DAILY GROOK #177
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BATTLE SETTLE
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by Francis Rodrigues
paki terrorist,
shoots to score,
oh this is just
a thug of war!
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On August 2, Roland Francis wrote: ''We don't know any of the ground
realities of modern day Goa.We can pretend our conventions make a
difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.But what must be our
greatest taboo is to tell Goans in Goa what is right and what is wrong
and the biggest ta
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the
> political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we
> pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all
> sort of opinions and comments but th
My dear Ignatius
You seem to ask a question non garta,
How would these same Alibaba and 40 thieves stay in power,
and the Owners of Navhind Times, rape more mines,
the answer my friend is blowing in the wind,
Can we stop our own Goans going out of Goa,
I would apperitiate , even if they come ba
--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wish to add my two cents to this debate. How come the same
> individuals that take Eugene to task have not / do not
> practice what they are preaching to Eugene? I hope at
> least in the future, they will practice what they prea
My dear Friends,
Dr. J. Peter Rodrigues, Chairperson of St. Andrew's unit, The Bombay Catholic
sabha, organised a talk on Sunday, 27th, July, 2008, on "finance from govtmt
for christians" - Speaker - Mr. Gordon, V.P. The BCS, Mumbai.
Kindly forward the below information to everyone:-
All my lo
Continuation of "Two flights of fancy", "Game theory" etc posts. Centre for
probe into BIAL lapses.
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug42008/state2008080382608.asp
Now get a load of this nugget regarding real estate earnings of airports
which follows:
On the face of it, the Mumbai and Delhi
To Goanet -
It is now the official policy of the govt to
let ghatis take over Goa -
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=7895&cid=2
r
Ignatius writes:
>I too wonder in amazement like Rajan Parrikar
>that a local newspaper like Navhind Times should sing
>the praises of these bhailes .
>The paper makes out that the Goans could not do without these Kannadigas,
>Oriyas,Sindhis,Dilliwallahs or Gujaratis.
>Could they not have staye
To Goanet -
Miguel Braganza wrote:
>Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate.
Gee, I'm shattered, dude. Imagine not being able to
bask in the shadow of your distinguished, CbC (Certified-by-Cecil)
being. I guess with this devastating blow, I should
cast off my mortal
Dears,
A sale deed for 2,50,000 sq. m. land has been registered at Canacona for
S.N.139 at Tansi for Gold Resort Hotels Pvt. Ltd. Read the Tansi-Canacona
story on NT page5 of 3/8/08. It is not available on its website. Visit
www.savegoa.com to see what this land was supposed to be as per Go
DHIRIEO (Bullfights)
Ladru:
Avois! Ar're Pedru, tum khuim ghelolo?
Pedru: Khuim
ghelolo? Hanv gerrak ghelolom!
Ladru:
Gerrak? Mhunnchem kitem re?
Pedru: Gerrak
mhunnchem zuzak ghelolom.
Ladru: Konnam
lagim zuz manddunk ghelolo tor tum?
Pedru: Ar're, hanv
zuzonk
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.
*** Fresh ˜low to bring more rain into peninsula - Hindu
Business Line
[4 hours ago] In the Maharashtra-Gujarat region, rainfall
occurred at most places over Konkan-Goa and south madhya
Mahara
I only managed to get up to Toronto from Kansas
late Fri nite, to see the tiatro and magnificent Ball.
Does anybody have any info on the Convention's Music
Seminar? There were all sorts of rumours swirling about
something quite extraordinary having taken place there.
The final Presentation
Wendell Rodericks, is one of them. I have utter respect for his
stance, for coming out of the closet and being counted.
I do wish, sincerely, that our London/Kent Peacock would do the same.
We can then be courteously nice towards each other...I hate hypocrisy!
--
DEV BOREM KORUM.
Gabe Menezes.
I too wonder in amazement like Rajan Parrikar
that a local newspaper like Navhind Times should sing
the praises of these bhailes .
The paper makes out that the Goans could not do without these Kannadigas,
Oriyas,Sindhis,Dilliwallahs or Gujaratis.
Could they not have stayed in their home states
Dear Jojo,
For the present all I can say is that "vested" interests now wear long-sleeved
shirts, ties and suits and sit in Board Rooms, too. They are from different
"professions" including the oldest one.
