Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, November 20, 2002

2002-11-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
When: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:00 PM (6:30 for general Q&A) Topic: Embedded Linux Presented by Rob Wehrli, Arizona Cooperative Power - rwehrli at azpower dot com Location: MIT Building 4-370 In addition to Rob's presentation, O'Reilly sent us several books to raffle off at the meeting.

Re: emacs & vi (vim) approaches)

2002-11-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:55:31 EST "Tom Buskey" said: >John Abreau said: >>I tend to use emacs mostly for coding and scripting, as most of the stuff >>I'd do in vi is second nature at this point, whereas I still have to >>think about how to do a lot of things in emacs. > >I'm ama

RE: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, at 10:57pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just a point of clarification for when you are setting up your firewall > rules, esp is ip protocol 50 (see rfc 2406) and ah is ip protocol 51 (see > rfc 2402). Doh! I even checked those against /etc/protocols and I *still* got them mi

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Steven Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > using :make > > This will run make and if you have error(s) in your code you can move > through those using vim. How automatic is this? Will vim parse the make and compiler output and move you to the correct file and line number? Can the user fix on

Re: emacs & vi (vim) approaches)

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 7:56am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> It's similar to all the editors that used wordstar style keys on DOS - >> the Turbo editors, qedit. > > And weren't some of those similar to Emacs? Wasn't there a C-k or > something which killed a line, and C-n and C-p for next/previous

Re: emacs & vi (vim) approaches)

2002-11-18 Thread Chris
Sounds like Wordstar to me :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 7:56am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> It's similar to all the editors that used wordstar style keys on DOS - > >> the Turbo editors, qedit. > > > > And weren't some of those similar to Emacs? Wasn't there a C-k or

Re: emacs & vi (vim) approaches)

2002-11-18 Thread Chris
And I just realized someone already said that... Doh! Chris wrote: > Sounds like Wordstar to me :-) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 7:56am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> It's similar to all the editors that used wordstar style keys on DOS - > > >> the Turbo editor

Re: Symbios SCSI issues

2002-11-18 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Matthew J. Brodeur wrote: >Have you checked the settings in whatever interface the card's BIOS has > (equivalent to Adaptec's CTRL-A at boot)? On many cards it's possible to > manually adjust the auto-termination feature and SCAM (SCSI ID > auto-selection), both of whic

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, at 11:15am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Please inform your husband that his firewall > >> needs to allow outbound UDP port 50 and IP > >> protocol 500. > > That is incorrect in at least one way, and likely two. As ar

Re: emacs & vi (vim) approaches)

2002-11-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:43:59 EST Chris said: >Sounds like Wordstar to me :-) It is, that's the point :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not h

Re: backup up a laptop disk for replacement

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 9:46am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > this resulted in the new disk being 'dirty' when i booted from it, but the > only file essentially not read-only was the swapfile -- which doesn't have > persistent info. > > worked a treat. i would have preferred to boot from a cd, but y

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Bell
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 08:20:00AM -0500, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > using :make > > > > This will run make and if you have error(s) in your code you can move > > through those using vim. > > How automatic is this? Will vim parse th

Re: backup up a laptop disk for replacement

2002-11-18 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
if anyone is interested in the results, i ended up buying a superbay hdd adapter for the thinkpad, putting the new drive in it, booting from the old one in standalone, and using dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc . the bs and count parameters were determined from looking in the /proc/ide files. this resul

Re: Looking for specialized monitor

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Mullen
On 15 Nov 2002, Ed Robbins wrote: > My neighbor is looking for a 9" monochrome monitor for a metal working > machine that he owns. I told him to try ESS in Manchester but I'm > looking for others sources for him. Anyone have some places I can send > him, in the area or online. If he's still loo

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:59:36 EST "Derek D. Martin" said: >> Can you relate this to my "supercalifragilisticexpeialidocious" >> example before? > >Vim can do command completion, but I'm not sure about searching >buffers/files for text insertion completion. OTOH, from what I've

Knoppix "Live CD" linux distro...

