Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
:) My rationale was simply that Cygwin has a version of python new enough to suit my purposes (2.5.2), and it runs on Windows. And, it's better to have 1 version of python installed than more than one, which could possibly sow confusion amongst others who don't know better. Also, the Cygwin version

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Walter Mundt
Paul Lussier wrote: Also, the Cygwin version of python uses a normal UNIX-style path of /usr/bin/python, which makes it simpler to run the same python programs on both UNIX and Windows, which is one of my requirements. If you think going with the native Windows version of python is better

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
script directly, will that make a difference ? I'm not sure how different the cygwin environment is from the normal Windows environment. And when I ssh into the Windows system, I'm definitely under the Cygwin influence. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
Python downloads for windows are right on the website. Unless you have a pressing need to use the 3rd party cygwin version you should just download it from python.org If you're just starting out you should grab 3.0.1. It'll get you started right. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Lussier

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com writes: Python downloads for windows are right on the website. Unless you have a pressing need to use the 3rd party cygwin version you should just download it from python.org I'm not comfortable going with 3.x yet. We have vast amounts of legacy python from 2.x

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
on the Windows side (2.4). I do my development in Linux and just check test Windows. I have no idea how to do that... Also, given that I want to be able to ssh into the windows system and exec a python script directly, will that make a difference ? I'm not sure how different the cygwin environment

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
a difference ? I believe it will make a difference. I don't think Cygwin knows or cares about Windows file extension mappings. (Then again, it's been years and years since I touched Cygwin. My memory could be bad or the software could have evolved or I might have missed a feature.) Also

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because the Latest Release is Always Better(TM)! We all know that, right? ;-) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because the Latest Release is Always Better(TM)! We all know that, right? ;-) Re Py3, the

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:54:19 -0400 From: Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net wrote: Why are you using Cygwin's Python? Why not? Because

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: Re Py3, the issue at hand is that the community has been planning Py3 for years and has agreed to move to it. This migration is like a slinky, and And by what authority do you claim to know the will of the community? Any new Python-based projects should be

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: And by what authority do you claim to know the will of the community? Unless you're involved in the Python community under yet another monkier, why the hell are you even replying on this thread, much less arguing against me re:

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Raymond Cote
Arc Riley wrote: Any new Python-based projects should be Py3 based. It's self-defeating to do anything else. I'd be concerned about pushing new projects into yet unproven territory. As great as Python 3 is, there's still lots to be done. Still a lot of libraries that need to be updated to

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Raymond Cote rgac...@appropriatesolutions.com wrote: I'd be concerned about pushing new projects into yet unproven territory. Let's be clear here, Py3 isn't new territory. Python 3.0.0 was in alpha/beta for a long time and was released only after it was

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:13:11 -0400 From: Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com Unless you're involved in the Python community under yet another monkier, why the hell are you even replying on this thread, much less arguing against me re: Py3? Simply stated, I'm tired of listening to your claims

Re: Python, Windows, and Cygwin

2009-03-16 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:37 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Simply stated, I'm tired of listening to your claims about what *other* people think, believe, want, c. And simply stated, I'm tired of your trolling. Why Ben/etc continue to tolerate you on these lists I cannot fathom. If this

Re: OT: Cygwin/X on Windows XP

2006-12-27 Thread Seth Cohn
Use Xming instead. http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming On 12/27/06, Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm struggling with getting Cygwin/X working on Windows XP Pro. Whenever I start it, I get the attached log file. I've Googled the errors

Re: OT: Cygwin/X on Windows XP

2006-12-27 Thread Jason Stephenson
Erm, never mind, I fixed it by unmounting everything and reinstalling the fonts while the Cygwin bash window was still open. I found this solution by digging deeper into the Gmane Cygwin-x archives. Go figure. According to some posts that I've seen, that isn't supposed to fix it if you

Cygwin Fans

2003-02-11 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
This is a very interesting 'HOWTO' for all of you Cygwin fans. Brings W2K one step closer to a real computing environment. http://www.adamswann.com/library/2001/Cygwin-Inetd.html -- __ | 0|___||. Andrew Gaunt *nix Sys. Admin., etc. _| _| : : } [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www

Re: Cygwin Fans

2003-02-11 Thread Tom Buskey
Very cool. I've been looking for an easy to setup open source SSH server for windows for awhile. Andrew W. Gaunt said: This is a very interesting 'HOWTO' for all of you Cygwin fans. Brings W2K one step closer to a real computing environment. http://www.adamswann.com/library/2001/Cygwin

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Bruce Dawson
How does one go about specifying an alternate home directory in Cygwin? Right now, ~ == / and I'd rather it be /cygdrive/d/User\ Profiles/eprice export HOME=/cygdrive/d/User Profiles/eprice The above establishes your home directory - there really is no alternate home directory in Unix

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Michael O'Donnell
I don't know anything about CygWin but (on an obliquely related note) I can tell you that changing your home directory has a few gotchas on Linux because not every chunk of software figures out how to find a given account's home directory by the same method. For example, I recently was working

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:03:44 EST Erik Price said: Derek Martin wrote: It is mildly surprising to me that it worked as effectively as it did for you... The proper way to authoritatively find out a user's home directory is to use the pw_dir element of a struct passwd which

