Ralph Slooten wrote:
> However to answer your question as best I can. Basically all software
> used to phone fixed lines will have some charge or another I believe.
> Gnomemeeting apparently does this too (since recently) or at least I
> heard, but I know too little about that to make a judgement.
> might shed some light (and links) to things you might want to look at if
> Skype bothers you ;-) I have used gnomemeeting before though, and
> although it's a great product it had a load of dependencies which deam
> it in my eyes as not-worth-the-effort, seeing as I don't have gnome
> installed.
Hi,
I'm sorry for the noise I caused, but I want to clarify some
things:
> Skype *is* awesome in terms of any Linux product. It works
> on almost all major distros out-of-the-box without any
> configuration needed (firewall included). This cannot be
> said for apps like gnomemeeting etc... They
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Hi Grant,
Grant wrote:
> Very interesting. It's starting to sound like Skype isn't the devil
> after all. Is there any other software that will let me make calls to
> regular phone lines from my Linux computer? Free would be better, but
> I don't m
> > Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
> > always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
> > future of development.
>
> Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-wrapper script
> does.
>
> > I wouldn't worry about the Lin
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Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
> always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
> future of development.
Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-
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Sorry to reply late on this, but statements like this cannot go
unchallenged:
Christoph Eckert wrote:
> Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability.
> But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to
> penetrate the market
Skype knows nothing about artsd or esd. The reason you see
that message is that the execution of skype is done by
a shell script which checks for the existence of one of
these daemons, and if found, fools skype into using it
via some clever (but not original) subterfuge.
I assume the wrapper was i
No running artsd or esd found
Starting skype without sound daemon
There are arts and esd USE flags for skype. Where do these sound
daemons come in?
If they had been started already, skype would have been started "wrapped"
by artdsp (this is what happens for arts, at least).
When no sound daemo
> That's the problem. You can easily use the software mentioned
> to call a friend who gave you his IP address. But you cannot
> call into the classical phone net. To do so, you need a
> service provider who has gateways all over the world. And
> this is something which cannot be solved by the open
> Why would they remove the Linux version? That would mean
> less people will use and pay for their software.
As soon as their protocol has penetrated all corporate VOIP
networks, the few linux users aren't of any interest.
Maybe they will keep the Linux client available, maybe for
free, but
> You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth
> and CPU time for any anonymous purpose.
Ops. THe police is standing in front of my house and calling
me a spammer ;-) ?
> I won't let them
> use my computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a
> GREAT software,
Yes.
> but
> What I'm confused about is the message I get when running
> skype from the command line:
>
> No running artsd or esd found
> Starting skype without sound daemon
Same for me.
> There are arts and esd USE flags for skype. Where do these
> sound daemons come in?
I guess that Skype tells us that
Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
future of development. I wouldn't worry about the Linux version
dissapear, the FREE version, OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of
spyware.
Besides, if yo
> Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability.
> But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to
> penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon
> as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version
> disappears.
Why would they remove the Linux version?
> > I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome.
> > I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons.
>
> http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html
>
> »What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use?
> Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System),
> using /dev/dsp as its
Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability.
But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to
penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon
as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version
disappears.
So, if you like your freedom, search for free
> I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome.
> I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons.
http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html
»What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use?
Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System),
using /dev/dsp as its audio input
I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome. I'm not
using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons. Do they just basically
take some load from the CPU and put it in memory?
- Grant
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