Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Freeman
Woops. I meant to send this to more than just Josh. Follow up: I went with the ZaReason "Strata 6770", pimped out with the slower (2.2GHz versus 2.5GHz) core i7, 8GB RAM, a 750GB 7200RPM disk, and Tux logo and on the key between FN and left Alt (nominally the "Windows" key). I did wind up repl

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-23 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
"Brian St. Pierre" writes: > > On 04/12/2012 03:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > > I know people who enjoyed their dealings with System76, also: > > > > http://www.system76.com/ > > I'm one of those people -- writing this on one of their laptops. I also > own a netbook. Speaking of netbo

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/15/2012 04:21 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > Actually, I'm considering a new laptop, too. I love my Gateway, but it lacks > one significant thing: the ability to hold 8 GB of RAM, which is *really > handy* > for running virtuals. Additionally, if I need that extra oomph to run 64-bit > virtua

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen > wrote: >> You have to pick `what kind of business you are' *before* you pick >> what broad class of device you want to look at. >> >> I hate other people's ontologies, sometimes > >  De

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Brian St. Pierre
On 04/12/2012 03:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > I know people who enjoyed their dealings with System76, also: > > http://www.system76.com/ I'm one of those people -- writing this on one of their laptops. I also own a netbook. The laptop has been good. No major complaints. It's heavy and

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 18:48 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Bill Freeman wrote: > >> You're looking at the wrong part. CPUs are commodities these days. > > > > Not quite, if I understand correctly. I wouldn't want, for example, a > > core i3, since it doesn't support

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > You have to pick `what kind of business you are' *before* you pick > what broad class of device you want to look at. > > I hate other people's ontologies, sometimes Dell is particularly bad when it comes to this. Their various

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Bill Freeman wrote: >>  You're looking at the wrong part.  CPUs are commodities these days. > > Not quite, if I understand correctly.  I wouldn't want, for example, a > core i3, since it doesn't support  "virtualization technology", so I > wouldn't be able to run 6

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Actually, I'm considering a new laptop, too. I love my Gateway, but it lacks one significant thing: the ability to hold 8 GB of RAM, which is *really handy* for running virtuals. Additionally, if I need that extra oomph to run 64-bit virtuals that i3's don't have, that would be big, too. So: - 1

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/15/2012 08:36 AM, Bill Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Ben Scott wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: >>> Any bad experiences with the i7 CPU? >> You're looking at the wrong part. CPUs are commodities these days. >> Core logic chipset, video ch

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-15 Thread Bill Freeman
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: >> Any bad experiences with the i7 CPU? > >  You're looking at the wrong part.  CPUs are commodities these days. > Core logic chipset, video chipset, disk controller, network controller > ar

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-14 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Joshua Judson Rosen writes: > > Ben Scott writes: > > > > For what I expect you expect in a laptop, I recommend the Latitude > > line instead. Inspiron is their consumer line, designed for people > > who buy based on price and the color of the lid. Latitude is the > > business line, designed

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-14 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Ben Scott writes: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: > > Can anyone offer personal experience stories on the Dell Inspirons? > > For what I expect you expect in a laptop, I recommend the Latitude > line instead. Inspiron is their consumer line, designed for people > who

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-14 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: > Can anyone offer personal experience stories on the Dell Inspirons? For what I expect you expect in a laptop, I recommend the Latitude line instead. Inspiron is their consumer line, designed for people who buy based on price and the color

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/13/2012 04:17 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > > C'mon. We're in New Hampshire/MA. I can't believe nobody's mentioned my > personal favorite: https://www.google.com/search?q=decwriter > > After the computer labs closed for the night on my campus, there was one > VT-102 > per dorm. Except for o

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Bill Freeman
On 4/13/12, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:11:11 -0400 Bill Freeman wrote > >> On 4/13/12, Ric Werme wrote: >> > And the 1366x768 display isn't as friendly as my 1600x1200 desktop >> > monitor. >> > We really used 640x480 displays once upon a time? At least those were >> > (most

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Tom Buskey
Crud... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > You sent this to me not the list. > > On 04/13/2012 09:21 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: > > I used to get Toshiba. I liked the physical volume knob they *used* > > to have. > > > > My last 2 purchases were IBM/Lenovo. A cheap G450 which

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:11:11 -0400 Bill Freeman wrote > On 4/13/12, Ric Werme wrote: > > And the 1366x768 display isn't as friendly as my 1600x1200 desktop monitor. > > We really used 640x480 displays once upon a time? At least those were > > (mostly) better than Teletypes, and those were bette

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Bill Freeman
Many thanks to all. I have several avenues to explore, now that my taxes are done. I'll report back with my decision. Bill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Bill Freeman
On 4/13/12, Ric Werme wrote: > And the 1366x768 display isn't as friendly as my 1600x1200 desktop monitor. > We really used 640x480 displays once upon a time? At least those were > (mostly) better than Teletypes, and those were better than keypunches. There was time of 320x200. And I remember F

