Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-19 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 19, 2007, at 13:14, Ben Scott wrote: The only other public sector stuff I know of with this level of fault tolerance is medical life support equipment. We'd like to think so. The prevailing attitude among manufacturers in the 90's was "the FCC gives us an exemption for interference

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/18/07, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can your network survive the collapse of a building on top of it? s/a building/one of the biggest buildings in the world/ What other system is engineered for failure as well as the POTS stuff? Railroad signaling? Lunar Lander life support?

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-19 Thread Dan Jenkins
Paul Lussier wrote: Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Comcast service has been exemplary though, as long as we > haven't needed to call them. We finally replaced all our Verizon > lines with Vonage, as Vonage had far better sound quality and > reliability than Verizon's voice wires

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-18 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Tom Buskey writes: > What other system is engineered for failure as well as the POTS stuff? > Railroad signaling? Lunar Lander life support? Fighter aircraft? For some insights into how to implement software systems of this quality, look here: http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-18 Thread Tom Buskey
On 1/17/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In fairness, the 911concerns (well, the real ones) are not about > *if* calls can go through, but whether calls will *always* go through, > and properly. I'm sure I don't need to tell you, Paul, abo

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-18 Thread Tom Buskey
On 1/17/07, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To say nothing of the redundancies in conventional POTS design (which really is, in general, some of the most robust engineering I've ever seen in the public sector). (Emphisis POTS here -- anything more than -48 VDC talk battery and the whole

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-18 Thread Travis Roy
But, with Broadvoice, I have a choice. With Vonage, I don't. I suppose, though I don't feel I need a choice at this point. Oh, okay.. I guess we'll just switch back to one phone company so you get no choice at all. Hopefully they'll be willing to even offer VoIP services. :) _

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-17 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/17/07, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the 911 concerns are not about *if* calls can go through, but > whether calls will *always* go through, and properly It probably doesn't pay to be too arch about it - even the conventional land lines can have their problems. One icy nigh

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-17 Thread Michael ODonnell
> the 911 concerns are not about *if* calls can go through, but > whether calls will *always* go through, and properly It probably doesn't pay to be too arch about it - even the conventional land lines can have their problems. One icy night in southern Chelmsford approx 10 yrs ago my wife spun

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-17 Thread Paul Lussier
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In fairness, the 911concerns (well, the real ones) are not about > *if* calls can go through, but whether calls will *always* go through, > and properly. I'm sure I don't need to tell you, Paul, about the > differences between "seems to work" and "trust

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-17 Thread Paul Lussier
Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But, with Broadvoice, I have a choice. With Vonage, I don't. I suppose, though I don't feel I need a choice at this point. -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE A: Yes.

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-17 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/17/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, and I have had occasion to use 9-1-1 from my Vonage line and had emergency response within 10 minutes of the call. So, no worries there either! In fairness, the 911concerns (well, the real ones) are not about *if* calls can go through, b

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-17 Thread Travis Roy
I use Vonage over Broadvoice for one reason: I don't want to admin a phone system. I want something I can easily tell my wife how to deal with: Go pull the plug on the LinkSys box, count to 10, plug it back in. and Broadvoice has that. They have a plan that's about the same price as Vonage,

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-17 Thread Chip Marshall
On January 17, 2007, Paul Lussier sent me the following: > I use Vonage over Broadvoice for one reason: I don't want to admin a > phone system. I want something I can easily tell my wife how to deal > with: Go pull the plug on the LinkSys box, count to 10, plug it back > in. As I understand it, y

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon

2007-01-17 Thread Paul Lussier
Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just thought I'd drop in my 2 cents on this. > > I use Broadvoice over Vonage for one reason, that I would think would > be important for people on this list. > > It uses SIP and you can bring your own device, including an Asterisk > server. I use Vonage

Re: Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-17 Thread Travis Roy
I just thought I'd drop in my 2 cents on this. I use Broadvoice over Vonage for one reason, that I would think would be important for people on this list. It uses SIP and you can bring your own device, including an Asterisk server. I would rather go with the open standard and control over

Vonage vs. Verizon [was: Anyone had experience with Comcast SMC modem/router? ]

2007-01-17 Thread Paul Lussier
Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Comcast service has been exemplary though, as long as we haven't > needed to call them. We finally replaced all our Verizon lines with > Vonage, as Vonage had far better sound quality and reliability than > Verizon's voice wires could provide (at less