If one does it for love of the game, one is called an "amateur". Town and
Country Pla
Guess the word and win talleo's !!
Replace the letter 'o' with 'a'...& vice versa.
What do u get??
Now replace the author of this word with the same!!
What did u get??
Send me the answer!!
hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
Clue : On the invention of the new word Fodrina on GOANET!!
Dear Fred
I too wouldn't pillory anyone for the quality of their language. But Dr. Barad
is not anyone. He is a doctor. I don't know whether it is in medicine or he
holds a doctorate. But either way he is a highly qualified man. And an author
too. So there should not be any excuse for VERY BA
There.is.a.saying.in.Portuguese:::Na.arca.aberta.ate.o.santo.peca.
Goa-related books that can be read via Google:
http://books.google.com/books?as_q=Goa&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_libcat=0&as_brr=1&lr=&as_vt=Goa&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb=c&as_miny=&as_maxy=&as_isbn=
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FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
784 Nr Conv
Dears,
Rajan Parrikar is NOT the type of person I would like to associate. However,
Oscar Rebelo's language is no less flowery or peppered with expletives ... even
at formal GBA meetings than Rajan's in private emails. I do not know if
that was a part of their common school culture. His r
Video:
Delhi Tour
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ypq4c5Pp2LY
For best quality viewing..
Pl use the option 'View in High Quality' located just below the 'View'
Pics
India Gate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukindia/2721034154/sizes/l/ day
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukindia/27
Martin's Corner has just gone national with a recommendation in the
"Outlook" magazine of July 21, 2008.
Martin's Corner, Betalbatim, Salcete, Goa.
Telephone 2880061
Meal For Two - Rs 900
3 carrots
(4 carrots - very good, 3 carrots - good, 2 carrots - average, 1
carrot - avoidable).
by Anwar Ali
I wish to add my two cents to this debate. How come the same individuals that
take Eugene to task have not / do not practice what they are preaching to
Eugene? I hope at least in the future, they will practice what they preach; or
they can be part of the 'crab-codi'.
I did not attend the meet
Dear Brothers and sisters
We have been celebrating Mary's feast from January to December but these are
mere rituals. Why do you give these feast so much of importance ? I would
celebrate just one feast of Mary in one year and will try to imbe her ways into
my life.
Who was Mary ? She was just a
There is all possibility that the draft Regional Plan 2021 will be out any
moment as the crisis within GBA was fore seen by some of us as part of the
masterplan in order to blunt the opposition just before this plan is out. The
betrayal was expected by many of us goans. The people of Goa have t
To Goanet -
Marshall Mendonza wrote:
>Comment:
>Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the
>campaigners who initiated the insidious campaign
>against Dr Oscar Rebello which has taken a toll on
>one of the best public faces who galvanised the
>people of Goa against corruption? The loss is
Dear all,
Would some of the Goanetters be in a position to put some light on which of the
two options is better to retain Indian citizenship?
Is it by obtaining PIO or by acquiring OCI ?
It has been noticed that PIO is a card issued by the Govt. of India to
Indians who obtain foreign pa
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/GBA_in_a_tizzy_over_convenors__resignation/rssarticleshow/331.cms
GBA in a tizzy over convenor's resignation
3 Aug 2008, 0546 hrs IST,TNN
PANAJI: A meeting of Goa Bachao Abhiyan on Saturday discussed the
resignation of its convenor Dr Oscar Rebell
http://www.thehindu.com/2008/08/03/stories/2008080351550300.htm
GBA to pressure MLAs to revoke controversial amendments
Special Correspondent
PANAJI: The Goa Bachav Abhiyan (GBA), people's movement crusading
against irregularities in and violations of the State land-use plans,
has launched a mo
Saligao Institute at Arrarim observes the 75th year of its founding in
2008. Its celebration evening and prize distribution is scheduled for
August 14, 2008 at 7 pm.
"To celebrate of 75th, we have planned an exciting evening starting
with the prize distribution, followed by a varied cultural progr
WORLD GOA DAY - FLYER
http://worldgoaday2 008.blogspot. com/
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Hi Everyone
You are invited to partake in this year’s World Goa Day celebrations!
