[google-appengine] Re: Application instance is still available after service deleted

Hi Nick, Thank you, I will post to public issue tracker. On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:46:57 UTC+3, Vlad Miller wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a worker type application which executes some tasks in background. > The problem is that after I deleted the service from the console, the &

[google-appengine] Application instance is still available after service deleted

Hello, I have a worker type application which executes some tasks in background. The problem is that after I deleted the service from the console, the service itself is still available via URL. But I can't see any instances or any references to that service anywhere else in console. The probl

[google-appengine] Re: bot attack

I faced the same issue. As I found out, the attacker used the URLs, which were provided to him by chrome extension. In my case it was awesomescreenshot extension in Google Chrome, which leaked all the internal pages (in admin account) I was visiting myself. So the bot later just pinged those. W

[google-appengine] Re: major MEMCACHE changes started October 5th

That is nasty news though not illegal. Let's see what gae says in response. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@goo

[google-appengine] Re: billing: credit card card declined... for which account?!

I have the same problem. Google please provide some guidance! Also see thread https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/Y7kejnGaoUs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

[google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform: Payment declined, your Google API Services are in danger of being suspended

I received the following email today (this is a second email). I read earlier in this group that this problem has been fixed. Can google provide instructions if any what to do to fix this? We couldn't process a payment with your Visa ...[redacted] for $24.45 on Aug 17, 2013. Your bank or credi

[google-appengine] Re: Custom domain setup is a fiasco and limiting adoption.

A well chosen title that sums it up pretty well -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

[google-appengine] Help! (GAJ) Cron jobs not started from 23:39 on 6/21 until 01:47 on 6/22. WTF?

#1 and #2 are tough. Bur Prozac can definitely help with anxiety. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups

Re: [google-appengine] Puzzled by promotion of Go for high performance web serving

@Andrew: I do not have any vitriol toward Go or GAE. Think of these posts as tough love :). I am GAE's loyal customer since 2009 and so is Jeff who started this thread. Without sounding pompous we, and small startups and indie developers like us, ARE your best customers. You are clearly entitled

Re: [google-appengine] Puzzled by promotion of Go for high performance web serving

Jeff, nice writeup. I found it very useful. Sometime it takes calling things as they are and bringing out the "inconvenient truths" * I am especially amused by someone defending lack of exceptions as "complex and subtle issue" which just another way of saying, it is lifestyle choice and there i

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Accumulated lots of data - deleting is is too expensive

While it might be true that data deletion is expensive. The reality is Google is losing customers over that! It is obvious that whoever started this thread is not going to fork over $3600 for the privilege. His only way out right now is to cancel his credit card and abandon the account. Since I

[google-appengine] Re: Accumulated lots of data - deleting is is too expensive

@Renzo - Deleting data as it comes is not a real solution as it costs you the same amount as deleting it all at once. Just spreading the financial pain in time. The point is deleting data gets very expensive and it is a "hidden" cost most developers fail to consider. Perhaps GAE should hold an

[google-appengine] Re: TaskQueue Elevated again today

I doubt this is a recent issue and/or related to performance graphs. TaskQueue with very short countdown were always very flaky so say the least. I routinely saw tasks with countdown=0 lagging by a 1 min or so. This is since years ago. Especially tasks which are scheduled from other tasks, not

[google-appengine] Re: Instances keep shutting down

Star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8931 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr..

[google-appengine] Re: Instance issues

Forgot to mention I have a task chain running every 90 sec. Many of the loading requests occur when running those tasks. On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:53:19 PM UTC-8, vlad wrote: > > I am using python 2.7, threadsafe=yes, all pref settings = default > Instances rarely live beyond a fe

[google-appengine] Re: Instance issues

I am using python 2.7, threadsafe=yes, all pref settings = default Instances rarely live beyond a few minutes causing lots of loading requests. I have not yet turned billing on. I wonder if this is specific to FREE apps. I have a different paid app which seems to be ok. -- You received this mes

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine Endpoints release date??

