Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-05 Thread Fred Kiefer
On 04.01.2014 12:45, Jamie Ramone wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Fred Kiefer fredkie...@gmx.de wrote: Am 04.01.2014 um 00:17 schrieb Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com: Well $hit! I ran on a VM with Ubuntu 13.10...same problem: Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-04 Thread Fred Kiefer
Am 04.01.2014 um 00:17 schrieb Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com: Well $hit! I ran on a VM with Ubuntu 13.10...same problem: Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1.

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-04 Thread Jamie Ramone
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Fred Kiefer fredkie...@gmx.de wrote: Am 04.01.2014 um 00:17 schrieb Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com: Well $hit! I ran on a VM with Ubuntu 13.10...same problem: Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-04 Thread Gregory Casamento
Please make sure you install a recent version of Gorm and GNUstep. I'm not certain which version of base and GUI you're using. GC On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Jamie Ramone wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Fred Kiefer fredkie...@gmx.dejavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'fredkie...@gmx.de');

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-04 Thread Jamie Ramone
For the VM test I used the ones on the webpage (I do believe they're up to date), same ones I used on my machine after running into this problen in the previous version. That would be: - make 2.6.6 - base 1.24.6 - gui 0.24.0 - back 0.24.0 - Gorm 1.2.18 On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gregory

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-03 Thread Jamie Ramone
Well $hit! I ran on a VM with Ubuntu 13.10...same problem: Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. 2014-01-03 20:09:11.042 Gorm[6849] QueryTree window is 25186477 (root 373

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-02 Thread Jamie Ramone
So, I'll have to wait for 14 to come out then. I can live with that I guess. In any case I'll give it a go on a VM with 13.10 (wish me luck).As for GWorkspace I never use it's desktop. It interferes with everything else. And no, it doesn't work on both as I stated earlier. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at

Re: Serious GORM bug

2014-01-01 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Jamie Ramone wrote: OK, got it, I'll try that now (between windows, not sure how to do the between applications yet). Just a heads up: I did eventually, er, erase the folders by selecting them and dragging them to the Recycler's pseudo-appicon and it worked without a hitch. Since Recycler.app is

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-30 Thread Fred Kiefer
I asked for it, I got it and now it doesn't help me :-( Thank you for the stack trace. But now I am completely clueless. Do you have an idea why the message NSWindow.m: No such file or directory. shows up? I would expect that you are running Gorm on the same machine that you did compile GNUstep.

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-30 Thread Jamie Ramone
No idea about the NSWindow.m not found. I am running it on the machine it was compiled for. I did delete the sources afterward, but doesn't the code info get included with -g? If necessary, I can unpack the sources where I did the build last time. Would that help in the bug hunt? Just let me know.

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-30 Thread Germán Arias
El lun, 30-12-2013 a las 15:30 -0200, Jamie Ramone escribió: No idea about the NSWindow.m not found. I am running it on the machine it was compiled for. I did delete the sources afterward, but doesn't the code info get included with -g? If necessary, I can unpack the sources where I did the

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-30 Thread Jamie Ramone
Hmm, interesting. What could be a good workaround? Can it safely be removed or downgraded? Keep in mind that I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Germán Arias germanan...@gmx.es wrote: El lun, 30-12-2013 a las 15:30 -0200, Jamie Ramone escribió: No idea about the NSWindow.m

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-30 Thread Germán Arias
El lun, 30-12-2013 a las 16:48 -0200, Jamie Ramone escribió: Hmm, interesting. What could be a good workaround? Can it safely be removed or downgraded? Keep in mind that I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm not sure, but this could be a problem in the version of libc that has Ubuntu 12.04. Unfortunately

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Gregory Casamento wrote: Part of the problem could be with Dragon and drop itself. Try another application which uses Dragon to see if that fans. On some systems there might be a problem with the drag-and-drop daemon. For the sanity of us all, stop dictating your mails, or scan a medical