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Chip Marshall
On 13-Apr-2012, David Ohlemacher sent: > My last laptop was (still in use) a Lenovo T61. It was > mistakenly ordered with Vista. We only used XP and Linux. When > XP was installed, it just never worked - blue screened every > day. So I inherited the misfit and installed Linux. Works > great. It is

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Susan Cragin
Well, here's my two cents. I have a Lenovo X201 tablet. It was expensive and the screen is small and you probably don't need a tablet. But, because the screen gets jerked around so much, it seems to be made better than other Thinkpad models. The assembly is much sturdier and the screen can be

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Shawn O'Shea
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, David Ohlemacher wrote: > > I looked at Dell and bought a Precision M6500 I7. Dell gives us pretty > good corp discounts. It is currently running LMDE(xfce). It has been > great. We have several, others running Windoze.One coworker has had > nothing but tro

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread David Ohlemacher
Hello Bill, My last laptop was (still in use) a Lenovo T61. It was mistakenly ordered with Vista. We only used XP and Linux. When XP was installed, it just never worked - blue screened every day.So I inherited the misfit and installed Linux. Works great. It is a nice work horse. Nice keybd.

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Alan Johnson
Asus has great laptop hardware, support, and protection plans available. They tend to be very Linux friendly and some models are available with Linux installed, last I knew, or maybe just with no OS. The current ASUS website does not lend itself to figuring this out, or figuring out which model is

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bill Freeman writes: > Can anyone offer personal experience stories on the Dell Inspirons? I've got a Dell Inspirion 1525 that I paid $400 for at the Dell refurbished outlet (online). The machine is 3-4 years old at this point. I use it for a couple of hours most days. It's a $400 laptop. It

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Ric Werme
Less useful account, perhaps. In order to put off upgrading my Suse 10.1 desktop system (Firefox V2), last year I decided to buy a cheap laptop, and found a $150 off deal on a Lenovo G560 system for $400. I forget the specs, let me know if you want them. It came with Windows 7 Home, the old lapt

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/12/2012 03:06 PM, Randy Cole wrote: > I've been rather disappointed with my few year old HP DV4-1222NR AMD > consumer-grade laptop. Slower than it should be, runs hot, power > adapter failed, battery failed early, mouse button broke, fan is now > failing, and the IDT sound chip has lots of dr

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-13 Thread Jerry Feldman
We have Lenovo Laptops at work. Some are T420 (Intel i5) and some are T220 (Celeron). We've installed Virtualbox on some with 64-bit RHEL 5 as a guest OS. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 signa

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On 04/12/2012 04:01 PM, Bill Freeman wrote: > > I find the touchpads annoying enough (my thumb brushing it > unintentionally) that I don't like either, and virtually always use > an external mouse. But the nub is no draw for me. I, myself, *love* the nubs, but for practical reasons, wound up with

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Bill Freeman
On 4/12/12, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > I have experience with ZaReason, and recommend them: > > http://www.zareason.com/ > > I know people who enjoyed their dealings with System76, also: > > http://www.system76.com/ I'll consider these, thanks. > When I bought my and my wife's Thinkp

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Bill Freeman writes: > > My Acer is scaring me. Sometimes at startup it goes into an infinite > reboot loop. The way out seems to be to force power off, flex the > case and whack it a few times, after which it boots. > > So, I'm considering replacing it. Last round I insisted on an AMD > CPU,

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread David Hardy
My own day job has me with a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 which has been pretty solid and fast. It came with XP and is ready for 7 and I have a vm on it with CentOS 6. The company is now issuing more Thinkpads that come with 8GB RAM and an option of RH, Fedora or Ubuntu. The RH laptop of a colleague i

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Randy Cole
I've been rather disappointed with my few year old HP DV4-1222NR AMD consumer-grade laptop. Slower than it should be, runs hot, power adapter failed, battery failed early, mouse button broke, fan is now failing, and the IDT sound chip has lots of driver support trouble vis. built-in mic ("HD microp

Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Nolin
My $DAYJOB has provided me with a rather capable Lenovo ThinkPad  CORE i7 W520.  rather large for the daily commute the size of the power brick is unreasonable looks like an actual full size brick.  Never had problems running Linux on the ThinkPad products.  Unfortunately it was pre-installed

I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

2012-04-12 Thread Bill Freeman
My Acer is scaring me. Sometimes at startup it goes into an infinite reboot loop. The way out seems to be to force power off, flex the case and whack it a few times, after which it boots. So, I'm considering replacing it. Last round I insisted on an AMD CPU, but I'm currently drawn to an i7 or