Re: [google-appengine] Understanding channels and costs

Hey David, Note that this probably won't work as you're hoping. You can't have a broadcast channel: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/channel/overview.html#Caveats Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:15, David Hardwick wrote: > And how are you? > > I see that we get charged

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you got this working or that it still isn't working? If it isn't working, what errors are you getting in your logs? Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 21:19, linkseed wrote: > I have a script for initialization, and you hook up to the start of

Re: [google-appengine] Store Data from .csv into Database -> Which one?

Hi Jan, Well, there is the datastore: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/ If you don't want to write something to load and parse the csv in to entities yourself, you can use the bulkloader. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html Yo

Re: [google-appengine] Update section of a web page

Hey Thomas, This isn't really an App Engine question, but more of a javascript question. I'd suggest asking at something like stack overflow. Also, google it: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=dependent+select+menus Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:32, Thomas

Re: [google-appengine] Re: is app engine down? I'm seeing a huge number of deadline errors and our app failing to server, hr datastore

If this happens again in the future, you might want to file a production issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:45, Phong Luu wrote: > Is this problem reoccuring again today? Can anyone look into this ASAP as im >

Re: [google-appengine] How to unregister on AppSpot.com? (verification problems with cellphone no)

Fill out the sms issue form: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html#error Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:11, chrisno1 wrote: > I just registered an account on AppSpot.com where I used my own > cellphone number for verification. However, the Gmail account I used > is a special stu

Re: [google-appengine] After clicking "Copy to another app" in "Datastore Admin" Entities Dissapeared from "Datastory Admin".

Hi Sacha, The entities are probably still there. You're just burning through the quota too fast. Cancel the copy job, and/or pause your queues, wait a day, then see if everything is showing up again. Alternatively, go increase your daily budget. Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 14:21, Sach

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Verify Your Account by SMS from Uruguay

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html#error On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:13, Mondel wrote: > Hi could activate my account to google app engine? > I'm from Uruguay and the service does not work here. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: [google-appengine] A single deploy crash all deployed server versions

Hi Victor, Were you deploying to the version that was actively serving traffic or a new version? You might want to look into versions. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:06, Victor Osorio wrote: > I was deploying a application on GAE and the "Verifying availability" > routing was not res

Re: [google-appengine] Google app engine - strategic investment for Google

Hey Hugues, This might be of interest to you: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/11/app-engine-160-out-of-preview-release.html Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:19, hugues2 wrote: > Hi all, > > After experimenting with GAE/GWT, we will start a development effort soon > using th

Re: [google-appengine] Which task queue exceptions raised from Queue.add() make sense to retry?

Hey Andy, In Python, I retry internal errors. I believe I have seen timeouts masquerading as those. I'm not sure about the transactional error. I do not think I have ever seen one. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:00, AndyD wrote: > Thanks, Robert. > > FYI, you're right, a little cod

Re: [google-appengine] Generating 50k chunks for sitemap

Hey Jeff, I haven't tried to solve this problem in practice, so this amounts to thinking out loud; maybe it is helpful, maybe not. ;) So each chunk is limited to 50k urls and 10mb uncompressed. In other words, you've got to constraints to consider. In very simplistic testing, I can compress

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

Hey Markus, I've looked at using the Channel API or third party solutions in several projects. In one I went with the Channel API to test it out a little. I've still not made heavy use of it though. I've looked at the third party solutions a bit, but have not used one in a production app. I

Re: [google-appengine] Unneeded instance started

Hey Francois, Interesting. On apps where I'd set it to auto, I generally see the billed line track with the total line. I also generally see instances linger for a long, long time being largely unused. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:58, Francois Masurel wrote: > Hi Robert, > > I hav

Re: [google-appengine] Entities Dissappeared in Datastore Admin after "Copy to another app"

Hi Sacha, It sounds like you may want to increase your quota in order to finish the copy. Or, throttle the copy so it isn't burning your quota so fast. The other issues are all due to running out of quota. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:08, Sacha Vieux-Roy wrote: > Yes, I am hitting

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding "The App Engine Way"

More used items will remain in cache longer. So stuff that is infrequently used should naturally fall out. If you've got entities that are frequently written to and seldom read, memcaching them will obviously have a lower value. Particularly if they are updated very often. Note that it may stil

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding channels and costs

Two complications: 1) GAE is adding a time charge to the cost, so you'll be charged for a channel + how long you request it for. I forget if the pricing has been published but I suspect the per-channel charge will drop and you'll have more control over how long you request it for. 2) You can

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding "The App Engine Way"

I haven't actually used it other than the one provided by Objectify :D I'm thinking of putting more (mostly rendered pages, recently accessed items, lookups), but afraid memcache will become full and evicting more important cache objects. What kind of misuse that you're talking? If I know I wou

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

I have a script for initialization, and you hook up to the start of backends, was successful to start the backend. backends.yaml backends: - name: backend class: B1 options: dynamic instances: 1 start: warmup.py But, in the hook to the warmup, you could not be started. You need to ma

[google-appengine] Re: how to keep local datastore even after restarting my computer?