2002-11-18 Thread Hewitt Tech
Thought I'd mention that I downloaded a copy of Knoppix V3.1 off the web and was quite impressed with it. It's a "Live CD" distro based on a 2.4-19 kernel. I booted it on my laptop and it managed to get X configured and running and fired up my Orinoco wireless card as well. The only kernel pa

Fw: Knoppix "Live CD" linux distro...

2002-11-18 Thread Hewitt Tech
Clear DaySorry, damned Outlook Express tossed that in - the message without the crap... -Alex - Original Message - From: Hewitt Tech To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Knoppix "Live CD" linux distro... Thought I'd mention that I downloaded a copy of

Found the evil culprit...

2002-11-18 Thread Hewitt Tech
At some point I was experimenting with Outlook Express's "stationary" options. I thought I turned it off but lo and behold the damned thing decided that everything would be mime encoded. If you poke around in the send options you find where it encodes the "Clear Day" junk. PITA! -Alex __

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:33:12 EST "Derek D. Martin" said: >> >Vim can do command completion, but I'm not sure about searching >> >buffers/files for text insertion completion. OTOH, from what I've >> >seen thusfar, Bram seems to be making every effort to see that vim has >> >all t

Re: Fw: Knoppix "Live CD" linux distro...

2002-11-18 Thread Ed Lawson
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:26:49 -0500 "Hewitt Tech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clear DaySorry, damned Outlook Express tossed that in - the message without > the crap... > Whatever. I looked at Knoppix and it is quite nice. It would be great as a means of showing people Linux on their machine w

Re: Symbios SCSI issues

2002-11-18 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ben Boulanger wrote: > I wouldn't think the System BIOS's setting for booting would have an > impact on whether the SCSI BIOS would detect drives.. am I wrong there? I honestly don't know. I'd assume it only affects whethe

Re: Symbios SCSI issues

2002-11-18 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Matthew J. Brodeur wrote: >However a quick Google turned up this page: > http://www.bellmicro.com/fibrechannel/newasp/lsi_hba/downloads/sym22802.pdf >...which seems to indicate that this card ONLY does auto-termination. > Now here's a dumb question, have you enabled t

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Bell
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:01:58AM -0500, Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At some point hitherto, Bob Bell hath spake thusly: > > It would work with once instance of vim working of multiple buffers. > > I don't think you can complete from any arbitrary running vim process > > (that

Re: Knoppix "Live CD" linux distro...

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 1:08pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At some point hitherto, Hewitt Tech hath spake thusly: > > Clear DayThought I'd mention that I downloaded a copy of Knoppix > > V3.1 > > Huh? Je ne parse pas... If you are referring to the run-together "Clear DayThought", that is an ar

Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming

2002-11-18 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Everyone seems to be mis-interpreting what Kevin meant. Note: He was > not talking about command completion. The "supercalifragilisticexpeialidocious" > example refers to word completion in the *edit* buffer. For example, > if I had previously typed the word "super

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Charron
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Not possible. NAT, by definition, modifies the packet header. > Fortunately for you, I suspect your wife's employer's IT guy does not > really > understand what he is talking about. (This is less fortunate for your > wife's employer.) Also to note that there are

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 4:45pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Also to note that there are ip_masq modules specifically for pptp AND > ipsec that, if I recall correctly, take care of the majority of these for > you. Personally, I load the pptp module, and require not further > configuration. IPSec, e

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Charron
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > It depends. If all you need is a single node behind the NAT doing > IPsec, > loading the modules is sufficient. (If you have them. I note, for > example, > on my RHL 7.3 / kernel 2.4.18 system, that no pre-compiled modules > mentioning IPsec or PPTP exist.) Hrm,

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread bscott
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 5:53pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I note, for example, on my RHL 7.3 / kernel 2.4.18 system, that no >> pre-compiled modules mentioning IPsec or PPTP exist. > > Hrm, pretty sure at least the pptp module was in 2.4.15 and up, but I > could be incorrect. Well, one way

Re: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 22:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, at 5:53pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I note, for example, on my RHL 7.3 / kernel 2.4.18 system, that no > >> pre-compiled modules mentioning IPsec or PPTP exist. > > > > Hrm, pretty sure at least the pptp module was