Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 10/17/2007 8:34:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ann's right; tuxedos were originally a kind of informal wear; they did not become formal wear until the 1920s. Unfortunately, I don't remember enough to be more detailed than that. *

Re: [h-cost] cutting for all

2007-10-17 Thread Cat Devereaux
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0809320061/thecostumersmani I would be interested in reading this book. Picked this up years ago at the Smithsonian, so the "review" will have lots of dust on the memory... It's not something that is read. It is literally lists and lists of sources on

[h-cost] Re: Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Ann Catelli
I could tell you for nineteenth century, but not earlier. (yes.) Check out the dance manual link that someone recently posted on the Library of Congress site--I remember looking there at 17th and 19th century manuals, so perhaps they had some from the 18th as well. Ann in CT --- Suzi Clarke <[E

Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Wednesday 17 October 2007, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: > I didn't thing tuxedos came in for evening wear until about the 1920s. > They look wrong to me for 1890s. Ann's right; tuxedos were originally a kind of informal wear; they did not become formal wear until the 1920s. Unfortunately, I don't

Re: [h-cost] Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Leif og Bjarne Drews
Hi Suzi I got a wonderfull book this summer in Rome with prints from Morreau le Jeunne and Freiberg. It is old prints about the fashion. In manny of the prints, ladies are wearing gloves. Also i can tell that the german reenactor ladies i visited this september used gloves in the evening at the

Re: [h-cost] cutting for all

2007-10-17 Thread Suzanne
It's a book about books [and journals, and patterns] -- aside from his introduction, I imagine it's mainly an annotated bibliography. Useful for directing further research... but I didn't get the impression that it's a cutter's manual. It would be a good purchase for a library; whether Zu

[h-cost] Re: Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Cin
Cheryl, I've fretted about this before with unsatisfactory results. My latest treasure trove to dig in, and this is for a period later than yours, is the LOC archive of dance manuals www.loc.gov. Several of them have photos of famous dance teachers in their most formal evening wear. I'm interes

RE: [h-cost] Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Chiara Francesca
Thank you! Always nice to hear feedback on my booklet. :D I will read the other tonight and get back to you when I get home from work. :) Chiara Francesca -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:22

Re: [h-cost] Where to go to in Copenhagen

2007-10-17 Thread Leif og Bjarne Drews
If you are mostly interrested in the medieval period, you should go to the Nationalmuseet where they have the Greenland find clothes on wiev. Also a trip to the Bymuseet, the (city museum) has a lot of things from medieval Copenhagen. Museum of decorative arts is very nice with old textiles and a

RE: [h-cost] Where to go to in Copenhagen

2007-10-17 Thread Chiara Francesca
Ooo ... well, start here ... http://www.world66.com/europe/denmark/copenhagen/museums But if you go to Nationalmuseet, Danmarks Middelalder og Renæssance, in Copenhagen please take pictures of the gloves that are there for me!! :D If they are not on display ask if you can be allowed to see them f

Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I didn't thing tuxedos came in for evening wear until about the 1920s. They look wrong to me for 1890s. Sylrog On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Miss Manners has covered the evolution of tails and the tuxedo--try one of her earlier etiquette books.? Tuxedos were

[h-cost] English Gable Hood, Holbein image

2007-10-17 Thread Margo Anderson
I'm at work on an English gable hood, as seen in this image: http:// commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Gablehood_front-back_c1535_detail.jpg Unfortunately I don't have a clear enough image to be able to answer this question: Is there a round button at the center of the converging triangles

Re: [h-cost] Where to go to in Copenhagen

2007-10-17 Thread Lena
Hi, I second the suggestion for the National Museum. If you're interested in replica medieval and viking age jewellery, there are Museum Kopi Smykker (http://www.museum-jewelry.dk/default.asp) in Grønnegade, a stone's throw from Strøget/Kongens Nytorv, and Raudi, in Laederstrade 31, parallel to St

Re: [h-cost] cutting for all

2007-10-17 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
Isn't Kevin on this list? Maybe not. I know his name from theatre. I heard him speak at a USITT conference several years ago. He was quite knowledgeable. I would be interested in reading this book. Sylrog On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: Does anyone know anything a

Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Sunshine Buchler
> My students are designing a production of "Dracula" (1897) and are required > to do research and designs for the costumes. There has been a lot of > discussion of vest colors and appropriate coats for various occasions. I > learned > (Esquire Book of Men's Clothing, mostly) that the rule

Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Katy Bishop
I have a page of information on 1890s men's evening attire that may be helpful, it has no photographs (yet) but it has original period illustrations: http://www.vintagevictorian.com/costume_1890_men.html Also our dance group's 1890s costume page has a description of men's evening attire at the bo

RE: [h-cost] Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:01 17/10/2007, you wrote: I will look at my copy of that, you do mean the Eunis Close book in the Batsford series, yes? Chiara Francesca I think so - as I don't have it I don't actually know!! (But I have your nice little book on glove making - very helpful for the making side.) Suz

RE: [h-cost] Where to go to in Copenhagen

2007-10-17 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
On display last year at the Danish National Historical Museum, there were some lovely copes and embroidery, some tapestries, "Eric of Pommerania's" belt (probably actually a woman's), some nice medieval shoes and pattens and some of the Greenland finds. I do not remember seeing the gloves. T

[h-cost] cutting for all

2007-10-17 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Does anyone know anything about this book? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0809320061/thecostumersmani Zuzana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

RE: [h-cost] Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Chiara Francesca
I will look at my copy of that, you do mean the Eunis Close book in the Batsford series, yes? Chiara Francesca -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:08 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost]

[h-cost] Gloves in the 18th century

2007-10-17 Thread Suzi Clarke
When asked by a customer I was unable to answer her question, in spite of having looked at various fashion plates of the late 18th century (1770's). The one book I don't have in the Batsford series of "Gloves/Shawls/Shoes/Bags" is of course gloves. Can anyone tell me if ladies wore gloves wh

[h-cost] Where to go to in Copenhagen

2007-10-17 Thread Hanna Zickermann
Greetings, I am going on a three-day trip to Copenhagen next week. Which museums are the most interesting for costumes and textiles and are there shops that are a must-see? I am especially interested in everything related to the middle ages, but I like all other costumes as well. Thank you s

Re: [h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread annbwass
I think Miss Manners has covered the evolution of tails and the tuxedo--try one of her earlier etiquette books.? Tuxedos were definitely "informal" when first developed, so your characters should probably be wearing tails.? I think the white tie and tails had been codified by then, to include th

[h-cost] Tux, tails and vests

2007-10-17 Thread Cheryldee
My students are designing a production of "Dracula" (1897) and are required to do research and designs for the costumes. There has been a lot of discussion of vest colors and appropriate coats for various occasions. I learned (Esquire Book of Men's Clothing, mostly) that the rule of thumb

[h-cost] Costume curator position

2007-10-17 Thread Robin Netherton
Here's a rare opening: http://chronicle.com/jobs/id.php?id=528831-01&pg=e It requires significant curatorial experience, which makes sense, but good luck in finding someone with an "advanced degree in costume history." I got this off a public list, so feel free to forward to lists for 19th