At: The Friars, Aylesford , Kent M
We are thankful to all those who participated to our seminar conducted at
Comba Margao, on "Right Move II, Carrier in Sports- National Games 2011" by
Taleigao Chess Academy in association with International Centre Goa, Dona
Paula, by its programm manager Mr. Arajun Haldonkar, Mr. J.B. Sardesai, JCE
Dr Ribeiro Goan School ex-students website
http://dr.ribeiro.goan.school.googlepages.com/home
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FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402
16,000+ photos from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Somehow my earlier message hasn't appeared in Issue 958 even though the
subsequent
correction has. Here is the original:
Reference FN's recent reply to Armando - I too would be interested
to know the year as I could well ask my historian friend(Cynthia Salvadori)
to see if she can help. She has tr
Dear Goanet Members,
Please allow me to respond to two messages (message No 5, dated Saturday, 2,
August 2008 titled Typos and semi-literates! & message No: 6, dated: Sat, 2
Aug 2008 under subject title George Pinto and prostitution) coming from same
person.
Anthony M. Barreto writes - Dear Gabe
This is in reply to MIGuel BRAganza's message No 8, dated Sun, 3 August 2008
under subject tile as in above. In that message MIGuel writes - I do hope
the excess of expenditure over income/collection was underwritten by IITian
S. Kamat and Dr. U.G. Barad who motivated you. One played truant, the ot
John said:-
As I said previously (refer to Gaonet archives again), my parents were
European, I am European. I lived and breathed Goa for nearly 11 years of my
life & have only recently beenable to regain my breath,
In one of my last posts on the subject of my 'parental heritage' I ment
Betcha a Thousand Ruppiah to a Sterling Pound if I came up with something
similar with a Catholic slant it would be rejected by the moderator, what's
your bet?
Anyone comment? Anyone want to bet?
John Monteiro
-
Francis Rodrigues
Thank you Melinda
WELL SAID !!
Occasionally, we hear a voice in the wilderness, and with your 'honeyed plea
& tone, you have empowered more people than some of the rages & rants we are
obliged to digest daily on this forum.
There are many, many posters on this forum who after o
2008/8/3 Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I too was disappointed by the critique referred to by George, and also by the
> infighting that is going on between all the Goan fighters and organizations.
> It is hard to understand why people rely so much on pure gossip,
> misunderstanding and p
'Russian aircraft carrier could cost India USD 2 bn more' New Delhi, Aug 1 :
India could end up paying a staggering USD 2 billion more for a Russian
aircraft it has bought from Russia for USD 1.5 billion, a defence ministry
source said Friday.
http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-5162.html
Hi Joe
Thank you for the picture (& the video of the other side of the Baga Beach),
but I wonder if you can help me with a query I have. I remember we were on a
beach in the late 1950's, when we were near the sea shore, my mother went out
to swim but got entangled in seaweed.
This m
IFRA Annual General Body Meeting
The 27th annual general body meeting of the Indian Football Referees'
Association (IFRA) - Kuwait will be held on Friday, August 8, 2008 at 9:30 a.m.
at the Avanti Palace Restaurant, Salmiya - Kuwait.
Please note the change in venue accordingly.
All memb
Mightier? Deadlier? More lethal? More despicable?
Take your pick.
History will judge us, as Fidel Castro is wont to say :-) FN
2008/8/3 Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/8/3 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Gabe, I think you're under-estimating Goanet's
Rajan, That was most horrendous & absolutely false innuendo. You don't know
Gurunath Kelekar at all. His integrity, devotion/dedication to his mission is
legend. The late Shanker Bandhari, my intimate friend & most valuedmentor once
said to me: 'If we had a few more of Gurunath &Ravindra Kel
2008/8/3 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Gabe, I think you're under-estimating Goanet's ability to set the
> agenda ... in ways both positive and negative! FN
RESPONSE: Thanks for the information, now we can truly say, indeed,
the 'pen is mightier than the sword'
Hi there,
Am looking for a School friend of mine Mr. Orlando Dias, used to live near
Holy Spirit Church in Margao, Goa and was schooling at St. Joseph's Boys
School, Bangalore and passed out in 1973. Need to get in touch with him
urgently.
Thanks.
