Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Katie, Thanks for asking the question. I’ve been using GCP for about 6 months now. I found the tutorial material and reference documentation to range from pretty good to good enough - there are a few rough points, but nothing that really bothered me. So I didn’t get stuck much in the ea

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Hi Karl, You've taken some extra time and extra care to put this feedback together -- thank you! It's incredibly helpful; this is exactly what we need in order to better serve our users and the cloud computing community. I've already taken your feedback to the appropriate team members to start

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

I’m with Karl that stack overflow is a terrible approach to customer support. Here’s a clue: Look around google and see how other groups provide direct support to users. Any of them using SO? Nope. If you are going to choose one to copy, choose Chromium. By far the best user support experiences

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Yes, +1 for Karl's feedback! Please treat this like a professional product, and don't treat us like beta testers. We want to rely on GCP but it still feels like a collection of services hacked together. We want better documentation, examples and more mainstream tools, and a more polished int

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Katie, I feel compelled to point out that how this discussion going is a good example of some of the things that I - and it seems others - are frustrated about. You’ve asked for and received concrete feedback. Yet we’ve received no answers or discussion back from Google engineers. At least a

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Karl -- thanks for your feedback! Rest assured we are absolutely listening. Responses to this thread have been forwarded to many different teams within cloud and have caused lots of healthy discussion. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. I will compile as many of the responses as I can and ge

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Hi, I'm another one of the Support team members working on our community efforts. A lot of Karl's random thoughts and complaints ring true for me. Right this minute, we're trying to sharpen the blunt instrument

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Hi Katie, I think Karl's post hit a home run and I'm happy to see the positive response to his post. Let me just tack on a few items: *Managed VMs:* The development toolchain for Managed VMs can be a bit finicky. To be quite honest I have no idea how I got Managed VMs working on my laptop. Strea

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Vinny P wrote: > Hi Katie, > > I think Karl's post hit a home run and I'm happy to see the positive > response to his post. Let me just tack on a few items: > > > *Managed VMs:* The development toolchain for Managed VMs can be a bit > finicky. To be quite honest

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

What a flurry of activity. :) Great to see. I have been using GCP( App Engine + BigQuery) in total for over 5 years, so not new, but I have seen plenty of new users make mistakes so let me chime in a bit: On App Engine (and GCP) there are a lot of ways to approach a problem, with the consequen

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:21 AM, troberti wrote: > What a flurry of activity. :) Great to see. > > I have been using GCP( App Engine + BigQuery) in total for over 5 years, > so not new, but I have seen plenty of new users make mistakes so let me > chime in a bit: > > On App Engine (and GCP) there

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Chris - with the improvements you're suggesting to Managed VMs (20 sec deploys, <1 sec instance startup time) - will it be recommended to use Managed VMs to serve frontend traffic? Right now they seem to be more targetted to backend processing because of the slow scaling. If this is true, and y

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

yes, the goal is to get App Engine Managed VMs (v2) to a state where they are ideal for frontend serving. couple of questions for you: (1) is traffic splitting and deploy-to-a-default-module not working for you? (2) re: APIs, which ones would you like to see enabled? you mentioned logging (and

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

@chris, thanks for asking, 1) Sorry I might have had some confusion here, I thought traffic splitting/traffic migration didn't work for managed VM's but it in fact it doesn't work for any non-default module. We haven't yet tried to put our default module on managed vms because of stability conc

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

My company have been on appengine over 4-5 years now. We use namespaces a lot, for organising the users data. Better namespaces support in all tools and utilities After the backup, able to selectively restore the namespace data, to another appid Easy Export of namespace data to Google spreadsheet

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

excellent feedback. some comments inline below. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Aleem Mawani wrote: > @chris, thanks for asking, > > 1) Sorry I might have had some confusion here, I thought traffic > splitting/traffic migration didn't work for managed VM's but it in fact it > doesn't work for

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:03 PM 'Chris Ramsdale' via Google App Engine < google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote: > excellent feedback. some comments inline below. > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Aleem Mawani wrote: > >> @chris, thanks for asking, >> >> 1) Sorry I might have had some conf

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

> > we need to process logs before sending to bigquery Aleem, can you tell me more about what processing you do on your logs before sending them to BigQuery? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

During the course of an appengine request, we record a bunch of stats in the logs, such as number/type of datastore operations, profiling info, URLfetch stats, etc. Before the logs can go into BigQuery, we want to extract that info from the logs and place them in particular columns in our BigQuery

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

There are many great suggestions that are already made on this thread, but I would like to concentrate on a single and extremely important aspect: *Support* There are many edge issues of App Engine, or any product in general, yet with App Engine, these issues are almost never acknowledged and s

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Appengine new Instance spinning for user facing requests. I think there is no recommended process or solution for this. This issue is the most important for production apps.This is discussed many times. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net www.VeersoftSolutions.com On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:30 PM,

Re: [google-appengine] Google Cloud Platform wants to hear from you

Can I +100 this? On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:44:58 AM UTC-4, Karl MacMillan wrote: > > Katie, > > I feel compelled to point out that how this discussion going is a good > example of some of the things that I - and it seems others - are frustrated > about. You’ve asked for and received concre