Re: [gentoo-user] emerge default config

2015-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:45 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > Is there a way to have default config lines that emerge updates won't touch? > I'd be interested in hearing about alternatives, but I switched to cfg-update from dispatch-conf and such because it does automatic 3-way merging. It is pretty go

[gentoo-user] emerge default config

2015-01-23 Thread shawn wilson
Is there a way to have default config lines that emerge updates won't touch? For instance, my /etc/ssh/sshd_config differs from the default in some places. I know this and upstream shows me the same diffs in that file over and over again. But maybe upstream will add a new option - I'd like to see

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge riddle again

2015-01-16 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alan McKinnon [15-01-16 08:52]: > On 16/01/2015 06:15, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > again the emerge oracle has spoken to one to its lowest servants and so > > said: > > > > > > > > Diffing databases (17943 -> 17944 packages) > > [N] >> net-print/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr (~*

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge riddle again

2015-01-15 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 16 Jan 2015 05:15:03 +0100 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Hi, > > again the emerge oracle has spoken to one to its lowest servants and so said: > > > > Diffing databases (17943 -> 17944 packages) > [N] >> net-print/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr (~*1.4.4): Epson Inkjet Printer > Driver

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge riddle again

2015-01-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/01/2015 06:15, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > again the emerge oracle has spoken to one to its lowest servants and so said: > > > > Diffing databases (17943 -> 17944 packages) > [N] >> net-print/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr (~*1.4.4): Epson Inkjet Printer > Driver (ESC/P-R) > * Ti

[gentoo-user] Emerge riddle again

2015-01-15 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi, again the emerge oracle has spoken to one to its lowest servants and so said: Diffing databases (17943 -> 17944 packages) [N] >> net-print/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr (~*1.4.4): Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) * Time statistics: 219 seconds for syncing 95 seconds for eix-upd

Re: [gentoo-user] "emerge --depclean" wants to remove active python?

2014-12-06 Thread Jarry
On 06-Dec-14 18:25, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: If 3.4.1 gets removed, I will have to run python-updater and compile all against 3.3. But why? 3.4.1 is stable, so why does Portage want to remove it??? Check out this thread from a day or two ago: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/2791

Re: [gentoo-user] "emerge --depclean" wants to remove active python?

2014-12-06 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 12/06/2014 12:18 PM, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > > I just updated my box (iirc, there was something python-related) > but depite of having python 3.4 active, emerge wants to remove it: > > # eselect python list > Available Python interpreters: > [1] python2.7 > [2] python3.3 > [

[gentoo-user] "emerge --depclean" wants to remove active python?

2014-12-06 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I just updated my box (iirc, there was something python-related) but depite of having python 3.4 active, emerge wants to remove it: # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 [2] python3.3 [3] python3.4 * # emerge --pretend --depclean Calcula

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM, wrote: > > Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > >> > Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge > >> > media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in th

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > > wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > >> wrote: > >>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > Hi. In my recent upda

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM, wrote: > Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >> > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: >> >>> Hi. In my recent update of this morning

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > > wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > >>> Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge > >>> media-gfx/sav

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > >> Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge > >> media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. > >> Here is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 5:53 PM, wrote: > Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: >> > Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge >> > media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. >> > Here is what the log says:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > > Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge > > media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. > > Here is what the log says: > > > > configure: WARNING: cannot find inttype:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >> wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: >>> Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge >>> media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google n

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: >> Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge >> media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. >> Here is what the log says: >> >> configure: WAR

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge > media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. > Here is what the log says: > > configure: WARNING: cannot find inttype: sizeof(inttype)==16 > checking size of

[gentoo-user] emerge of media-gfx/sav2p failed

2014-11-08 Thread covici
Hi. In my recent update of this morning I found that I cannot emerge media-gfx/sav2p and I cannot find anything on google nor in the bgo. Here is what the log says: configure: WARNING: cannot find inttype: sizeof(inttype)==16 checking size of char *... (cached) 8 checking size of void *... 8 c

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package [solved]

2014-10-26 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Jacques Montier wrote: > > > 2014-10-26 19:47 GMT+01:00 Alexander Kapshuk : >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Jacques Montier >> wrote: >> > [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -debug -lapack >> > -sift" LINGUAS="fr -cs -da -de -en_GB -

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package [solved]

2014-10-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2014-10-26 19:47 GMT+01:00 Alexander Kapshuk : > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Jacques Montier > wrote: > > [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -debug -lapack > > -sift" LINGUAS="fr -cs -da -de -en_GB -es -eu -fi -hu -it -ja -nl -pl > -pt_BR > > -ro -ru -sk -sv -zh_CN -zh