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Erik Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious why you think that is arcane[1]? I was about to remark something amazingly similar to mod, but got distracted and Derek beat me to it[2] :) That knowledge is indispensable to anyone who needs to debug user environments (e.g. a sysadmin). Are you

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread John Abreau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Erik Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because I didn't know it. And I had never heard of a getpwent() function, nor did I know that sysadmins often resorted to knowledge of C structs and pointers in

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:45:13 EST Erik Price said: Because I didn't know it. Okay, that's fair. And, I mistakenly applied a false definition to the word arcane (thinking it meant little known). But according to Merriam-Webster: Arcane: known or knowable

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:12:16 EST John Abreau said: MacOS X uses NetInfo (inherited from NeXT) to manage its password database. A, with Jobs at the helm again, this doesn't surprise me a bit :) Thanks for that tidbit John :) -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Erik Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the machine I *do* run is MacOS X, which doesn't use an /etc/passwd file for user info.) Really? I thought OS X was BSD? Where is user info stored? Is there an /etc/passwd file? NeXT machines used a database called NetInfo to store information that you'd

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
On my Windows 2K Domain controller 'userscomputers' settings I set my windows account 'home' drive to be a samba share (it lives on a linux box) and cygwin seems to use it. I think it is because I generated the cygwin /etc/passwd with 'mkpasswd -d 'my_w2k_domain'. The sharename is where

Re: home dir in cygwin

2003-02-06 Thread Bill Sconce
On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:56:07 -0500 Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one go about specifying an alternate home directory in Cygwin? Right now, ~ == / and I'd rather it be /cygdrive/d/User\ Profiles/eprice export HOME=/cygdrive/d/User Profiles/eprice The above

Re: cygwin

2003-01-21 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
Yes, one invokes ls etc. as usual, however, the output of ls shows the '.exe' extension which looks a bit wierd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, at 4:20pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will also reveals some of the differences when one compares the 'real' *nix to the cygwin

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another issue is that the Unix server at Northeastern is going away in the spring, and the school is pondering how to teach Unix. While I would prefer a dual boot (or VMWare) solution with Windows and Linux, Cygwin appears to be a pretty decent

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:55:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) wrote: Well, I dunno. cygwin might be a nice crutch for those students who are learning shell scripting, Makefiles, Perl, etc. but for those who are interested in learning the Unix/Posix API, cygwin can't hide

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
were available. Well, I can see where you're coming from, but IMO this solution lacks a very important aspect of learning Unix: getting the feel of a real Unix system. Yes, many of the same programs are available for Cygwin, but you're still using them on a Windows machine. I think

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread bscott
location. Classroom systems running MS-Windows, with Cygwin. SSH to Linux machine. Use SSH X11 forwarding and the X server that comes with Cygwin, and you can run X11 programs as well. Not only does that give them a real Unix system, but it nicely demonstrates Unix's excellent remote access

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:18:07 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How about this: One Linux machine in a central location. Classroom systems running MS-Windows, with Cygwin. SSH to Linux machine. Use SSH X11 forwarding and the X server that comes with Cygwin, and you can run X11

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
In a message dated: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:18:07 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How about this: One Linux machine in a central location. Classroom systems running MS-Windows, with Cygwin. SSH to Linux machine. Use SSH X11 forwarding and the X server that comes with Cygwin, and you can run X11

Re: cygwin

2003-01-17 Thread bscott
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, at 4:20pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will also reveals some of the differences when one compares the 'real' *nix to the cygwin environment. /bin/ls vs. /bin/ls.exe to name example. Doesn't Cygwin automatically hide the .exe extension, so you can just run ls or /bin/ls

cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread Erik Price
Does anyone on this list use Cygwin when they are using Windows? I use Win2k at work and was hoping to get that Linux feel with this program. Any advice or comments? Thanks, Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Erik Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone on this list use Cygwin when they are using Windows? I do. I use Win2k at work and was hoping to get that Linux feel with this program. Any advice or comments? Cygwin is very nice. It's probably the first thing that I install on a system

Re: cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
Erik, I have a W2K box as my daily use workstation. Believe it or not, it's actually by my choice as I happen to manage a W2K domain as an adjunct to our Unix/Linux environments. I loaded the cygwin environment a while ago and seem to be getting pulled into that direction. Funny eh? There's

Re: cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread Chris
Yes, I have it installed on all my Windows PCs I only use the command line version, but the X version is supposed to work very well too Erik Price wrote: Does anyone on this list use Cygwin when they are using Windows? I use Win2k at work and was hoping to get that Linux feel

Re: cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread Erik Price
Erik Price wrote: Does anyone on this list use Cygwin when they are using Windows? I use Win2k at work and was hoping to get that Linux feel with this program. Any advice or comments? Judging from offlist responses, it sounds like a lot of people use or have used it, and that it can make

Re: cygwin

2003-01-16 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:27:49 EST Jerry Feldman said: Regarding Cygwin. I am teaching a C course at Northeastern and several of my students have downloaded Cygwin, but are not Unix people. My questions are: 1. Does one create a .profile (or .bashrc) and create a PATH. I don't