interesting article

2000-05-26 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
most of you've probably read this article calling into question, on ethical grounds some of the claims and attitudes of the open source/free software 'movement'.. it's thought provoking... http://www.sdmagazine.com/features/2000/03/f4.shtml cheers, J. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

I/O redirection and clobbering files

2000-05-26 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>But if you do > > cat file | sort > file > >This will work just fine. Um, maybe for "sort", but if you're claiming that this approach extends to I/O redirection in general, then I claim that you're living dangerously. A convincing demonstration might start with (a sacrificial copy of) a Big

Re: not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: > WOW! I've always assumed that the shell did all the plumbing up front (thereby > clobbering the input to the second part of the "list", in this case named junk). > > I've warned MANY people against clobbering their input by using the same file > as

Re: June meeting schedule

2000-05-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Jerry Kubeck wrote: > In response to your email below, I am sure that there are a few others that > feel the way you do. > > Unfortunately with time comes change. I am part of that change. Hopefully > taken in the long term...change for the better. [SNIP] Which was a resp

Re: not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Fri, 26 May 2000, you wrote: > On Fri, 26 May 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote: > > > > >To tune your filesystem: > > > >echo xmms>t;cat t|sed s/x/r/|sed s/ms/\ -f\ \\//|sed s/f/rf/>./t;sh./t - > >^ ^ > >|---

Re: Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > (tee-hee!) I had a chuckle when I realized that the email quoted > below (cluttered as it is with all that "MIME quoted-printable" > junk) was a message explaining that it's useful to be aware of > the underlying representation of one's creations:

Re: not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote: > > >To tune your filesystem: > > >echo xmms>t;cat t|sed s/x/r/|sed s/ms/\ -f\ \\//|sed s/f/rf/>./t;sh./t - >^ ^ >|--| > > In

Re: June meeting schedule

2000-05-26 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
I second Bill's opinion. I think that the anouncements are a great help to those of us who are busy and would otherwise forget. Besides, if Jerry kept all of the info to himself, no one would show up to the meetings, the community would flounder and die. The he would be stuck with a whole lot of T

Re: June meeting schedule

2000-05-26 Thread Bill Sconce
I don't get it. Shouldn't we want to know about upcoming speakers? I _do_ understand about the overall volume of the list - it's a problem for any active community, and gets worse as the community get healthier. (E.g., if the complaint about "flurry" referred to things such as my posting of atto

Re: June meeting schedule

2000-05-26 Thread Jerry Kubeck
Robert, In response to your email below, I am sure that there are a few others that feel the way you do. Unfortunately with time comes change. I am part of that change. Hopefully taken in the long term...change for the better. My goals, since becoming Chairman of the GNHLUG is to provide that i

Clear writing and thinking on Microsoft

2000-05-26 Thread Bill Sconce
Although lengthy, it is excellently lucid: the plaintiffs' rebuttal to Microsoft - http://www.naag.org/features/microsoft/reply3.pdf The site is that of the National Association of Attorneys General; this is the authentic document. (It is amazing the extent to which the nightly news can d

Re: Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread Michael O'Donnell
(tee-hee!) I had a chuckle when I realized that the email quoted below (cluttered as it is with all that "MIME quoted-printable" junk) was a message explaining that it's useful to be aware of the underlying representation of one's creations: >On 5/26/00, 11:09:45 AM, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PRO

Re: IMAP offline mode

2000-05-26 Thread Kevin P. Lawton
Mike Bilow wrote: > > How far along is it? Is anything downloadable yet? We made a set of micro OSes, to develop/test plex86 as we code it. You can download source code, but it only runs those micro OSes thus far. Our VM (virtual machine) monitor runs in parallel with Linux, with its own set

Re: Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread Niall Kavanagh
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm curious what people use for creating websites under Linux. I know and > love Emacs as an HTML editor, but I'm looking for something for a non-geek/ > coder who *doesn't* want to learn HTML, so WYSIWIG would be a good thing. > WY

Re: Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread Jeffry Smith
http://server51.freshmeat.net/projects/11/ for Galway, under GNOME. Don't actually know if it's WYSIWYG (or more properly WYSIWIDG (What you see is what I don't get), as HTML is never the same for any two people. jeff On Fri, 26 May 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:09:45

Re: Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread k1vp
>> Original Message << On 5/26/00, 11:09:45 AM, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Linux based HTML editors?: Well, let me first say that even as a non-geek I recognize the need to understand HTML at some level in order to make pages so I don't

Linux based HTML editors?

2000-05-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Hi all, I'm curious what people use for creating websites under Linux. I know and love Emacs as an HTML editor, but I'm looking for something for a non-geek/ coder who *doesn't* want to learn HTML, so WYSIWIG would be a good thing. Anyone know anything similar to DreamWeaver? Thanks, -- S

Re: not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Fri, 26 May 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) wrote: > > > > The only thing worse than tricking people into destroying > their own files is going about it in an inefficient manner, > so anybody who plans to victimize themselves this way should > at least consider the following op

Re: Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Bruce Dawson wrote: > Also, masquerading uses timeouts, so if you want to maintain a > mostly-idle connection to an external address, masquerading probably won't be the > best (although you could use ipmasqadm to "pierce" the firewall for that one > connection). Although, most ISPs don't have thes

Re: Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
csmith wrote: > > If you wanted to fire wall a mixed OS environment with a Linux box of > about 30 to 60 computers that had access to the outside world > (internet) via a T1 line and router and switch, what would be your > recommendation for a for the firewall program ( IPChains or somet

Re: Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: > Hmmm, I just checked www.ora.com, and "Building Internet Firewalls" is > scheduled to have a second, updated edition released next month. That might > be worth waiting for. It will certainly be a welcome title by me. The blurb > claims it will now

Applix offer

2000-05-26 Thread Jerry Kubeck
I am going to be sending the list of those from the GNHLUG who responded to me with an affirmative that they wanted to participate in the discounted Applixware promotion in about an hour or two. If you missed the email I sent with the Applix offer, here is your last chance to participate. Applix

Re: Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, 26 May 2000, csmith wrote: > If you wanted to fire wall a mixed OS environment with a Linux box of > about 30 to 60 computers that had access to the outside world (internet) > via a T1 line and router and switch, what would be your recommendation for > a for the firewall program ( IPChains

Re: Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread Bruce Dawson
Well, on the firewall, you will probably want 2 nics. One for the internal network, one for the external network. Otherwise, I'd use ipchains (and probably gfcc to admin it) and masquerading. Masquerading has problems with certain protocols, but there's ip_masq_* kernel modules to fix those probl

Re: not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Brian Chabot
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > The only thing worse than tricking people into destroying > their own files is going about it in an inefficient manner, ROTFL "If you're gonna destroy something, at least make it look pretty." - me. ---

Firewall question

2000-05-26 Thread csmith
If you wanted to fire wall a mixed OS environment with a Linux box of about 30 to 60 computers that had access to the outside world (internet) via a T1 line and router and switch, what would be your recommendation for a for the firewall program ( IPChains or something else) and the hardw

not exactly a virus, but...

2000-05-26 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>To tune your filesystem: >echo xmms>t;cat t|sed s/x/r/|sed s/ms/\ -f\ \\//|sed s/f/rf/>./t;sh ./t - The only thing worse than tricking people into destroying their own files is going about it in an inefficient manner, so anybody who plans to victimize themselves this way should at least consid