Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-25 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 23, 2007, at 11:28, Ben Scott wrote: > Accidentally blowing oneself up is not considered illegal, and, in > your case Travis, could actually be seen as a public service. Well thank goodness the Law has realized that the value of Travis's life is fleeting compared with the loss of poten

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Ben Scott
On 23 May 2007 16:57:32 -0400, Kevin D. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.learner.org/resources/series42.html > > Hmm...the last time I tried that site, my computer didn't really deal > with those videos very well, but now it seems to be almost at the > point of playing them. FWIW

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Michael ODonnell writes: > Hey! I love The Mechanical Universe, with the prof standing > at the front of the class and mixing his dry (nerdy?) wit into > the material as he lectures, and all those early animations by > James Blinn - now *that's* entertainment. I think it's here: > > http://w

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
> For a while now I have been interested in re-watching a show > that used to be on PBS when I was...younger. It was called "The > Mechanical Universe". It was a physics show that used a lot > of computer graphics to illustrate the mathematical principles > behind physics. Hey! I love The Mec

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Paul Lussier writes: > http://www.smartflix.com For a while now I have been interested in re-watching a show that used to be on PBS when I was...younger. It was called "The Mechanical Universe". It was a physics show that used a lot of computer graphics to illustrate the mathematical principle

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:00, Thomas Charron wrote: > On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it > > back into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. > > Statement of fact, instead of opinion apperently. :-P

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, May 22nd 2007 at 14:53 -0400, quoth Thomas Charron: =>On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> > You where dumb enough to WATCH it? :-) I thought you said =>> > you vote with your wallet... =>> I used to

Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/23/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how > to make a mine better or worse than sending a URL on where to get > torrent files? Accidentally blowing oneself up is not considered illegal, and, in your case Travis, could

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that I am against the populous having their thoughts and desires centrally controlled. (As Marx would say, "The opiate of the people.") With out this consumption-driving device, our consumer society would collapse, devastating my stock

Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/23/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OMG, Ben! > > http://smartflix.com/store/video/300/How-To-Construct-Mines > > How to blow yourself up in one simply instructional video! :-) > Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how > to make a mine better or

Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Travis Roy
> > OMG, Ben! > > http://smartflix.com/store/video/300/How-To-Construct-Mines > > How to blow yourself up in one simply instructional video! :-) Is having a link showing you how to get something that describes how to make a mine better or worse than sending a URL on where to get torren

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/23/07, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it back > into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. Statement of fact, instead of opinion apperently. :-P >Try this some time. Record the sound of your favorite "ed

Re: WICKED OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/23/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Make sure you check availability, not just a hit for a show. > > Mythbusters, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Ask This Old House have a > > very poor showing on Netflix, though there are some hits. T

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 18:49, Dan Jenkins wrote: > It's been well over a decade since I've watched television. Do get a > lot more reading done. I quit is 1987. I don't know how I would find time to fit it back into my schedule now. It is such a waste of time. > Does cut down on "water c

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/23/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How about a more EO (equal offense) quote: "Opinions are like > > assholes: Everybody has one, and they almost always stink!" > Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically > contr

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Travis Roy
> > Why not make the show downloadable for free but sell advertising and > put the commercials in the show. Sure, they can be ellided, but > seriously, who's going to bother? Yah, because writing a program to run the content through and auto- delete the commercials is so much harder than crackin

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make sure you check availability, not just a hit for a show. > Mythbusters, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Ask This Old House have a > very poor showing on Netflix, though there are some hits. This Old > House, New Yankee Workshop, and Good Eats

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But how can they allow you do watch it whenever you want, and >> disallow someone to distribute it for free without paying ANYTHING for >> it? > > I don't necessarily have the answers to their quandaries. I just > know that I'm not going to pay to no

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Travis Roy
> > Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically > controlled 'snif test', but do you have any even anecdotal evidence > that there are any sphincters which do NOT have an undesirable odor > thereby supporting the 'always' portion of your above statement ? Go to PubMed (http://w

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about a more EO (equal offense) quote: "Opinions are like > assholes: Everybody has one, and they almost always stink!" Not that I have, or care to perform a proper and scientifically controlled 'snif test', but do you have any even anecdotal eviden

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/22/07, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ben Scott wrote: > Alternative #1: > > Stop watching TV. Radical idea, I know, not buying a product you don't like. :) > It's been well over a decade since I've watched television. Do get a lot more reading done. Does cut down on "water co

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives

2007-05-22 Thread Dan Jenkins
Thomas Charron wrote: > On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 5/22/07, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Of course, voting with your wallet, when no one knows, isn't that >>> effective. >>> >> Hmmm. >> /me ponders getting selected for a Nielsen TV sur

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, voting with your wallet, when no one knows, isn't that > > effective. > Hmmm. > /me ponders getting selected for a Nielsen TV survey but never > watching anything... Might confu

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, voting with your wallet, when no one knows, isn't that > effective. Hmmm. /me ponders getting selected for a Nielsen TV survey but never watching anything... -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss ma

