Re: [Geotools-devel] docs.geotools.org

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Michael Bedward ha scritto: >> Thanks Justin that is beautiful :-) >> > > What Jody said. Much appreciated Justin. Justin++ (ah, these new programming languages, they just on keep popping up...) Cheers Andrea -- Andrea Aime OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Expert service straight from

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Michael Bedward ha scritto: > I agree with the points that Justin has made. The codebase is a much > bigger hurdle for prospective developers than the Java version and I > think it's extremely important to be mindful of what our users' > constraints are. There's not much point "embracing change" (y

Re: [Geotools-devel] docs.geotools.org

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Bedward
> Thanks Justin that is beautiful :-) > What Jody said. Much appreciated Justin. Michael -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Bedward
I agree with the points that Justin has made. The codebase is a much bigger hurdle for prospective developers than the Java version and I think it's extremely important to be mindful of what our users' constraints are. There's not much point "embracing change" (yuk) if it results in a shrinking use

Re: [Geotools-devel] docs.geotools.org

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
Thanks Justin that is beautiful :-) Jody On 05/06/2010, at 8:13 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote: > is up and running. geotools.org is pointing it for documentation. > > The docs showcase the stable docs with a link to the trunk docs at the > bottom. > > Let me know what you think. > > The follow

Re: [Geotools-devel] epsg-wkt updated

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
Trunk, if someone has a moment they can copy the property file back to 2.6.x. For the next month my intension is to work very hard on 2.7; not all of the changes will be back-ported. Jody On 05/06/2010, at 1:14 AM, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: > Jody, > > In which version was this updated? >

[Geotools-devel] docs.geotools.org

2010-06-04 Thread Justin Deoliveira
is up and running. geotools.org is pointing it for documentation. The docs showcase the stable docs with a link to the trunk docs at the bottom. Let me know what you think. The following hudson jobs will continually update the docs on the site. http://hudson.opengeo.org/hudson/view/geotools/jo

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Justin Deoliveira
These are pretty strong statements. Noone is saying that users should not use Java 6 or 7 if they choose. Indeed they get the performance benefits by doing so. The decision here is whether moving to Java 6 for development convenience is worth no longer supporting Java 5. There is nothing stopp

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Way
I am also a +1 for this. I think we need to be technology leaders in this area. Users who have a stable production environment will be sticking with that particular version of geotools anyway, and will not constantly upgrade (unless bug fix). When a production environment has an upgrade path,

[Geotools-devel] [jira] Created: (GEOT-3135) JP2KReader should not depend on Kakadu to get the UUIDBox

2010-06-04 Thread David Smiley (JIRA)
JP2KReader should not depend on Kakadu to get the UUIDBox - Key: GEOT-3135 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-3135 Project: GeoTools Issue Type: Improvement Components:

Re: [Geotools-devel] epsg-wkt updated

2010-06-04 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
Jody, In which version was this updated? Thanks, Joachim On 06/04/2010 04:43 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: > Got a refresh of codes from epsg-hsql (thanks andrea) and combined with the > custom codes we had defined. > > Number of codes went from 2799 up to 4770! > > Jody > ---

[Geotools-devel] GMLEncoder Day 2 Update

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
A bit more action on the GMLEncoder front today. We have access to the fast Transformer (is this legacy?) GMLEncoder encode = new GMLEncoder( out, Version.GML2 ); encode.setNamespace("location", "http://localhost/location.xsd";); encode.setLegacy(true); encode.encode(

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread lim goh
I'm also a +1 just to clarify. I think IT should upgrade when they should. Not upgrading due to IT issues are very sad though definitely understandable. I'm very sure all of us are essentially saying what Justin said about mixed feelings, it is clearly: 1. We should upgrade to the new default +1

[Geotools-devel] epsg-wkt updated

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
Got a refresh of codes from epsg-hsql (thanks andrea) and combined with the custom codes we had defined. Number of codes went from 2799 up to 4770! Jody -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Justin Deoliveira ha scritto: > I have mixed feelings about this one. I definitely agree that it is a > pain to require developers to use java 5 when java 6 is the new default. > > But I also know there exist users that can't make the shift in an > organization because IT requires them to use an

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Justin Deoliveira
I have mixed feelings about this one. I definitely agree that it is a pain to require developers to use java 5 when java 6 is the new default. But I also know there exist users that can't make the shift in an organization because IT requires them to use an older java version. All in all I would