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package

2014-10-26 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Jacques Montier wrote: > [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -debug -lapack > -sift" LINGUAS="fr -cs -da -de -en_GB -es -eu -fi -hu -it -ja -nl -pl -pt_BR > -ro -ru -sk -sv -zh_CN -zh_TW" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 (-python3_2) > -python3

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package

2014-10-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2014-10-26 17:43 GMT+01:00 Daniel Frey : > On 26/10/2014 8:58 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Since few, when i run emerge -auvDN world, i get hugin to re-emerge again >> and again (with "r" to force re-install)... >> >> [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -d

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package

2014-10-26 Thread Daniel Frey
On 26/10/2014 8:58 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: Hello all, Since few, when i run emerge -auvDN world, i get hugin to re-emerge again and again (with "r" to force re-install)... [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -debug -lapack -sift" LINGUAS="fr -cs -da -de -en_GB -es -e

[gentoo-user] emerge world problem with one package

2014-10-26 Thread Jacques Montier
Hello all, Since few, when i run emerge -auvDN world, i get hugin to re-emerge again and again (with "r" to force re-install)... [ebuild rR ~] media-gfx/hugin-2014.0.0-r1 USE="python -debug -lapack -sift" LINGUAS="fr -cs -da -de -en_GB -es -eu -fi -hu -it -ja -nl -pl -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sv -z

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 17/09/14 16:16, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen >> wrote: >>> On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > For some reason xfce-power-

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 16:16, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local install needs but

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local >>> install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local >> install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so. >> > Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/16/2014 12:39 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> >> Replacing brightness with power in XFCE_PLUGINS, followed by running >> 'emerge -avuND @world', still tried to downgrade the package in >> question. >> >> I then ran 'emerge -avuND '>x

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 12:39 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > Replacing brightness with power in XFCE_PLUGINS, followed by running > 'emerge -avuND @world', still tried to downgrade the package in > question. > > I then ran 'emerge -avuND '>xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1' > which suggested adding '=

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local > install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so. > Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to satisfy XFCE_PLUGINS=battery/brightness.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 16/09/2014 17:51, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1, >> which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a >> dependency. >> >> grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-m

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/09/2014 17:51, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1, > which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a > dependency. > > grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager /etc/portage/package.* > /etc/portage/package.accept_ke

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/16/2014 11:51 AM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1, >> which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a >> dependency. >> >> [ebuild UD ] xfce-ex

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/16/2014 11:51 AM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1, > which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a > dependency. > > [ebuild UD ] xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.0 [1.3.1] > USE="policykit udisks%*

[gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Recently, I updated xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager to version 1.3.1, which is unstable, in order to prevent lvm2 from being pulled in as a dependency. grep xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager /etc/portage/package.* /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:=xfce-extra/xfce4-power-manager-1.3.1 ~x86 As I ra

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --config

2014-08-21 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 21/08/14 22:24, Kerin Millar wrote: > On 21/08/2014 12:07, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> Hi, >> I am building some VM's using scripts and want to run "emerge >> --config >> mariadb" automaticly. However it asks for a new root password (entered >> twice) as part of the process - I was going to ma

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --config

2014-08-21 Thread Kerin Millar
On 21/08/2014 12:07, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Hi, I am building some VM's using scripts and want to run "emerge --config mariadb" automaticly. However it asks for a new root password (entered twice) as part of the process - I was going to make an expect script to enter the password for me .

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --config

2014-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > Hi, > I am building some VM's using scripts and want to run "emerge --config > mariadb" automaticly. However it asks for a new root password (entered > twice) as part of the process - I was going to make an expect script to > enter

[gentoo-user] emerge --config

2014-08-21 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Hi, I am building some VM's using scripts and want to run "emerge --config mariadb" automaticly. However it asks for a new root password (entered twice) as part of the process - I was going to make an expect script to enter the password for me ... but I thought someone might know a better

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge of sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 fails....

2014-08-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, August 10, 2014 02:33:40 AM Christopher Kurtis Koeber wrote: > Hello, > > I am attempting to emerge xorg-server and sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 is pulled in > as a dependency. > > So, when I emerge llvm it fails. > > Here is some relevant output: > > emerge --info =sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3::g

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge of sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 fails....

2014-08-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 10.08.2014 um 08:33 schrieb Christopher Kurtis Koeber: > > Hello, > > I am attempting to emerge xorg-server and sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 is > pulled in as a dependency. > > So, when I emerge llvm it fails. > > Here is some relevant output: > > *emerge --info =sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3::gentoo*: > > Pas

[gentoo-user] Emerge of sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 fails....