When starting the development server set the --datastore_path to a path that is not in a temporary directory. You may also want to set the --history_path option (but I have never had to). http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/devserver.html#Using_the_Datastore On Feb 22, 8:24 pm, Jam

Re: [google-appengine] Any news regarding SSL support for google apps registered domains?

Hi Joshua, Sadly I do not have a date to announce at this point, but rest assured we will announce one as soon as we can. We know this is an important feature for App Engine developers and we are working hard to make this generally available. In the meantime I would encourage you to apply for the

[google-appengine] Mail API deliverability issues

Hi All, Some apps have experienced delivery problems with mail recently. This was manifested as mail being sent from the app, and quota charged, but the mail not arriving at the destination (not even in the spam folder). As you can imagine, any large service that lets applications send bulk email

[google-appengine] Re: Messages not delivered using Mail API

Do you use Google Apps registered domain as sender address? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appeng

[google-appengine] Re: How do I make an app private?

Use "login: admin" within the app.yaml -> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html On Feb 23, 5:54 pm, phunkysai wrote: > I have created a Google App Engine app that serves as a proxy so that > I can access websites at work. The only problem is, other people have > disco

[google-appengine] Update section of a web page

hi Is there a neat way to update a section of a web page when working with Java and GAE? And passing parameters (e.g. To load data from the datastore according to some criteria)? I want to show a second drop down list ( tag) depending on the selection done on the first dropdown ( tag). E.g. Firs

[google-appengine] A single deploy crash all deployed server versions

I was deploying a application on GAE and the "Verifying availability" routing was not responding after 12 minutes I cancel, and all my server versions crashs. This error is showed after canceling operation: com.google.appengine.tools.admin.HttpIoException: Error posting to URL: https://ap

[google-appengine] How do I make an app private?

I have created a Google App Engine app that serves as a proxy so that I can access websites at work. The only problem is, other people have discovered my app and are making it go over quota every day. Is there a way to set the app as private so that only I have access to it? -- You received this

[google-appengine] Messages not delivered using Mail API

Hi, We use Google Appengine to send email to our member (we've billing active). Last week we send 10k@ without problem, but since yesterday we have a problem with the google plateform: - we can send email with python/api, they are counted in the billing, but they are not delivered. IP are not bla

Re: [google-appengine] Re: is app engine down? I'm seeing a huge number of deadline errors and our app failing to server, hr datastore

Is this problem reoccuring again today? Can anyone look into this ASAP as im serving thousands of users globally and it affects our advertisers. app id(yt-carousel-gadget.appspot.com). Here is a Youtube channel where it exposes the error publically. http://www.youtube.com/user/danonecanal thank

[google-appengine] Any news regarding SSL support for google apps registered domains?

Hi, We're working on a web based product for SMB's and want to be able to offer SSL by default to our customers. Can someone tell us if SSL support for google apps registered domains is scheduled around the next 6 months? (we saw it is tested, but no status regarding when it will be available exi

[google-appengine] Re: AppEngine 1.6.2 and GPE

+1, been troubled with this for a month. There is nothing on the web via google search. Downloading the updated site and updating from archive also has 1.6.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the w

[google-appengine] Re: is app engine down? I'm seeing a huge number of deadline errors and our app failing to server, hr datastore

Hi, Has these problems resurfaced? My app is down can anyone help urgently with this? Im getting lots of errors today. My appid is (yt-carousel- gadget.appspot.com) Error: An error occurred for the API request datastore_v3.Get(). On Jan 31, 7:28 pm, Marzia Niccolai wrote: > Hi, > > Both today

[google-appengine] Re: Failed to load from the backing store - EOFException

Hi, You need to create scripts to populate and backup your local dev database, as every time they release a new SDK it tends to break the compatibility of the datastore. If you have a production version of the application, you can use the Remote API to pull data from that app into your local

[google-appengine] Store Data from .csv into Database -> Which one?

