[gentoo-user] Re: An annoyance in GPM, and a fix for it

On 04/10/2023 21:11, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Similarly, with a triple click, one can select a line, or a sequence of lines. This is all very fine, but GPM adds a CR after each line in the sequnce, INCLUDING THE LAST ONE. This makes it less useful for, say, copying a shell script command from and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the >> message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said >> should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the > message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said > should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may > not be.  What does

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