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Fred Kiefer
Am 29.12.2013 um 10:09 schrieb Riccardo Mottola r...@gnu.org: Gregory Casamento wrote: Part of the problem could be with Dragon and drop itself. Try another application which uses Dragon to see if that fans. On some systems there might be a problem with the drag-and-drop daemon. For the

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
Lol. Well, If I'm doing to dictate, I should at least proofread On Sunday, December 29, 2013, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Gregory Casamento wrote: Part of the problem could be with Dragon and drop itself. Try another application which uses Dragon to see if that fans. On some systems there might

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread David Chisnall
On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:04, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: Well, If I'm doing to dictate, I should at least proofread ^ Good start... David -- Sent from my Cray X1 ___ Gnustep-dev mailing list

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
Yeah, I know. :( Any ideas with respect to what is wrong with drag and drop? On Sunday, December 29, 2013, David Chisnall wrote: On 29 Dec 2013, at 12:04, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Well, If I'm doing to dictate, I should at least proofread

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
Not sure yet, but I'd like to note that the upgrade borked the alpha blending on all DD images :-/ Still looking... Oh, any idea as to which app would be best suited for this test, is there a useful one in the examples tarball? On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Gregory Casamento

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
GWorkspace may be good. On Sunday, December 29, 2013, Jamie Ramone wrote: Not sure yet, but I'd like to note that the upgrade borked the alpha blending on all DD images :-/ Still looking... Oh, any idea as to which app would be best suited for this test, is there a useful one in the examples

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
I thought so. So far nothing. I've moved files and folders around, as well as color swatches and nothing. My only gripe is no alpha but apart from that, I'm not having any DD troubles. In fact, the only app with this problem is GORM. I'll keep fiddling with GWorkspace and see if it shows up. On

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
Moving files and folders around is not what I'm talking about try dragging something in from outside. GC On Sunday, December 29, 2013, Jamie Ramone wrote: I thought so. So far nothing. I've moved files and folders around, as well as color swatches and nothing. My only gripe is no alpha but

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
Something from the outside? What do you mean, like from another app? But what, could you be more specific? Thanx. In any case here's my most recent test: made two new folders and dragged them around, into the shelf, from there inside of the other one, back home, same thing in revers

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
Between windows or between applications. I believe you’re hitting the same bug Fred may be hitting, I’m working on a potential fix now. Greg On Dec 29, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com wrote: Something from the outside? What do you mean, like from another app? But what,

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
OK, got it, I'll try that now (between windows, not sure how to do the between applications yet). Just a heads up: I did eventually, er, erase the folders by selecting them and dragging them to the Recycler's pseudo-appicon and it worked without a hitch. Since Recycler.app is another app I guess

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
Hmm, I was able to drag a red color swatch from Ink's color panel to the tabbed shelf. Then wrote some text in black and selected one letter. Finally I dragged the swatch from the shelf onto the selected text, which changed from black to red as expected. Still poking around... On Sun, Dec 29,

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Fred Kiefer
On 29.12.2013 21:58, Gregory Casamento wrote: Between windows or between applications. I believe you’re hitting the same bug Fred may be hitting, I’m working on a potential fix now. You might be wrong here. German's bug, that I investigated, was Gorm specific. If you advice Jamie to drag

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
I'm not sure how much more details you need. I stated that dragging a connection to any of the objects in the document window (i.e. the main project window) caused a segfault. I later discovered that dragging from these objects toward any other one, outside that window, worked OK. And it seems to

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Fred Kiefer
Yes! That was what I was asking for. Thank you, Fred On 29.12.2013 22:28, Jamie Ramone wrote: I'm not sure how much more details you need. I stated that dragging a connection to any of the objects in the document window (i.e. the main project window) caused a segfault. I later discovered that

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-29 Thread Jamie Ramone
OK, here it is: (gdb) file /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm Reading symbols from /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm...done. (gdb) r Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. Program received

