Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-11 Thread Slava Pankov
@Ivan Markov For some reason I cannot edit my previous message :-( Just want to clarify that I'm extremely grateful for your SDBG tool, it's beautiful software, and it's really sad to hear that you have some doubts about it. On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:35:47 PM UTC-7, Slava Pankov wrote: > >

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-11 Thread Slava Pankov
@Ivan Markov Please invest some time to SDBG, it's great tool, very convenient. Despite of Chrome dev.tools, I still prefer SDBG as more natural for java developer. On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 6:02:43 AM UTC-7, Ivan Markov wrote: > > Don't you think there could've been 2x or even 3x as much

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-11 Thread 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors
J2CL is yet-to-be open-sourced Google product, I'll post a separate update on the state but that's why it wasn't developed openly. GWT, which is community owned; there is nothing done in secrecy and people in the community actively working on GWT 3. On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:58 AM Norbert Sándor

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-09 Thread Ming-Yee Iu
Wow! It's great to see all that progress being made on GWT 3. That's a lot more backwards compatibility than I was expecting. Still, it would be nice to have J2CL released separately as soon as it is ready to do so because 1. Based on past experience, it will take 1-2 years or more before

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-01 Thread 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors
Please send your member requests with some background information on why you need early access. On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:08 PM Julien Dramaix wrote: > I changed the permission settings. You should now be able to apply for > membership at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/j2cl-external > >

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-01 Thread Julien Dramaix
I changed the permission settings. You should now be able to apply for membership at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/j2cl-external -Julien On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:50 PM Alberto Mancini wrote: > Hello Goktug, > thanks a lot for the opportunity. > Actually seems that the address

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-06-01 Thread Alberto Mancini
Hello Goktug, thanks a lot for the opportunity. Actually seems that the address j2cl-exter...@googlegroups.com does not exist. mailer-dae...@google.com We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to contact (j2cl-external) may not exist, or you may not have permission to post

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-31 Thread 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors
Hi all. Sorry for the delays in getting J2CL work for opensource. Some of the delays were out of our control but this is something we actively working on in the last few months and having progress. In the meantime plenty of active GWT contributors already has access to it for a long time and

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-31 Thread Ivan Markov
Don't you think there could've been 2x or even 3x as much people working on porting GWT2 stuff over to J2CL if J2CL was released in the first place? For one, releasing J2CL could've made me reconsider how much time I invest in my own SDBG pet project. Which - at the current situation is exactly

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread 'Frank Hossfeld' via GWT Contributors
That's not really true. There are a lot of people working on the GWT module, getting them out of GWT and moving them to standalone artifacts. Doing that, they replace JSNI with JsInterop, replace generators, etc. This is all done, to get GWT 2 ready for GWT 3. And if you want to see something

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread Jens
> >1. The backing company backed off but kept the crucial new piece >secret - J2CL. > > These days it is already available to a few people who take their spare time to make it useable by the general public. >1. The past and current stated direction devolves the product, does >

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread Learner Evermore
gle-web-toolkit-contributors@googlegroups.comReply to: google-web-toolkit-contributors@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL Being slow but mature is a pretty good thing sometimes. As you said, "today's rapidly changing IT" is crazy rapidly, you start a project in a t

Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread Ignacio Baca Moreno-Torres
Being slow but mature is a pretty good thing sometimes. As you said, "today's rapidly changing IT" is crazy rapidly, you start a project in a technology that when the project is production ready it might be that technology considered deprecated already. Java and GWT are all about maturity and

[gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread Relja Pcela
I would recommend Vaadin instead (of GWT or any JavaScript). If you like you can use Kotlin or Scala with it as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-05-30 Thread Norbert Sándor
I have been an enthusiastic user of GWT for many years but I don't use it anymore and I recommend for everyone not to use it for new projects. (Additionally I think that Google killed GWT like it did with other interesting and useful projects.) Use Javascript, Kotlin or even Doppio

[gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-03-06 Thread Marko Pesic
I agree 100% with Ivan, every word he said is true. You can also rewrite your UI code to work with Vaadin (8 or 10 soon) and all the rest of your code (business logic, persistence, services) can stay (almost) the same as it is now in your GWT. Vaadin 10 (Flow) will be ready soon, it does not

[gwt-contrib] Re: The elusive J2CL

2018-03-06 Thread Marko Pesic
While waiting for our moderator (probably from USA) to wake up, here is a link with today's news about Vaadin 10: https://vaadin.com/blog/vaadin-10-beta It explains what it is so you can decide if this is something that could be interesting for you. Regards, Marko -- You received this