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Dan Jenkins
Ben Scott wrote: > Alternative #1: > > Stop watching TV. Radical idea, I know, not buying a product you don't > like. :) > It's been well over a decade since I've watched television. Do get a lot more reading done. Does cut down on "water cooler conversations" though. Does mean I have t

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 22, 2007, at 12:12, Ben Scott wrote: > > I'm seriously considering dropping my cable TV service and just > > using NetFlix or the Internet for everything. I was checking > > recently, and most of what I watch on TV now is available

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 22, 2007, at 12:12, Ben Scott wrote: > I'm seriously considering dropping my cable TV service and just > using NetFlix or the Internet for everything. I was checking > recently, and most of what I watch on TV now is available via NetFlix. Make sure you check availability, not just a hi

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a good point. If it was available on demand, I might consider it. http://shopping.discovery.com/category-1_VIDEODOWNLOADS.html?jzid=40600404-2-0 As I wrote earlier, this is getting closer. It's not here yet, but closer. >> The

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:31:20 Tom Buskey wrote: > On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Be aware that, with MythTV, you need a capture device (i.e., tuner > > card) per simultaneous recording, and there are limits to how much > > stuff you can stuff down a PCI bus. Four simultan

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But by me not purchasing DirecTV, I'm ALSO affecting the Discovery > > Channel. And our explosively minded friends. > http://shopping.discovery.com/stores/servlet/Jumpzone?di=40588004&ci=

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You where dumb enough to WATCH it? :-) I thought you said > > you vote with your wallet... > I used to be proud to say that I had never seen an episode of > "American Idol" or "S

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, just like the special Olympics, we're still all.. Wait, that > might offend someone. :-) It's not the same without the picture, anyway. :) How about a more EO (equal offense) quote: "Opinions are like assholes: Everybody has o

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally, there are many programs that I enjoy tremendously that > > are quite fun and informative. > Moi aussi. But if I don't find the overall deal worth it, I won't buy it. The co

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, brk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since none of it was offensive (and the rest was uncensored), I can >> only assume > > Ayup. Absolutely. Ass-u-me. But regardless of HBO's rationale, the fact remains that the entire production was not being delivered. I don't really care why

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You where dumb enough to WATCH it? :-) I thought you said > you vote with your wallet... I used to be proud to say that I had never seen an episode of "American Idol" or "Survivor", but Am Idol was on a TV in a bar I was in once,

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Be aware that, with MythTV, you need a capture device (i.e., tuner card) per simultaneous recording, and there are limits to how much stuff you can stuff down a PCI bus. Four simultaneous recordings may be pushing it on anything but a high-end

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread brk
On May 22, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > > Since none of it was offensive (and the rest was uncensored), I can > only assume Ayup. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlu

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Either I'm a really boring person or TV is getting much better. > Or we've seen so many years of "Survivor: Vermont" crap that our > standards have been lowered to the point where even desc

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Steven W. Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either I'm a really boring person or TV is getting much better. Or we've seen so many years of "Survivor: Vermont" crap that our standards have been lowered to the point where even descented excrement looks good by comparison. ;-) > I pay

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, there are many programs that I enjoy tremendously that > are quite fun and informative. Moi aussi. But if I don't find the overall deal worth it, I won't buy it. If everyone buys a product that doesn't provide the value desi

Re: TV Alternative (Was: Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?))

2007-05-22 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, May 22nd 2007 at 13:39 -0400, quoth Mark Komarinski: =>On 05/22/2007 12:21 PM, Travis Roy wrote: =>>> Internet distribution (the legal kind) is becoming more and more =>>> viable all the time. It's not there yet, but I'm watching closely (no =>>> pun intended). =>>> =>> =>> Cou

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, May 22nd 2007 at 12:12 -0400, quoth Ben Scott: =>On 5/22/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =>> Yah, that's really it.. What are your choices? Continue to get only a =>> few HD channels for who knows how long then be forced to upgrade =>> (probably without the discount) or switc

Re: TV Alternative (Was: Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?))

2007-05-22 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 05/22/2007 12:21 PM, Travis Roy wrote: >> Internet distribution (the legal kind) is becoming more and more >> viable all the time. It's not there yet, but I'm watching closely (no >> pun intended). >> > > Could you share some of your sources? Most of the stuff I've found is > either no

Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yah, that's really it.. What are your choices? Continue to get only a > > few HD channels for who knows how long then be forced to upgrade > > (probably without the discount) or switch to anothe

Re: TV Alternative (Was: Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?))

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well you're probably still going to get the "silly censorship" since > the show you get from Netflix is probably going to be the same as > what they showed over the air. Fair point. I expect that's true for programming originally intended for

TV Alternative (Was: Re: OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?))

2007-05-22 Thread Travis Roy
> > I'm seriously considering dropping my cable TV service and just > using NetFlix or the Internet for everything. I was checking > recently, and most of what I watch on TV now is available via NetFlix. > > There are benefits, too: No commercials to skip. No scenes/frames > being deleted to

OT: TV delivery alternatives (was: DirecTivo vs. 'New Direct TV DVR'?)

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yah, that's really it.. What are your choices? Continue to get only a > few HD channels for who knows how long then be forced to upgrade > (probably without the discount) or switch to another provider of TV, > all that are either more of a pain, c