What is Endpoints? Do you have a link? On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 9:19:02 AM UTC-8, OrKazaz wrote: > > Does anybody know if there is a release date for the Endpoints feature?? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this

[google-appengine] Re: memcache vs task queue

Note that trying to run memcache or Datastore access asynchronously is pointless unless you have some other activity to do in the interim. Your request handler will NOT finish until all async calls have completed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore write costs

My understanding is UNINDEXED properties add no write cost at all. See https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/entities#Understanding_Write_Costs On Friday, December 21, 2012 1:29:26 PM UTC-8, Ryan Chazen wrote: > > Hi - I find the following a bit confusing - is it correct?

[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.7.3 not detecting source file changes - ANNOYING!

Has anyone checked if 1.7.4 fixed this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/oEtxemVzCWMJ. To post to this group, send email to

[google-appengine] Re: Update on our GAE Experience

You mentioned you have moved things off of GAE. Where are you finding greener pastures? AWS? On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:53:09 AM UTC-8, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > I wanted to take a minute to update you on where we are with our GAE > Experience since people often tell me I live in my own lit

[google-appengine] Re: Taskqueue execution latency up by 1000x

stevep wrote: >> >> This issue has been raised before (I believe this is what you are >> seeing). Many moons ago vlad was its champion in these groups. His >> conclusion (link below): "I have been screaming about this for a looong >> time. The offcial positio

Re: [google-appengine] Re: clear *production* datastore

Beware that deleting data is expensive. Essentually you should factor data deletion into your cost calculations. Think twice of what data you want to store, especially if you are planning to delete it eventually. From my own experience: I have an app with 5-6Gb of data accumulated. Storing it co

Re: [google-appengine] Channel API not working in production

+1 Channels is probably the most overhyped but underwhelming feature on GAE. It was launched with lots of hype and high expectations. Still after 2 years to is mostly unusable. GAE team is better off killing Channels as a feature to free up resources and focus on delivering websockets. On Su

[google-appengine] Re: Backend performance, compared

2012 at 9:24 AM, vlad > > wrote: > > Jeff, what storage subsystem did you use on your dedicated host? If you > kept > > all data in RAM then it is just a sleuth of hand. Overall I am not > surprised > > about lame performance of backends and pull queues. I am a bi

[google-appengine] Re: Backend performance, compared

Jeff, what storage subsystem did you use on your dedicated host? If you kept all data in RAM then it is just a sleuth of hand. Overall I am not surprised about lame performance of backends and pull queues. I am a bit surprised on the cost of doing it in Datastore. Good work! -- You received th

[google-appengine] Re: Log Filtering Broken

It is really bad. Anyone looks at logs? On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:46:34 PM UTC-7, vlad wrote: > > Has anyone noticed that Filtering in AdminConsole/Logs has been broken for > a while? Basically after you enter a filter expression the log does NOT > re-paginate results. Thus forcing

[google-appengine] Channel API and compression

In here https://developers.google.com/appengine/kb/general#compression it says that compression is used by default if the browser supports it and requires no modification to the application. My question is, does that apply to Channel API messages too? I have an application that needs to send l

[google-appengine] Log Filtering Broken

Has anyone noticed that Filtering in AdminConsole/Logs has been broken for a while? Basically after you enter a filter expression the log does NOT re-paginate results. Thus forcing you to page through bunch of empty pages. Star this issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?

Re: [google-appengine] Task Queue API: Pricing Risk?

Why did you single out TaskQueue? There are other secondary services which are kind of free on GAE currently once you take the primary costs out. For example memcache comes to mind. Can they jack up the price? Of course they can. Probably with little notice and/or justification. Truth is market

Re: [google-appengine] Task Queue API: Pricing Risk?