Hi, i want to read some data out of .csv files -> so i have rows of data. First i thought i store this in a sql database. Problem here: To use the google cloud sql, you have to request access for that. I guess this takes some time. Is there any alternative way to store this data and query it perf

[google-appengine] Re: is app engine down? I'm seeing a huge number of deadline errors and our app failing to server, hr datastore

Can anyone assist. My appengine instances are all down..from 21 to 1. i still get Error: An error occurred for the API request datastore_v3.Get(). My app(yt-carousel-gadget.appspot.com) serves thousands of global users. Advertisers are asking me when this will be fixed. thanks -- You received

[google-appengine] How to unregister on AppSpot.com? (verification problems with cellphone no)

I just registered an account on AppSpot.com where I used my own cellphone number for verification. However, the Gmail account I used is a special student mail and needs another domain for logging in. It can't be used for deploying the application. Now, when I want to register a new account on Goog

[google-appengine] how to keep local datastore even after restarting my computer?

Hey, I found that local datastore will removed / cleared after restarting my computer, is there anyway to keep the local datastore? i want to use my local app for weeks or months. i'm using Mac. I've searched for answer with google, but looks everyone keep asking how to delete the local dat

[google-appengine] After clicking "Copy to another app" in "Datastore Admin" Entities Dissapeared from "Datastory Admin".

After checking 1 small entity and clicking "Copy to another app" in "Datastory Admin" Entities Dissapeared from "Datastory Admin". I created a Google App Engine website in PYTHON. When I clicked "Copy to another app" in Datastore Admin, all entities dissapeared a couple of days later, from the Da

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Verify Your Account by SMS from Uruguay

Hi could activate my account to google app engine? I'm from Uruguay and the service does not work here. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-

RE: [google-appengine] Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

>I bet Brandon's CDN can handle that within the free quota. Depends on how even the traffic is. if they all show up in the same hour, No. if they are spread out as 2 per second no problem. Brandon Wirtz BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary Description: http://www.linkedin.com/im

[google-appengine] Understanding channels and costs

And how are you? I see that we get charged for $0.01/100 opening on a channel. *Opened Channels* > $0.01/100 Opens So if I have a 'Notification Channel' which I used to send updates on the status of a completed backend process, then every time I need to open a channel on the client-side it woul

Re: [google-appengine] Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

I bet Brandon's CDN can handle that within the free quota. If you take "page view" literally, it's quite doable. However, there has been a huge change since that doc was written. Back then, if you had 1 too many page views, you'd pay $0.01. Today, to handle 1 too many page views, you need to po

Re: [google-appengine] Re: AppEngine 1.6.2 and GPE

Same here. There's no point in waiting... especially when critical fixes are involved. Jeff On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Emanuele Ziglioli < theb...@emanueleziglioli.it> wrote: > I've given up on the plugin, and just manually download the latest SDK > every time, also the SVN source code ha

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Mark Ivey wrote: > > My original question still stands: is 5M pageviews/month still > reasonable inside free quota? > Nowhere near possible if you have any datastore operations at all in your app. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[google-appengine] Google app engine - strategic investment for Google

Hi all, After experimenting with GAE/GWT, we will start a development effort soon using these technologies. Our main worry is about whether or not GAE is a strategic investment for Google and the commitment that Google offers for these products. Is there any view on whether or not Google sees

[google-appengine] Re: AppEngine 1.6.2 and GPE

I've given up on the plugin, and just manually download the latest SDK every time, also the SVN source code has been updated, which is an awesome thing On Feb 24, 1:50 am, Drew Spencer wrote: > +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine"

[google-appengine] Re: [appengine-python] 2012 US PyCon -- GAE Related Sprints

On Feb 22, 9:51 pm, Robert Kluin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:18, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 22:46, Robert Kluin wrote: > >>  Some current items on the project list: > >>    - An ext.db mock for "unit" tests that offers basic functionality > >>      (including que

[google-appengine] Re: Billing - credit, prepay, minimum ammonits and VAT Invoices

I'm not quite sure what you mean with "EU VAT Invoice" exactly but from my understanding you can be billed under consideration of your VAT ID. When you enable billing for your app the first time it is possible to enter your VAT ID. As far as I know you will be charged from Google Ireland instead of

Re: [google-appengine] How to disable Always On

Funny, I've been trying to figure out how to duplicate Always On, not get out of it ;) Always On is no longer around, I think the message "As an Always On customer..." is leftover from before the new billing started and hasn't been cleaned up yet. But I also would like to see recommendations on t

[google-appengine] Re: Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

On Feb 23, 10:25 am, Mark Ivey wrote: > If it is true, how can 5 million pageviews be achieved with only 1 GB > outgoing bandwidth? That's only 200 bytes per view. (and free apps > don't get to take advantage of Google's edge cache [1]). Oops, I completely messed up the *daily* quota with the *

