[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-08 Thread Daniel
+1 On Nov 8, 11:37 am, pdknsk wrote: > Google announced this in May. > > "We have added a few restrictions to the Mail API to improve the > reliability and reputation of the service for all applications. First, > emails must be sent from email accounts managed by Google (either > Gmail, or a dom

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-09 Thread pdknsk
Google should have a two tiered approach. If you're on a free app, this is as good as it gets. You won't get far with 100 mails per day anyway. For paying customers though (especially with domains registered through Google Apps), Google should really improve the service. I'm willing to pay extra to

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-10 Thread pdknsk
I'd really appreciate a response from a Googler, as to what the plan is. I know Google doesn't give ETAs for new features, but just a general response will do, like so. We will improve email delivery reliability soon. We will improve email delivery reliability at some point, but not soon. We have

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-10 Thread JH
I've had a lot of success with Amazon SES. I switched when I noticed a lot of GAE email being flagged as spam and google employees on this very group said they really do intend to become a mass email platform. I have an extremely high deliverability rate with SES. On Nov 10, 1:45 pm, voscausa w

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-11 Thread pdknsk
I'm disappointed no Googler responded. I'll have to interpret this as suggested by Jeff then. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-11 Thread jon
> Assume #3.  Use a different email provider.  There are countless to choose > from. Jeff can you recommend one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To un

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread pdknsk
If Google announced to drop further support for the mail API, that would be fine, because developers can make an informed decision then. I'm mostly interested in DKIM, which has the potential to really improve reliability and seems (from my basic understanding) almost trivial to implement. Why? It

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread Thomas Wiradikusuma
+1 with me. This sort of thing gives GAE a bad name. Better implement it good or not at all. But of course people would wonder, "aint email one of Google's strength? (Gmail)" On Nov 13, 1:50 am, Adrian Scott wrote: > > As far as email goes - personally, I'd rather Appengine shut down the > > em

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread jon
messagebus.com is in private beta now. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I hear you Jeff about GAE ditching the email service but startups have enough 3rd party services to deal with as it is (analytics, mobile push, web channel). Having fewer providers to work with is always better. On Nov

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-13 Thread Ernesto Oltra
Sendgrid.com ; built in top of Amazon SES, but it gives you a nice API through simple web requests, and it helps with statistics, bounces, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-14 Thread pdknsk
As we've discussed on the bug report, DKIM could literally be a one line bug fix. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send e

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-27 Thread voscausa
I have SES up and running making use of this python 2.6 SES API. https://github.com/pankratiev/python-amazon-ses-api As you said, this is working fine. And I'am now able to handle bounced e-mail messages with Return-Path. To use this API for GAE Python 2.5 I had to make some changes by overridi

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-01 Thread Vivek Puri
FWIW, we are moving over all the critical emails to sendgrid.com. Current blackbox nature of email delivery(no reporting) plus the missed emails to users is impacting our end users. Will switch back once things change for better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-01 Thread voscausa
Why Sendgrid and not AWS SES. I moved to AWS SES and it is looking veyy good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/uboeYgkS_1UJ. To pos

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-01 Thread Vivek Puri
'Cause we like startups! On Dec 1, 8:19 pm, voscausa wrote: > Why Sendgrid and not AWS SES. I moved to AWS SES and it is looking veyy > good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appe

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-13 Thread pdknsk
I had still hoped Google is quiet on this because they wanted to surprise us and sneak this into 1.6.1 but no such luck. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com.

[google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2012-01-31 Thread pdknsk
I've noticed this in the 1.6.2 release notes. While not DKIM, it might help. - Mail Quota for App Engine apps that have signed up for billing will only be increased after the first payment for the app is processed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-09 Thread Mos
+1; would be great to see something in the upcoming 1.6.1 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Daniel wrote: > +1 > > On Nov 8, 11:37 am, pdknsk wrote: > > Google announced this in May. > > > > "We have added a few restrictions to the Mail API to improve the > > reliability and reputation of the s

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel Florey
Yes, please! http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3161 and http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1800 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-10 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Assume #3. Use a different email provider. There are countless to choose from. Jeff On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, pdknsk wrote: > I'd really appreciate a response from a Googler, as to what the plan > is. I know Google doesn't give ETAs for new features, but just a > general response will d

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-10 Thread voscausa
Can you recommend one? What about : http://mailchimp.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/q9X9UQyODXgJ. To post to this group, sen

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-10 Thread James Broberg
SES, Dynect email, many others to choose from. On 11 November 2011 07:36, JH wrote: > I've had a lot of success with Amazon SES.  I switched when I noticed > a lot of GAE email being flagged as spam and google employees on this > very group said they really do intend to become a mass email platfo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:07 PM, jon wrote: >> Assume #3.  Use a different email provider.  There are countless to choose >> from. > > Jeff can you recommend one? We're about to integrate with messagebus.com but I don't know enough about their service yet to give the big thumbs up. They're run

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread Adrian Scott
> As far as email goes - personally, I'd rather Appengine shut down the > email API and put those developers to work on something else. Email > I agree, completely... well almost completely... Keep the current basic email to help newbies play and test, but minimize devoting any further significa

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-11-12 Thread Martin Waller
The email needs to be sorted. No email sent to a hotmail account from the app engine seem to arrive! Sent from my iPhone On 12 Nov 2011, at 19:36, pdknsk wrote: > If Google announced to drop further support for the mail API, that > would be fine, because developers can make an informed decisio

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-02 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
We are sending out about 1.8 million emails per month. SES or sendgrid would be way to expensive. (~$1000). We do it from a single server (2ghz, 4gb) hosted somewhere outside of google. It costs us about $60 per month and we have a great delivery rate (spif, dkim, dedicated ip and also very importa

RE: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery?

2011-12-02 Thread Brandon Wirtz
riday, December 02, 2011 12:35 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Cc: Uwe Maurer Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: What happened to the promised reliability improvement for email delivery? We are sending out about 1.8 million emails per month. SES or sendgrid would be way to expensive. (~$1000)