Agilio Pereira
IT Consultant
Abacu
Hi all,
I am writing this mail to share the sadness in my heart.Please do not tear
it apart ,sentence by sentence ,word by word --"Goanet style"
I am really distressed to read so much of naming ,blaming,and shaming
different groups /individuals that are working for the good of Goa.Agreed
[Goanet] When Baga was 'bridge-less'
thanks FN n Roland.
Baga now has New Bridge
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2618833211/sizes/l/
This is where people used to cross during low tide (?)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2618832915/sizes/l/
This video captured from the other si
George Pinto wrote:
Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's resignation from
the GBA a few months ago? Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?
Comment:
Was Rajan a man ahead of his times or one of the campaigners who initiated the
insidious campaign against Dr Oscar Rebello which
Gabe, I think you're under-estimating Goanet's ability to set the
agenda ... in ways both positive and negative! FN
2008/8/3 Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/8/3 Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Dear Santosh et al,
>> Of late I have refrained from posting on Goanet. It has become a forum t
Dears,
I am combining three "threads" unconnected to one another except for two points;
1. they concern GOA and its people and
2. they are exercises in HUMILITY and appreciation thereof.
The Good News, or the Gospel, tell us:
"Whoever exalts himself will be debased and whoever humbles himsel
2008/8/3 kaleon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Mario,
> The question, above,?is a simple one.
> You?either did not understand it or tried to evade it.
> ?
> I have yet to find a single charitable project that has all the funding it
> requires.
> ?
> Mervyn3.0
> LISTEN GUYS! SEND ME THE MONEY SINCE YOU SE
2008/8/3 Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dear Santosh et al,
> Of late I have refrained from posting on Goanet. It has become a forum to
> ruin people's reputations. The newspapers said that Oscar Rebello resigned on
> account of the hate-campaign started against him on the internet. The
> inter
caje.rediffiland.com
People are complaining here about 'development' and 'dilliwallahs' ;
Looks like this is not a problem just limited to Goa but
to tourist places across the country. Below is a nice article in Outlook
on Kumaon by Ira Pande. Interesting, how they are facing a problem
similar to Goa.
http://www.outl
The Fate of the GBA is representative of any group in Goa! too many people
pulling in different directions not working for the good of all or the land
or whatever political intereference through 'chamchas' is the way it
functions so that anything that is for the good of those who are generally
law
I remember that time.
I was in the Gulf and had come down to my beloved Goa on a long
holiday. We had left in two cars from Benaulim which had packed my
wife, I and a few of my relatives on a trip to Calangute.
The Tourist Hotel was rather new and just off the beach. Tito's Bar
was just gaining p
Dear Miguel,
Thank you for the B/wishes.
YOur post much appreciated.
But remember one thing.
CI is and remain purely a Citizen's Initiative.
Godfrey or you or someone else can take charge of being the convenor of the
TCP amendment case, or the Canacona Murder case or
The Ci
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Selling Our Ancestral Home
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Mario Gov
Wow indeed, This is a classic.
To understand that our moderators are after all humans and not robots.
To have pulled 'one up' on our super vigilant moderators is an achievement in
itself.
And, to have spotted it by Eddie is another.
ED.
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Subject: Re: [Goanet] What's the problem with Celina,
Roland said:-
We can do nothing against the builders or the land grabs or the
political, civic and police mismanagement. All that is too big for us.
We can sit in our drawing rooms, dance at our social get-togethers,
shop for our Lexuses and talk of downsizing from large home to smaller
ones. Mostl
Dear Gilbert
It is easy to question others, it is more difficult to give one's own
answers! Giving answers or making statements requires research and hard
work. Will you try in future to change your style of sending posts? Let us
have some of your *well-substantiated* views, instead of seeking
Reference my post in Issue 957.
For "Goans in Ethiopia" please read "Goans in Eritrea"
Apologies for the slip up!
Mervyn M.