[google-appengine] Re: Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

Edge Cache does not provide free bandwidth, you have to pay the same price for Edge Cached content. The 1GB is a daily quota not a monthly quota. On Feb 23, 7:25 pm, Mark Ivey wrote: > According tohttp://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#quota, > the free quota should allow for "roughly

[google-appengine] datastore stats -- please help

I am using the datastore stats ... but see the following in the docs: at http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/adminconsole.html#datastore_stats "The statistics data is stored in your app's datastore. To make sure there's room for your app's data, Google App Engine will only store statistics if the

[google-appengine] How to disable Always On

I am embarrassed to ask this on SO. Maybe this group will be more forgiving. I do not spend much time in the Application Settings, so feel incredibly frustrated because this undoubtedly is easy. (Why can't Google spend a little money to hire an experienced technical writer to improve their docs for

[google-appengine] Does free quota still allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application"?

According to http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#quota, the free quota should allow for "roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application." Is that still true after the September 2011 pricing changes? If it is true, how can 5 million pageviews be achieved with only 1 G

Re: [google-appengine] Which task queue exceptions raised from Queue.add() make sense to retry?

Thanks, Robert. FYI, you're right, a little code spelunking in QueueAp

[google-appengine] [SNIPPET] Separate each deployment with different version.

Hello all. I would like share with the community this simple script. The aim of this script is to separate each deployment with a different version. When you execute this script it check the actual default version, picks a new valid version name in $APP_VERSIONS then deploy it with the new ver

[google-appengine] Generating 50k chunks for sitemap

The sitemaps protocol, like most things on the internet, seems to be slightly retarded. Ok, the rule for sitemaps is "no more than 50k items". What do you do when you have more? You need to break it down into 50k chunks and reference them from a sitemap index... but how do you get 50k chunks? T

[google-appengine] Re: AppEngine 1.6.2 and GPE

+1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/2C_WjnCjlFcJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubsc

Re: [google-appengine] Billing - credit, prepay, minimum ammonits and VAT Invoices

FWIW, the "silly little charges" problem has been fixed by turning them into larger minimum charges. I guess this is a case of "be careful what you wish for". Jeff On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Janusz Skonieczny < janusz.skoniec...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > It have been a while since b

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding "The App Engine Way"

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Thomas Wiradikusuma wrote: > Is there any documentation mentioning the max size of memcache for an app? > > Nope. Google scales the amount of memcache for your app along with traffic. They don't publish the details of how this works, nor do they even guarantee t

Re: [google-appengine] Understanding "The App Engine Way"

Not necessarily. Just because the datastore prefers big objects doesn't mean your problem domain isn't better off with a bunch of smaller ones. In particular, you should never embed a time series (presumably like EnergyReading) since its growth is unbounded. On the other hand, you might find tha

[google-appengine] Billing - credit, prepay, minimum ammonits and VAT Invoices

Hi all, It have been a while since billing issues where raised and discussed here and I have concerns that there is nothing going on to correct those. There is no item on the road map: http://code.google.com/intl/pl/appengine/docs/roadmap.html There are filed issues: http://code.google.com/p/go

Re: [google-appengine] Understanding "The App Engine Way"

So does this mean I'm going about building my app structure the wrong way? I'm building something that has a structure something like this: Company --> Building --> EnergySupply --> EnergyReading In each case the relationship is a hasMany, so there could be a Company that has say 100 Buildings

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

It's really too bad, that AWS doesn't use the same datastore. Or do they maybe have something similar? :) Markus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/goo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

Hey Robert, what a small world! Maybe we should post a feature request to the channels api people. Do you know if it's possible with any of these other solutions to host their javascript libraries from your server as well? Preferably in a way that you won't have to check every hour whether the

[google-appengine] Failed to load from the backing store - EOFException

Hi, In development mode I got the exception below and now i'm unable to load my database. This is serious as now I cannot load my test database (with lot's of data) and I have my test environment broken. Is the DB corrupt? What can I do to recover the data i have in the database? What should I do

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding "The App Engine Way"

Is there any documentation mentioning the max size of memcache for an app? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/inXxqs5q9kMJ. To post to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5770 this is imp too in traffic splitting and in general multi-threading. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > Watch out though. The Channel API will be broken when you use traffic > splitting! > > See: http://c

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

Watch out though. The Channel API will be broken when you use traffic splitting! See: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6726 I hope they fix it before they launch 1.6.3 -Andrin On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Robert Kluin wrote: > I totally agree this is an excellent f

[google-appengine] Re: AppEngine 1.6.2 and GPE

I'd also like to know about this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/wCe-0L4haw4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengi