[gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of course, I can't do any testing... According to h

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Graham Murray
Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to > prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time > gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support > whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread b.n.
Jorge Almeida ha scritto: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of course, I can't do any

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Buying an hardware router with DHCP will avoid you any hassle. I did this way at my parent's home and everything runs perfectly. Of course I'm talking of a 24/7 connection. Probably that's what I want, but how can I know? The handbook doesn't talk about suc

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:43, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': > I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to > prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time &

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 20:32, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: > > Buying an hardware router with DHCP will avoid you any hassle. I did > > this way at my parent's home and everything runs perfectly. > > > > Of course I'm talking of a 24/7 connection. > > Probably that

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 22:06, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > If you use a router, the usual DHCP configuration (for wired or > wireless ethernet) applies. Of course, the above is true if you configure your router to act as a DHCP server (the most common setup with an ADSL router, at least in my e

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread b.n.
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay later because that "simple" interface d

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay later because that "sim

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:35:39 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to > do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. He's going to need an ADSL modem, so why not get one with a router built in? In fact, here in th

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay la

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:15, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware > > to do somet

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) can be configured to handle all the pppoe-ness and simply provide an ethernet connection. Depending on your service plan, you'll then simply run a DHCP client or statically

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 17:20, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) > > can be con

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/11/07, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) can > be configured to handle all the pppoe-ness and simply provide an ethernet > connection. Depending on your servi

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:43:26 +0300, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoeve

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:07 +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:43:26 +0300, Jorge Almeida > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to > > prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it. Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even te

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: The firewall and router you get with an ADSL modem are essentially free these days. If you need more then what is in the router, nothing prevents you from building a box for traffic monitoring and advanced routing later. Good point. You must

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread b.n.
Jorge Almeida ha scritto: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it. Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of gettting the PPP stuff und

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: > > Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of > gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even tell what your > external IP is unless you query the modems web interface. To the user, > you can just be 192.168.1.50, and the mod

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread Mick
On Thursday 11 January 2007 22:15, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: > > Well, you can disable router firewalling and firewalling your box, why > > not? Actually, that's the most sensible thing to do. > > I think I was confused and said nonsense. The box having a private IP >

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Mick wrote: That's how I have set up mine. The Netgear [ADSL modem/NAT router/SPI firewall (statefull packet inspection)] box does its tricks, inc. acting as a DHCP, DNS server and gateway for the boxen on the LAN, while each LAN machine has an additional layer of security

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 22:42 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Mick wrote: > > > > > That's how I have set up mine. The Netgear [ADSL modem/NAT router/SPI > > firewall (statefull packet inspection)] box does its tricks, inc. acting as > > a > > DHCP, DNS server and gateway for th

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, William Kenworthy wrote: get the device to tell you that its IP has changed? I use a linux box behind an old DSL300 for the above that extracts the IP number from the interface connected to the DSL300 every 60 seconds. If its changed, this triggers an update to dyndns (via

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Mick
On Sunday 14 January 2007 09:46, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > I presume OpenWRT can run scripts to do something similar? > > I think it can run user-made scripts (that's the point, after all), but > my experience with OpenWRT is nil. I can cook up the script easily > enough, but I don't know about ezu

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:59:13 + Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What seems great about OpenWRT is the possibility of installing > > packages. Only debian packages made for OpenWRT. I guess I'll have to > > learn about that... > > Me too. I would also like to learn how to cross compil