2014-08-11 Thread Christopher Kurtis Koeber
Hello, I am attempting to emerge xorg-server and sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3 is pulled in as a dependency. So, when I emerge llvm it fails. Here is some relevant output: emerge --info =sys-devel/llvm-3.3-r3::gentoo: Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/qF92DXSY End Section of Build Log: Pastebin:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > I'm not sure if multiple partitions can share the same cache device > partition but more or less that's it: Initialize bcache, then attach your > backing devices, then add those bcache devices to your btrfs. Ah, if you are stuck with one bcache

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-24 Thread Kai Krakow
Rich Freeman schrieb: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: >> I don't see where you could lose the volume management features. You just >> add device on top of the bcache device after you initialized the raw >> device with a bcache superblock and attached it. The rest works the s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > I don't see where you could lose the volume management features. You just > add device on top of the bcache device after you initialized the raw device > with a bcache superblock and attached it. The rest works the same, just that > you use bcac

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-22 Thread Kai Krakow
Rich Freeman schrieb: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: >> And while we are at it, I'd also like to mention bcache. Tho, conversion >> is not straight forward. However, I'm going to try that soon for my >> spinning rust btrfs. > > I contemplated that, but I'd really like to s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > And while we are at it, I'd also like to mention bcache. Tho, conversion is > not straight forward. However, I'm going to try that soon for my spinning > rust btrfs. I contemplated that, but I'd really like to see btrfs support something more n

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Kai Krakow
Peter Humphrey schrieb: > On Friday 20 June 2014 19:48:14 Kai Krakow wrote: >> microcai schrieb: >> > rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, >> > that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. >> > >> > I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Wr

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Kai Krakow
Rich Freeman schrieb: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> >> I found that fstrim can't work on f2fs file systems. I don't know whether >> discard works yet. > > Fstrim is to be preferred over discard in general. However, I suspect > neither is needed for something li

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I found that fstrim can't work on f2fs file systems. I don't know whether > discard works yet. Fstrim is to be preferred over discard in general. However, I suspect neither is needed for something like f2fs. Being log-based it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 20 June 2014 19:48:14 Kai Krakow wrote: > microcai schrieb: > > rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, > > that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. > > > > I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor > > of 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-20 Thread microcai
2014-06-21 1:48 GMT+08:00 Kai Krakow : > microcai schrieb: > >> rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, >> that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. >> >> >> I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor >> of 26. I think t

[gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-20 Thread Kai Krakow
microcai schrieb: > rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, > that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. > > > I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor > of 26. I think the only reason is that I put portage tree on t

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Full Analyst
Hello Microcal, I use tmpfs heavily as I have an SSD. Here are some information that can help you : tank woody # mount -v | grep tmpfs devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=8050440k,nr_inodes=2012610,mode=755) tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1610408k,mode=755

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Kerin Millar
On 19/06/2014 12:56, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:40:08 +0800, Amankwah wrote: Maybe the only solution is that move the portage tree to HDD?? Or tmpfs if you rarely reboot or have a fast enough connection to your preferred

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:40:08 +0800, Amankwah wrote: > >> Maybe the only solution is that move the portage tree to HDD?? > > Or tmpfs if you rarely reboot or have a fast enough connection to your > preferred portage mirror. There has been a p

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:40:08 +0800, Amankwah wrote: > Maybe the only solution is that move the portage tree to HDD?? Or tmpfs if you rarely reboot or have a fast enough connection to your preferred portage mirror. -- Neil Bothwick The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Amankwah
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:36:59AM +0800, microcai wrote: > rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, > that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. > > > I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor > of 26. I think the only

[gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-18 Thread microcai
rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor of 26. I think the only reason is that I put portage tree on this SSD to speed it up. what is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:33:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'm an old fart, set in my ways, I found something long ago that works > for me with unsufficient pain to provoke a change. I clearly have a lower pain threshold than you :( > So I ain't changin' :-) Good thing it's an option then ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 20:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as >>> you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? >> >> Yes, exactly. For two reasons: >> >> 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:06:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as > > you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? > > Yes, exactly. For two reasons: > > 1. In the vast majority of cases, there's somethin

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 16:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. > > What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as > you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor pac

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I know about --keep-going, I don't like it much. What's not to like? Do you like a long emerge list aborting as soon as you turn your back because of a missing patch file in a minor package? -- Neil Bothwick How is it that we put man

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/06/2014 12:36, thegeezer wrote: >> +1 to just letting portage work with world. >> > >> > What I have found useful when trying to do what Alan is attempting, is >> > to select a chunk of packages at a time (like say all of kde, then a >> > bunch of daemons). If I get a block, drop it and try t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-10 Thread thegeezer
On 06/09/2014 10:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: >>> Hi, Gentoo! >>> >>> The latest episode of my months long update saga. >>> >> [snip] >>> This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date sho

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:04:30 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. > > Whenever you try to update only part of your tree, emerge cannot do > > changes anywhere else, which means that other stuff can block your > > intended changes. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Alan, first of all, which portage version are you using? Even if you are otherwise always running a stable system, in this case it might be useful to update portage (only) to ~arch. The errors that you are seeing are in an area of the dependency resolver that people are actively working on

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Andreas. On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > > Hi, Gentoo! > > The latest episode of my months long update saga. > [snip] > > This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/06/2014 21:15, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: >> Hi, Gentoo! >> >> The latest episode of my months long update saga. >> > [snip] >> >> This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this >> difficult. > > You are making it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 9. Juni 2014, 13:28:03 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > Hi, Gentoo! > > The latest episode of my months long update saga. > [snip] > > This all seems crazy. Keeping Gentoo up to date shouldn't be this > difficult. You are making it artificially complicated by doing it piecewise. Whenever y

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:28:03 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > emerge -p --color y util-linux | less -F > > , and get the following on my screen: > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] > USE="bash-completion%* pam%* python%* -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% > -tty-helpers%" PY

[gentoo-user] emerge util-linx; util-linux and sysvinit block eachother.

2014-06-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! The latest episode of my months long update saga. I do emerge -p --color y util-linux | less -F , and get the following on my screen: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r2 [2.22.2] USE="bash-completion%* pam%* python%* -caps% -cytune% -fdformat% -tty-helpers%" PY

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/04/2014 15:26, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 4/10/2014 7:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Everything else in that list is routine except maybe pciutils and gpm. >> Add them to world manually if you use those apps > > Thanks Alan/Tom... > > Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, i

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, it seems like it > is a tool that I would manually have to use, not something required by the > system itself for anything that happens automatically (ie, at boot time)? > It provides th

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/10/2014 7:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Everything else in that list is routine except maybe pciutils and gpm. Add them to world manually if you use those apps Thanks Alan/Tom... Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, it seems like it is a tool that I would manually ha

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:51:39 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > seems alright except virtual/init That is a virtual that is no longer used, it is thus safe to remove. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/04/2014 13:16, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd > like someone to check these... > These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > dev-python/python-exec > selected: 1.1 1.2 >protected: none >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Apr 10, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd like someone to check these... > > >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > dev-python/python-exec > selected: 1.1 1.2 >protected: none

[gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd like someone to check these... >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-python/python-exec selected: 1.1 1.2 protected: none omitted: none perl-core/ExtUtils-Command select

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all packages which depend on P : how to

2014-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:38:06 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I've tried > > emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P` > > or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P` > > but both commands (equery and qdepends) generate a list with the > version attached like >app-editors/kile-2.1.3 > which emerge doesn't like (

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all packages which depend on P : how to

2014-02-20 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2014-02-20 13:38 GMT+01:00 Helmut Jarausch : > Hi, > > I have a very simple question. How to emerge (update) all packages which > depend on some > given package P. > > I've tried > > emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P` > > or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P` > > but both commands (equery and qdepends) gener

[gentoo-user] emerge all packages which depend on P : how to

2014-02-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I have a very simple question. How to emerge (update) all packages which depend on some given package P. I've tried emerge -uv1 `equery -q d P` or emerge -uv1 `qdepends -q -Q P` but both commands (equery and qdepends) generate a list with the version attached like app-editors/kil

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package [SOLVED]

2014-02-01 Thread Thanasis
on 02/01/2014 12:47 AM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: > > I think it would, I used to have a general gentoo-sources plus specific > versions in world before it was possible to use sets to stop older > kernels being depcleaned. If you have the above line plus an unversioned > atom, I think you

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-31 Thread Khumba
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:47:31 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:41:09 +0200, Thanasis wrote: > > > > > > > > > Of course if all 3.10 kernels are removed from the tree then this will > > > pull in a wrong kernel, but I *think* that's valid world file > > > syntax... > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:41:09 +0200, Thanasis wrote: > > > > > Of course if all 3.10 kernels are removed from the tree then this will > > pull in a wrong kernel, but I *think* that's valid world file > > syntax... > > > > I don't know if what you're suggesting would work, yet if you notic

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-31 Thread Thanasis
on 01/31/2014 06:35 PM Khumba wrote the following: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200 > Thanasis wrote: > >> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with >> the latest gentoo-sources? >> >> Current

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-31 Thread Khumba
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:35:22 -0800 Khumba wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200 > Thanasis wrote: > > > Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest > > 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with > > the latest gentoo-sources? > > > > C

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-31 Thread Khumba
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200 Thanasis wrote: > Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest > 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with > the latest gentoo-sources? > > Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. > I know I can specify it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with >> the latest gentoo-sources? >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Tselischev
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: > Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest > 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with > the latest gentoo-sources? > > Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. > I know I can specif

[gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. I know I can specify it like so, emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.28 but then it w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:16:36 -0500 Andrew Penhorwood wrote: > * ERROR: sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2::gentoo failed (compile phase): > * emake failed > * > * Call stack: > * ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_compile > * environment, line 2823: Called toolchain-binutils_src_compil

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