I have been using TaskQueue for a long time and this view makes no sense to me. You are paying the same price for your Instances and DS read/write when executing a task. To be fair there is a small leeway which GAE gives you on not charging for storing Task parameters. So you have to weight this

[google-appengine] Re: Taskqueue stops running tasks several times a day

Mind, did you file a production issue? Not that it assures a resolution but without details it is easy for GAE team to dismiss posts like this. I have been there... On May 30, 1:18 pm, Mind wrote: > Robert, > > Still no response on this from anyone else. > > Just this week: >  - Monday : no outa

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare

I liked the part about point of presence in Turkmenistan and Ethiopia. LMAO On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:50:04 AM UTC-7, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > > Honestly, it feels like your crying customers really just needed someone > > competent to click the right buttons at CloudFlare. It really isn't >

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin: Server Errer

I get the same error often when trying to search the logs On Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:37:02 AM UTC-7, Varuna Jayasiri wrote: > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete > your request. > > If the problem persists, please > report

[google-appengine] Re: Flushing async requests on development server for unit testing

Does Nick's comment mean that devserver discards async puts if code does not wait for result? This is what I am observing. If so I question usefulness of async altogether. If frontend instance needs to wait for completion anyways then what is all the fuss about? - A few odd cases where you may

[google-appengine] Re: Task queues sometimes stop for hours, then restart

I have always seen individual tasks to be delayed by many minutes on rare occasions. If the whole queue is dead for 30 minutes is something different. File a ticket and provide logs. On Monday, April 16, 2012 4:46:54 PM UTC-7, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > > I am having a problem where task queues st

[google-appengine] Re: Master/Slave Datastore, thanks for all your hard work

Ray, with graphs like these maybe it is time to check into SLA if you are a paying customer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/lbgME

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Seeing huge delays on task queue execution - 13sec+ per task

Nick, can we count on fixing TaskQueue scheduling? http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To un

[google-appengine] Re: Seeing huge delays on task queue execution - 13sec+ per task

rote: > > Gopal: Sadly your conclusion is entirely incorrect. > > As Vlad noted, task queue execution can be highly unpredictable, and > has been for ages. Unfortunately this has been, and perhaps always > will be, a customer issue that GAE engineers/PMs never address. The > i

[google-appengine] Re: Seeing huge delays on task queue execution - 13sec+ per task

I have been screaming about this for a looong time. The offcial position of GAE team is - we don't guarantee on time execution. Even though this issue is not about on time execution but rather about bugs/inefficiency of their scheduler. They just closed my ticket about that. Feel free to star h

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Switched to HRD - So far not impressed

I did not get an impression that HRD addressed the root cause of bad neighbor problem in any way. That is not to say it is bad because it improved data availability. It is the price hike that was key to reducing bad neighbors. Especially, the clamp down on free quota. That was clearly targeted

[google-appengine] Re: Switched to HRD - So far not impressed

Daniel keep in mind that you data is still co-hosted with dozens or hundreds on other apps on the same physical node. That is what makes performance volatile not M/S vs HRD. HRD did solve the problem for writes somewhat but not for reads. Fundamentally if an app which runs on the same node is r

[google-appengine] Re: Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

I wanted to delete ~ 350K entities created before pricing change. It took about 1-2 weeks under free quota. But it did complete. You mat want to wait or if you really need it enable billing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group.

[google-appengine] Re: Warning: This application is hidden by an alias.

My admin console displays the same error for one of my apps. It is a HR app and I never deployed any code yet! Can someone post a link to production ticket pls? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on th

[google-appengine] Re: Queue and Task timing (my head hurts)

It probably has little to do with your backend and more to do with how TQ interacts with Scheduler. Star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4901 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view thi

[google-appengine] Re: Why Yes, JeffProbst.com just Handled the Season Finale of Survivor on 1.5 instances

This table tells the story of Survivor irreversibly sagging ratings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_%28U.S._TV_series%29#U.S._television_ratings Btw, I used to like the show myself. But it is same old over and over again. Brandon let Probst know the following and I will crawl back into my

[google-appengine] Re: Why Yes, JeffProbst.com just Handled the Season Finale of Survivor on 1.5 instances

Another possible option is nobody cares about JeffProbst/Survivor after being 10+ years on tv? Has nothing to do with edge cache :) which is great...I am just saying... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussi

[google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

First thing to consider is how to deliver notifications and/or state updates to clients. Options: - Short polling. Reasonable option. I am using it myself. It certainly has its cost. - Long polling. Too expensive under new pricing regime. - Channels API. Ill suited to this in my view. - Ideally

[google-appengine] Re: Cached Requests

Can we get a confirmation from GAE team on this information? I know they do not want to touch caching issue...But many developers are interested and it would be the worst outcome if we go on second hand information which might be bogus through no fault of Brandon's. -- You received this messag

Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Acceptable Use: Porn?