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Gregory Casamento
No, nothing more needed I'll check it out thanks. On Friday, December 27, 2013, Jamie Ramone wrote: Well, I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04 system, my computer is a 64bit AMD Phemon (6 processors), I recently recompiled GNUstep from scratch because the entire system died (not sure what caused it but the

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
Thanx man! Oh just a plus: I don't use the new language runtime (libobjc 2). Also, I found that connecting FROM an object in the document window TO a control on a window seems to work fine. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: No, nothing more

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Gregory Casamento
Gorm shouldn't require anything in the new runtime. I've tried creating connections between several objects in the document window. I can't seem to reproduce this issue. Could you run in GDB and provide me a backtrace? I will continue to test things here to see if I can reproduce the issue.

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
K, here's what I got: (gdb) file /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm Reading symbols from /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm...done. (gdb) r Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. 2013-12-28

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
Here's the 2nd test: (gdb) file /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm Reading symbols from /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm...done. (gdb) r Starting program: /SystemApps/Gorm.app/Gorm [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. Program

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
What's common in both is self == nil (self=0x0) in NSWindow's -sendEvent method. While that doesn't seem right, nil is a valid receiver as far as the runtime's concerned. So I'n still unsure of the cause of the segfault. Let me know what you find Greg. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jamie

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Fred Kiefer
I was not able to reproduce your problem on my system. Maybe more detailed instructions would be helpful. What I noticed when looking at your stack trace is that a lot of intermediate methods are left out there. Which optimisation level are you using for your compiler when compiling GNUstep gui?

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
Optimization??? I just use configure and the supplied makefile. Anyway, I'm gonna completely wipe out the current GNUstep installation and build it from scratch. I suspect some corruption crept in with that nasty system crash I had. I reinstalled GNUstep on top of the old installation that time.

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
OK, recompiled current GNUstep from scratch. Still no luck. Now gonna try the most recent release. Wish me luck! :) On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com wrote: Optimization??? I just use configure and the supplied makefile. Anyway, I'm gonna completely wipe out

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Ivan Vučica
When wiping GNUstep off your system (before a reinstall, of course!), don't forget /etc/GNUstep.conf -- or something like that. On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com wrote: OK, recompiled current GNUstep from scratch. Still no luck. Now gonna try the most recent

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Gregory Casamento
Part of the problem could be with Dragon and drop itself. Try another application which uses Dragon to see if that fans. On some systems there might be a problem with the drag-and-drop daemon. On Saturday, December 28, 2013, Jamie Ramone wrote: OK, recompiled current GNUstep from scratch. Still

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
I'm already on the recent libs (and Gorm). I put it in /SystemLibrary/GNUstep.conf, Tis easier 2 uninstall this way ;-) In any case, no luck. Recent GNUstep, recent Gorm, old bug :-S I DID, however see failed tests in GUI...and looking at the logs it appears to be just because of the backend not

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-28 Thread Jamie Ramone
Dragons??? Are you doing acid Greg? :P Hmm, maybe there's a problem with drag drop. I'll go ahead and check that. On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: Part of the problem could be with Dragon and drop itself. Try another application which uses

Serious GORM bug

2013-12-27 Thread Jamie Ramone
Hi there steppers! OK, here's the deal: I'v been playing around with GORM making a demo of an extended scroll view (a subclass of NSScrollView with some practical general purpose extensions) and I came across a connection-related bug in GORM. Apparently, (manually) connecting any object to any

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-27 Thread Gregory Casamento
Hey Jamie, Could you give us some information about your environment? Greg On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jamie Ramone sancom...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there steppers! OK, here's the deal: I'v been playing around with GORM making a demo of an extended scroll view (a subclass of NSScrollView with

Re: Serious GORM bug

2013-12-27 Thread Jamie Ramone
Well, I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04 system, my computer is a 64bit AMD Phemon (6 processors), I recently recompiled GNUstep from scratch because the entire system died (not sure what caused it but the UI never came back so I had to reinstall the system). Also, I'm using WindowMaker as unity has pretty