Re: [OT] help w/ bitwise comparison operators

2003-03-24 Thread Erik Price
Derek D. Martin wrote: At some point hitherto, Erik Price hath spake thusly: Do you really have to convert the number to binary and then do a digit-for-digit comparison? Bear in mind that if this is for an exam, your prof will likely want to SEE the binary conversion of the two numbers. It

What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Jon Hall
Hi, I am writing a talk on What Excites Me about Linux. The object of this talk is to not only talk about the philosophical things that excites me, but honest to goodness neat programs. For example, gnomemeeting excites *ME* since it will allow me to videoconference with people while I am on

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Marc Evans
I personally find the intelligent multihomed routing stuff produced by Sockeye Networks really useful and cool. - Marc On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Jon Hall wrote: Hi, I am writing a talk on What Excites Me about Linux. The object of this talk is to not only talk about the philosophical things

RE: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Travis Roy
It's either a version leap (keep the version number close to other Linux dists).. Why would I buy Linux 8 from this RedHat company when I can get Linux 9 from this other company (I know it's wrong, but people looking at a box and know nothing about linux). Or, it's VERY close to April 1st (for

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: 24 Mar 2003 15:48:05 EST Jeff Macdonald said: Interesting, not even a point release for Redhat 8.0! Why does that scare me :) Was 8.0 that bad that only another .0 release could fix it? Or was 8.0 really that stable? (would be a good thing :) If 8.0 was really that

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread bscott
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, at 3:59pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was 8.0 that bad that only another .0 release could fix it? Again: Red Hat's long-standing policy on version numbers is that the major number gets bumped when they break binary compatibility. This typically means a new version of GCC or

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread pll
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, md == Jon Hall wrote: md I know that some people like The Gimp, and I know that Paul md Lussier likes GNUcash, but what other Open Source programs do md you think are either stellar, close to stellar, or rapidly md approaching stellar? I have to say, that though I

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 15:31, Jon Hall wrote: Hi, I am writing a talk on What Excites Me about Linux. The object of this talk is to not only talk about the philosophical things that excites me, but honest to goodness neat programs. For example, gnomemeeting excites *ME* since it will

RE: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread bscott
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, at 4:10pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their BlueCurve thing didn't go over to well.. As far as I have been able to determine, 99% of people really didn't care about BlueCurve. It's a bloody UI theme, for crying out loud. All the noise came from a small but vocal fringe

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:25:31 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, at 3:59pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was 8.0 that bad that only another .0 release could fix it? Again: Red Hat's long-standing policy on version numbers is that the major number gets bumped when

RE: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Travis Roy
Was 8.0 that bad that only another .0 release could fix it? That would be my guess.. Their BlueCurve thing didn't go over to well.. Plus it can't play or encode MP3s out of the box.. not that it's hard to fix, but it was annoying. 8.0 is also EXTREAMLY bloated. There were some things I liked

Re: Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 -- Get it Early

2003-03-24 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 18:59, Derek D. Martin wrote: If there were still any doubt... - Forwarded message from Red Hat Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] - We've recently made some changes to Red Hat Network based on survey data that we received from you. We found that two items of extreme

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:59:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: 24 Mar 2003 15:48:05 EST Jeff Macdonald said: Interesting, not even a point release for Redhat 8.0! Why does that scare me :) Was 8.0 that bad that only another .0 release could fix it? Bah. I

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Bayard Coolidge
What excites me about Linux? - Multiple possible solutions for the same problem. I am in the midst of some legal work, and the lawyer e-mailed the parties a document with a .wpd document. I first threw it at StarOffice 5.2, and it gagged. Nothing with a '.wpd' suffix was in the menu, and I

RE: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 20:19, Paul Iadonisi wrote: snip NPTL = Native Posix Thread Library I can't wait till they add epoll. Perhaps 9.1? A patch was released today for 2.4.20. -- Jeff Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Into birding? Check out http://www.migratus.com signature.asc Description: This

[OT]: Default PW on Sun A1000 or PW recovery?

2003-03-24 Thread Ben Boulanger
Anyone know if there is a/what the default password is on the Sun StorEdge A1000 is? Anyone know how to do the equivalent of a password recovery on it? Ben -- Thought for the day: Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or a week earlier if you are a paying RHN customer. Interesting, not even a point release for Redhat 8.0! So something changed in the build environment that's not backward compatible to 8.x. Maybe the

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Bruce Dawson
Sigh. I chose Linux over the alternatives for the following reasons: 1. High value. Very high value. Did I say the cost/performance ratio was extraordinarily good? 2. Reliability. I don't have to reboot my system every time I add or remove software.

Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 -- Get it Early

2003-03-24 Thread Jon Hall
Ordinarily yes, but I heard from a reliable source that this is a Sun-like marketing move. In this case I think it is a very professional-like marketing move. I recently got a blast from Codeweavers (makers of Crossover) which warned me not to update to the latest glibc libraries from Red Hat

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I am writing a talk on What Excites Me about Linux. The object of this talk is to not only talk about the philosophical things that excites me, but honest to goodness neat programs. I don't know if you'd

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Travis, I don't think that's a very fair assessment. I've been using RH8 on virtually all my systems since it came out, and it's been rock-solid. Frankly, I think it is the best release of ANY Linux

RE: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 16:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] (Insert snide remark about Red Hat's history of selective license compliance here.) Hey, it's a big job. I wouldn't call it selective. It just takes time. Take a look at the release notes and you'll see that pine is now

Re: Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 -- Get it Early

2003-03-24 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hopefully they will also allow people to link to the older library if needed. As I recall, they've always included a bunch of compat-* rpms for such backward compatibility. I just took a look at 8.0, and I see,

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Kevin D. Clark
You seem to be asking about applications. I apologize, I'm not a heavy application user. Or, at least, not typical applications. (are XEmacs and gcc applications? they're probably what I use most) My admiration of Unix (and Linux in particular) can be summed up in this quote: With a

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:19:08PM -0500, Paul Iadonisi wrote: NPTL broke *lots* of things and many apps that run on 9.0 won't run on 8.0 (and vice-versa) without tweaking. A bump in the major number is consistent with Red Hat's policy in this case. NPTL = Native Posix Thread Library I'm

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Mark Komarinski
A few of my favorite things: 1) Software that has not been touched in 8+ years still works. It may have wacky requirements (*mutter* 8-bit apps), but it runs and people can use it. This is like running an app written for Windows 3.1 in Windows 2000. 2) Applications, applications, applications.

Re: What Excites You?

2003-03-24 Thread Greg Rundlett
I love grip. Insert CD, auto-connect to freedb.org, burn to ogg in two clicks, dumping files into my netjuke directory. I love Apache, PHP, and MySQL which allow me to play said music using any computer connected to the internet. Which, by the way, lets me share my music collection with my

Re: Redhat 9.0 coming out April 7th

2003-03-24 Thread Rob Lembree
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 15:48, Jeff Macdonald wrote: Or a week earlier if you are a paying RHN customer. Interesting, not even a point release for Redhat 8.0! Well, now doesn't that figure. Here I am, working on a great presentation for the MerriLUG on Wednesday night on RH8.0.. I hope