This might be an inflection point for appengine and for Google as whole. GOOG at $2000 anyone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/ies

Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Acceptable Use: Porn?

Wow Google is getting off the white horse finally. Are there similar changes coming to Adwords? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/-n

[google-appengine] Re: Dirty issues with GAE left unanswered

You have to get out of the frame of mind that assumes - "GAE team released feature X. Therefore X is well tested, properly integrated with the rest GAE features and fills a gap in the overall platform roadmap." You cannot make those assumptions. I am sorry, I know it sounds negative, but that is

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

link does not work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/JHLT-C_FgEwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups

[google-appengine] memcache quota limits

I would like to get a confirmation. It appears that under new billing memcache API limits are lifted for all apps. In effect memcache use is unlimited. Is that correct? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussi

[google-appengine] Re: Max Limit of tasks a single task can start?

There is a limit of 100 tasks max per single BulkAdd call. I am not aware of any limitations (other than quota) if you spread tasks creations across multiple BulkAdd calls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this disc

[google-appengine] Re: New Billing: Absolutely make sure you set Max Idle Instances to a fixed value

Thanks! That is a good information. Still why does it takes an IQ of > 200 to understand GAE new billing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appe

[google-appengine] Re: To GAE team, could you open source your instance scheduler?

+1 Or stop claiming GAE is an open source project. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/4YS8NqF7hkAJ. To post to this group, send ema

Re: [google-appengine] Re: a transaction committed _and_ errored?

at retries them when you shouldn't (ie, unknown errors). > > Retrying transactions on ConcurrentModificationException (or any other > known rollback scenario) is appropriate. Retrying other exceptions is > risky business. > > Jeff > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, vlad

[google-appengine] Re: a transaction committed _and_ errored?

" that a transaction can complete successfully and the API still returns an error." - yes, it is a bitch. I suffered form this for a long time. Finally I understood that all tasks and especially transactional tasks MUST be completely idempotant. GAE docs do not stress that enough but that is

[google-appengine] Re: Apps For Domains is a MAJOR failing of AppEngine

The right question to ask Greg is why did you tie GAE into GApps at all? My perception is that vast majority of GAE developers do not need and will never use GApps. Domain management is minor feature which you could have put on a Admin Console page. I always thought that coupling GAE to GApps wa

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine is finished, here's why

GAE was fueling its growth by giving a lot of resources for free. Free ride has ended. Now they will have to compete on merits of the platform. Unless they seriously turn to focus on customers I am worried about GAE. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[google-appengine] Re: The scheduler needs a fix and quick.

Perfect way to shoot yourself in the foot. Be careful what you ask for. Googlers like feature requests like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/go

Re: [google-appengine] TransactionFailedError: Is the transaction committed or not?

Joushua, I was thinking of putting child entities approach as well. The question is does writing a new child entity blocks the whole entity group? If answer is yes. Then you get no benefit from that other than keeping meticulous track of what is happening. I would consider that approach if it l

[google-appengine] Re: How to select version of Django when using 'import template'

+1 - those warnings are annoying -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Cig6rqwCT54J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengin

Re: [google-appengine] Timeout issues

Unless I am missing something URLfetch is used for accessing *other* services from GAE. You might want to look why those other services are slow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit htt

[google-appengine] Re: How to do a 'count' in App Engine

Are you using Python or Java? If Python you can write your result to list and use len(my_result). But how to put result to list please read manual -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-a

