These are pretty strong statements. Noone is saying that users should not use Java 6 or 7 if they choose. Indeed they get the performance benefits by doing so.
The decision here is whether moving to Java 6 for development convenience is worth no longer supporting Java 5. There is nothing stopping developers from using java 6 as long as they don't use java 6 language specific features. Which the build server will easily catch. So the question becomes are the features and apis of Java 6 compelling enough to break backwards compatibility? On 10-06-04 10:42 AM, Steve Way wrote: > I am also a +1 for this. > > I think we need to be technology leaders in this area. > > Users who have a stable production environment will be sticking with that > particular version of geotools anyway, and will not constantly upgrade > (unless bug fix). When a production environment has an upgrade path, they > will most definitely create a migration study to look into the impacts. > > I think it is bad practice to stay with 5, especially seeing as it is EOL > now, 7 is due out in the foreseeable and will be 2 versions old by then. > > After a while, people look at technology and think of it as stale if it has > not been kept up with the pace. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lim goh [mailto:cl...@student.cs.uwaterloo.ca] > Sent: 04 June 2010 16:13 > To: geotools-devel > Subject: Re: [Geotools-devel] Informal poll: how good are we for a switch to > Java 6 now? > > I'm also a +1 just to clarify. > > I think IT should upgrade when they should. Not upgrading due to IT > issues are very sad though definitely understandable. > > I'm very sure all of us are essentially saying what Justin said about > mixed feelings, it is clearly: > 1. We should upgrade to the new default +1 > 2. IT still hasn't upgrade our servers to the new default. -1 > > So I think although Andrea feels there's not enough enthusiasm among > developers, we should still do a user poll if possible just to see how > many -1 are there. (hopefully the -1s can become +1s by their IT > becoming change-friendly, haha) > > 2010/6/4 Andrea Aime<aa...@opengeo.org>: >> Justin Deoliveira ha scritto: >>> I have mixed feelings about this one. I definitely agree that it is a >>> pain to require developers to use java 5 when java 6 is the new default. >>> >>> But I also know there exist users that can't make the shift in an >>> organization because IT requires them to use an older java version. >>> >>> All in all I would tend to weigh user concerns higher than developer >>> ones. It is not like developers are crashing down the door wanting to >>> contribute to geotools. The higher barrier of entry imo is the >>> complexity of the codebase, not the version of Java we use. >>> >>> All that said I think it would be a good idea to do a poll of the user >>> community. As well as the user communities of any projects depending on >>> geotools. I think we did something similar when we switched to java 5. >> >> Yep. Just wanted to do a developer pool before going to do a >> user one... so far not sure a user one is necessary, not enough >> enthusiasm for a switch to java 6 around here I guess ;-) >> >> Although... who knows, maybe a user pool could be interesting anyways >> (we're curious animals anyways no?) ;-) >> >> Cheers >> Andrea >> >> >> -- >> Andrea Aime >> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org >> Expert service straight from the developers. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. 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