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
-1 I fear a lot of servers haven't upgraded to java6 yet, so this would make inclusion in some applications problematic. Considering that java5 is still just the previous version (even if it is already a couple years old), I would not require java6 unless there is a very compelling reason. That

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
So thus far I am the only +1 :-P > Eh, OpenGeo wise we're kind at the end of the rope for the Hudson build > server, we can hardly host any other build, disk space is exhausted. I was more thinking of leaving Hudson exactly the way it is; just changing our policy. Ie allow volunteers to use Ja

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Jody Garnett ha scritto: >>From the uDig stand point am fine with upgrading to Java 6. > > I with you on the need to make it easy for developers to contribute to the > project; open source projects feed on volunteers after all. > > Could we do a trial on Java 6 with the following conditions: > -

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
>From the uDig stand point am fine with upgrading to Java 6. I with you on the need to make it easy for developers to contribute to the project; open source projects feed on volunteers after all. Could we do a trial on Java 6 with the following conditions: - allow 2.7.x to be build with Java 6 -

Re: [Geotools-devel] SimpleFeatureIterator vs Iterator

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
There are a large number of other "Collection" methods; are there any more candidates for removal? A couple weeks ago I mentioned the add/remove listener methods as something that is just not implemented. Jody On 04/06/2010, at 6:31 PM, Michael Bedward wrote: > On 4 June 2010 17:58, Jody Garne

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread lim goh
I personally had trouble downloading Java 5 when I wanted to start working on Geotools. I think when we are using technologies like Java, we should be prepared to follow through the leadership of the owner of the technology. We don't have to immediately switch, of course, but when Java 5 is already

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Simone Giannecchini
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Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> Grabbing a JDK 5 today requires quite some extra jumps in the downloads, very true, and it has become even harder since Oracle's purchase of Sun > and we formally support building only against Java 5, by this > meaning Java 6 builds might actually fail (sometime a unit test I built GeoTools tr

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Mathieu Baudier ha scritto: > To put it short: I would really analyze closely whether the benefits > of dropping Java 5 support go beyond the "comfort" of some new Java 6 > features, because such a switch is easy to do in a development setting > but can cause a lot of headache when deploying. Rig

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> quick informal poll. What about switching the current trunk to Java 6? > Would you be pro? Against? Don't care? We have started only very recently to use GeoTools (and we love it!) and I'm not a contributor to this project, so I will just speak from a general experience in Java in an enterprise

Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Bedward
+0 for me I think. I'd be +1 except that I know it will leave behind anyone using OSX on older mac hardware (32 bit) for which Apple has failed to provide Java 6. Michael -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the

[Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to Java 6 now?

2010-06-04 Thread Andrea Aime
Hi, quick informal poll. What about switching the current trunk to Java 6? Would you be pro? Against? Don't care? I would be pro. Cheers Andrea -- Andrea Aime OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org Expert service straight from the developers. -

Re: [Geotools-devel] SimpleFeatureIterator vs Iterator

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Bedward
On 4 June 2010 17:58, Jody Garnett wrote: > Took a run at deprecating the methods that have anything to do with iterator: > - iterator() > - close( Iteator ) > - close( FeatureIterator ) > - purge() // was already deprecated and could be removed > Cool ! Thanks Jody. I love it when things get si

Re: [Geotools-devel] SimpleFeatureIterator vs Iterator

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
Took a run at deprecating the methods that have anything to do with iterator: - iterator() - close( Iteator ) - close( FeatureIterator ) - purge() // was already deprecated and could be removed On 04/06/2010, at 5:32 PM, Michael Bedward wrote: > Thanks both for the explanations. > > Is there any

Re: [Geotools-devel] SimpleFeatureIterator vs Iterator

2010-06-04 Thread Jody Garnett
So this makes two things to clean up? - FeatureCollection.iterator() to be deprecated - FeatureSource.setTransaction( transaction ) to be added Jody On 04/06/2010, at 4:21 PM, Andrea Aime wrote: > Michael Bedward ha scritto: >> Hi folks, >> >> For my (occasional) javadoc editing I'm trying to g

Re: [Geotools-devel] SimpleFeatureIterator vs Iterator

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Bedward
Thanks both for the explanations. Is there any problem with marking Iterator as deprecated in 2.7 ? When looking at Jody's FeatureCollection wiki page I though it just confuses the reader having both. Michael -- ThinkGee