[google-appengine] Re: TaskQueue Service - How to prevent slow latency

I will assume you really care about 'Execution Latency' not 'Add One' latency. There is no solution currently. TaskQueue timing is unpredictable. You can help by starring this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4901 -- You received this message because you are subs

Re: [google-appengine] Can't login to admin panel

Yes, I deleted this app after my last post. Because I know what I was doing wrong. I tried to access to admin panel. But I created app from v...@mazuru.com and this account is using domain mazuru.com when I went to https://appengine.google.com/a/mazuru.com I have access. I didn't know that i

Re: [google-appengine] Can't login to admin panel

People, please help me! Can anybody say me what I'm doing wrong? I want to start app on GAE, but I can't -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appen

Re: [google-appengine] Migrating to HRD from Master/Slave

Robert, why did you need to develop your own data migration tools? What is wrong with appcfg.py [upload_data/download_data] ? Admittedly I ran bulkloader only on small datasets but it was pretty quick and straight forward. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[google-appengine] Re: Internal Server Error

U think threr is error in your application. That is not Gapp engine error. May be your app doesn't give headers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/goog

[google-appengine] Can't login to admin panel

Hello! I read here http://code.google.com/intl/ru/appengine/docs/adminconsole/ "Access the Console by visiting the following link in your web browser:https://appengine.google.com/ " But when I go here I can only add new app. There is not another button. Why? And

[google-appengine] Re: Question about Task's Fork Bomb

Note that task naming only works for non-transactional tasks. For transactional tasks you have to come up with some kind of Datastore based "run-once" primitive. There is not a standard workaround for transactional task insertion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing changes

Many hosting providers advertise unlimited bandwidth. I heard that once/if you really start taking advantage of that they suspend your account. Essentially they count on vast majority of their accounts never needing much bandwidth but the Unlimited offer looks so enticing. -- You received this

[google-appengine] Re: Task Queue not processing tasks at defined rate

Known problem. Has been asked many times here. There is a mismatch between what TaskQueue API makes you believe it can do and what it actually designed to do. TaskQueue cannot guarantee execution timing. Your problem is actually pretty easy to reproduce when you do a task chain with countdown=0

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Sharing a Task queue between two different applications

@robert - I was itching to advise the same (one app hitting another app's urls). After a little soul searching I abstained :) in the interest of improving coding practices. lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to t

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Advantages of GAE

Can you elaborate on "marking up" the service, pls? Did you mean GAE is planning to raise prices? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from t

[google-appengine] Re: Sharing a Task queue between two different applications

Sharing a TaskQueue or any other resources between apps is not possible by design. Just have your Producer and Consumer as different urls within a single app. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send ema

Re: [google-appengine] ConcurrentModificationException

Robert - That is one excellent troubleshooting job. I wasn't aware that any db.get() implicitly sets entity group on a transaction. Thanks! On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Robert Kluin wrote: > Hi Matija, > I put together a simple python handler that can demonstrate your > problem. It also sh

[google-appengine] Re: Massive EC2 outage

I wish appengine outages would make national news. When that happens GAE is a success story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

Re: [google-appengine] ConcurrentModificationException

@Matija If you do no DS operations then I do not see any reason for performing transactional task insertion. What am I missing? On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Matija wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Wrapper is pretty simple and at the end there is core gae task-queue api. I > have had plan to create

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 20 seconds problem

@stevep Great. We just need to enough stars so the issue bubbles up. I am trying to convince everyone I know including my grandma and my dog to star that issue :) On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, stevep wrote: > Hi Vlad, > > Wanted to let you know I starred this issue. > > Yo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 20 seconds problem

In python world there isn't a ConcurrentException so I am not familiar. What is it? On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Matija wrote: > Hi Vlad, thank you for your info. I have suspected something like this. > > To be honest, for me bigger problem is task within transaction perform

[google-appengine] Re: 20 seconds problem

GAE folks actually answered this question some months back. What they said is backoff specified in queue.yaml only a cue for the scheduler. Scheduler does not come back to check the queue to see if retries are needed UNLESS it needs to do that anyway. If there are other tasks pending to be fired