Dear Santosh et al,
Of late I have refrained from posting on Goanet. It has become a forum to ruin
people's reputations. The newspapers said that Oscar Rebello resigned on
account of the hate-campaign started against him on the internet. The internet
has become a powerful yet vicious tool.
sel
I too was disappointed by the critique referred to by George, and also by the
infighting that is going on between all the Goan fighters and organizations. It
is hard to understand why people rely so much on pure gossip, misunderstanding
and personal bias.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, G
To Goanet -
The Navhind Times has been giving us weekly rations
of "contributions" made by Kannadigas, Oriyas,
Keralites, Dilliwallahs, Punjabis, Maithils, Nagas,
Kashmiris, Marathas, Bongs, and so on and so forth.
Be very grateful, Goenkara. Where would you be
without these "contributions"
Dear George,
Oscar Rebelo has surely NOT resigned because Rajan Parrikar asked for his
resignation ... though both of them might have been students of Don Bosco High
School, Panaji.
No one in the GBA forced Oscar to resign. Like a government, he seems to have
collapsed under the weight of
Reference FN's recent reply to Armando - I too would be interested
to know the year as I could well ask my historian friend(Cynthia Salvadori)
to see if she can help. She has travelled extensively in Africa and is
currently in Ethiopia from where she keeps in regular touch with me.
Mervyn(Maciel)
To Goanet -
George Pinto writes:
>Wasn't Rajan Parrikar the first to call for Oscar Rebello's
>resignation from the GBA a few months ago?
Guilty as charged. I aim to please and offend,
not necessarily in that order :-)
>Is Rajan a man ahead of his times?
No. Right now I am precisely 12.5 ho
I am sorrie that this msg went to goanet. It was meant for another group and
copy to moderator
My previous msg n this msg were sent togather hever this msg appeard today.
Regret the inconvinience. :)
Edward Verdes
- Original Message -
From: "Edward Verdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Goa'
Edited copy; a word possibly offensive to delicate ears has been substituted.
AT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: goanet@lists.goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [Goanet] What's the problem with Celina,
Katrina, Fodrina?Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:53:10 +0200
I hold entirely with yoy, Soter.
Rajan's dedicated, selfless, clear exposure of the relentless
abuse of every aspect of values in Goa has indubitably ctalysticized
Goan 'sussegadne'.
Most copious cheers to you, dear Rajan...
Reboni Saha's views merit be review.
Alfred de Tavares,
Stoc
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am sorry, if my reply offended you. It was not intended.
Dear Miguel, no apology needed but graciously accepted. You have respect and
credibility as a gentleman whose heart bleeds for Goa. Keep fighting for Goa,
do not get di
Analyzing hagiographies (biographies and literal writings of holy people) is
great and exquisitely intriguing in working out or interpret the thinking /
machinations at work during that period in time.
Rather than crediting the socio-political clout of the Jesuits or the Spanish
vis-a-vis Po
Dear Eugene
I am disappointed by your "Notes from the Goan Convention" posts. They are
vinegar posts. So much hard work, goodwill, positive accomplishments all from
very fine people in the Toronto Goan community and you have overlooked that,
instead we are presented negatives. I know from perso
Floriano writes:
>Dear Venantius,
>I know my weaknesses. And most of all I know I am not infallible. When I
>make a genueine mistake, I like to apologize for it in the understanding
>that the same mistake will not be repeated.
Floriano
I appreciate your post, and your magnanimity of heart in a
DAILY GROOK #176:
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CONVENTION INTENTION
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by Francis Rodrigues
convention lunch
pork vindaloo,
made the bunch
Toronto da loo!
LATEST 2008 CONVENTION PICS:
http://2008goanconvention.com/
NEW ALBUMS UPDATED DAILY
In our series on playing with the Bangalore analogue to get Mopa right, here
is a telling comment in TOI (Blr) which we may need to pay heed to. In an
article "Will [Infosys mentor] Murthy come back on board of BIAL?" it says
'"Murthy was on the board when the company had a different standing.
Forc
Dear Eddie.
Allow me to answe this one.
Fodri, as we know, is slang in Konkani for vagina as in Fodri-chya (of the /
from the vagina); and would count as Indian. On occasion a term of
endearment among men in bars; the use of which, could result in being
blessed by a direct bottle hit on the head.
Fodrina is just Mr. Barad's way of expressing his contempt to names like Celina
and Katrina. I think it offers a mirror to the scorn and hatred in his heart.
Tony
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:54:10 +0300
From: "Edward Verdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] What's the problem wit
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