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Re: Startup Weekend and Google App Engine

@Brandon Your post is the closest to how real VCs think...I guess you aren't an engineer after all :) What are you doing trolling this forum? lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to goo

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Startup Weekend and Google App Engine

@jeff Sorry, I do not understand that. If viability of your product depends on relatively minor cost and efficiency advantages of GAE vs say AWS then you will need a lot of luck. As far as I can see you, me and all folks on this forum are early, very early adopters willing to accept a big risk

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Startup Weekend and Google App Engine

Interesting discussion. All the folks here are engineers. It is easy to challenge status quo and throw out smart questions. Should you find yourself responsible for investing millions of other people's money your perspective changes drastically. We cannot relate to that mindset period. In that

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Re: Scheduled Downtime Woes

Agree with Robert CPU 3x cost is definitely what gets most of us in the end. Although 0.45c/GB on storage side is expensive too. Also remember we are in an "introductory pricing" period according to initial HR announcement. Permanent pricing will be announced in summer 2011. -- You received

[google-appengine] Re: Searching through logs - how far back does it go

I believe it to 1000 entries at each trace level (GAE team can give you definitive number). Meaning you get 1000 error log entries, 1000 INFO level logs etc. So how long is a wrong question. It is how much you are logging is what determines how far back in time you can go -- You received this

Re: [google-appengine] blogging drop-in package

bloog seems to be abandoned. No updates since 2008 there Will check out blogart Thank everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from th

[google-appengine] blogging drop-in package

Does anyone know a blogging package (preferrably python) for hosting a blog on GAE? Something ready made which can be just deployed without any coding. Preferably something where you can apply standard blog themes such as WordPress themes. Thanks -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [google-appengine] Re: task chaining why set taskname?

@Matija: Nothing is wrong with your approach. However for reties to be "safe" your tasks must be idempotant. If your task naively schedules another task then every time it is retried it is going to create new tasks. For example 3 retries = 3 new tasks. That is called "fork bomb" meaning that t

[google-appengine] Re: task chaining why set taskname?

Explicit task naming is a technique to prevent "fork bomb" which is unwanted creation of duplicate tasks. You do not have to name your tasks. However If you have a long running task chain you should think of how you are going to prevent fork bomb. The problem arises when something inside your ta

[google-appengine] Re: Where can I find commercial successfully websites created using GAE?

Just launched recently (not a commercial success yet) a free multi player poker site http://www.zodiacholdem.com. Built completely on appengine using python SDK. I am pretty happy with the platform. Aside from stability the only gripe I have: It is pretty hard to build server driven workflows du

[google-appengine] Re: Taskqueued emails getting sent twice

Could you post code which runs in the task and logging output ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-ap

[google-appengine] Re: HR Vs. Master-Slave Comparison. Is it worth extra cost?

"Mission Critical" is just "PR packaging" around a simple fact that Master/Slave has serious performance issues and team is giving up on it. That was my read on the situation and now Ikal is confirming it. Ikal, thank you - it takes balls to admit a failure. This is a dev forum so no need to su

Re: [google-appengine] task repeats itself

Naming tasks helps against double insertion only. After task is inserted in a Queue it still can execute multiple times. My guess it happens when Task backend crashes. I have seen it a few times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" g

[google-appengine] Re: What's the point of memcache incr & decr?

These are one of the most useful primitives. I use incr() for keeping sequence numbers in a multiplayer game. Works pretty well. As everything in memcache you have to deal with occasional "evaporation" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Eng

Re: RE: [google-appengine] Where can I find commercial successfully websites created using GAE?

:) Regards Vlad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

[google-appengine] Re: Massive datastore issues

Like many similar reports - Question is where do we go from here? My guess is there is not enough actionable information in this thread for GAE folks to troubleshoot. Any bright ideas on how GAE issues like this can be "captured" in a broad sense so sufficient info can be gathered at least to f

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