On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:43:14PM +0100, Hants LUG Chairman wrote:
> I think the recent mailing list behaviour has got out of hand and we need to
> stop and think for a few seconds.
Indeed.
> 1) Most people are happy if a few jobs are posted now and then to the
> list, as long as they are real
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:42:15PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > I'm confused; you don't think he needs to apologise for:
> >
> > http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/lurker/message/20090428.070434.da5a6e2d.en.html
> >
> > ?
> And your point is? He is expressing his opinion, and it is
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 22:42:15 John Cooper wrote:
> And your point is? He is expressing his opinion, and it is a poor
> substitute for actual relevant list content.
Are you sure that you read the sentence in upper case at the bottom of the
page??
Lisi
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I think the recent mailing list behaviour has got out of hand and we need to
stop and think for a few seconds.
1) Most people are happy if a few jobs are posted now and then to the list, as
long as they are real jobs, clearly marked and not silly fishing emails or
other commercial spam.
2) Eve
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:25:10PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
>> Tony Whitmore wrote:
>>> Rik wrote:
The apt response to this is YOU
>>> This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
>>> mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accep
Hi John,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:25:10PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
> > Rik wrote:
> >> The apt response to this is YOU
> >
> > This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> > mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place.
[...]
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:25 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
> > Rik,
> >
> > Rik wrote:
> >> The apt response to this is YOU
> >
> > This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> > mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
> > sinc
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 20:57:57 jt wrote:
> Steve Wesemeyer wrote:
> > James,
> >
> > My Samsung NC10 works fine using Opensuse 11.1 (KDE 3.5) and some minor
> > tweaks. I also have Fedora 10 installed on it which appears to work ok
> > but I haven't really soaktested it.
> >
> > There are also
Tony Whitmore wrote:
> Rik,
>
> Rik wrote:
>> The apt response to this is YOU
>
> This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
> sincerely hope that no-one trying to get an impression of Hampshire LUG
> see
Steve Wesemeyer wrote:
> James,
>
> My Samsung NC10 works fine using Opensuse 11.1 (KDE 3.5) and some minor
> tweaks. I also have Fedora 10 installed on it which appears to work ok but I
> haven't really soaktested it.
>
> There are also a number of sites that show Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 working
James,
My Samsung NC10 works fine using Opensuse 11.1 (KDE 3.5) and some minor
tweaks. I also have Fedora 10 installed on it which appears to work ok but I
haven't really soaktested it.
There are also a number of sites that show Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 working ok.
http://nc10ubuntu.wordpress.com
jt wrote:
> ...I'm more than happy to contribute to the list discussions. if anybody
> would like to enter in a discussion with me regarding the matter of
> getting this machine to recognize 2 data drives under raid 1 and an OS
> drive running SUSE that would be great and a good start.
>
> ...I'm
Lisi wrote:
is jt's contributions that have been queried, is it not? (I'm sure
that someone will tell me where I am wrong in this!)?
...I'm more than happy to contribute to the list discussions. if anybody
would like to enter in a discussion with me regarding the matter of
getting this machine t
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 19:19:12 Jacqui Caren wrote:
> Sean Gibbins wrote:
> > The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse, the
> > hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I see
> > it, one option gains you some respect, the other writes you off as
Sean Gibbins wrote:
> The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse, the
> hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I see
> it, one option gains you some respect, the other writes you off as a bit
> of a loon.
As a lurker of at least 4 LUG lisst I kno
Hi Tony,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:10:03PM +0100, Tony Whitmore wrote:
> Personally though I am much more worried about the effect on the list of
> the swearing by Rik than the job posts by jt!
Yes indeed. I hope we can all have a nice chat about it at one of
the LUG meets though; somehow I don
Rik,
Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU
This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
sincerely hope that no-one trying to get an impression of Hampshire LUG
sees your reaction and assumes the genera
Stephen Rowles wrote:
> I for one don't have a problem with the posts, an exception would be the
> recent issue with the repeated posting of the Database which clearly
> wasn't going to get a response.
They are at least flagged in the subject line, which is broadly what the
guidance on the wiki sa
Andy Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:28:52PM +0100, jt wrote:
>> That said - I refer you to the main page of the Hants lug that reads:
>>
>> "There is no requirement to be in Hampshire to join, in fact about half
>> of our members are from outside Hampshire"
>
> Please show me a post you
Hi jt,
2009/4/28 jt :
> Daniel Spain wrote:
>
>> I just wanted to join to say that, I hope people don't think that the
>> average IT recruiter is anything like this guy, he's one of the few that
>> gives us all a bad name. Most of us are here because of a genuine interest
>> in the Linux community
Daniel Spain wrote:
> I just wanted to join to say that, I hope people don't think that the
> average IT recruiter is anything like this guy, he's one of the few that
> gives us all a bad name. Most of us are here because of a genuine interest
> in the Linux community, and not just to spam job ad'
Hugo Mills wrote:
>
>If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
She's a witch! :)
Chris
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:23:17PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Chris Smith wrote:
> > jt wrote:
> >> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
> >> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
> >> way of thinking
>
> > Just like every other brick and mortar
Andy Smith wrote:
> How many lists are you banned from now? Is it just GLLUG and SCLUG?
I'm still subscribed to both.
I had an email from SCLUG to that read something like, if I want use the
sclug list for commercial purposes you may may like to contribute to the
running costsI replied sayi
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:28:52PM +0100, jt wrote:
> That said - I refer you to the main page of the Hants lug that reads:
>
> "There is no requirement to be in Hampshire to join, in fact about half
> of our members are from outside Hampshire"
Please show me a post you have made to this list whi
On Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 13:20:24 +0100, jt wrote:
> I have not said that! You wont understand but a lot of the time
> employers are looking to recruit people who aren't specifically trawling
> job boards or job lists.
i.e. They're looking for people that are competent and most of those
are alr
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:23:17PM +0100, jt wrote:
> I'm also not a recruitment agent!
http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2009-April/077684.html
"I am a head-hunter/ recruiter"
Please give it a rest.
Andy
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Andy Smith wrote:
> Posting to non-jobs lists based in Peterborough and Lincolnshire for
> a job based in Reading? Please don't try to justify it again, you
> have gone over it again and again on all the other lists. You may
> have had a reasonable point that these types of commutes are
> possibl
Chris Smith wrote:
> jt wrote:
>> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
>> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
>> way of thinking
> Just like every other brick and mortar recruitment agency, you mean?
> How's that different?
Not quite!
jt wrote:
>
> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
> way of thinking
Just like every other brick and mortar recruitment agency, you mean?
How's that different?
> chances are these people (like pe
jt,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:20:24PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > This is not specifically a jobs list. One of those already exists
> > but James has already stated that he won't restrict himself to it
> > because his vacancies are so good that even people who aren't
> > currently l
Andy Smith wrote:
> The performance on GLLUG of even apparently going to the trouble of
> setting up another identity was quite special.
I have already mentioned why this was done! If I had wanted to do
something special I would have created a new company, new website and
posted under a different
jt wrote:
>
> I have not said that! You wont understand but a lot of the time
> employers are looking to recruit people who aren't specifically trawling
> job boards or job lists.
Eh? I certainly don't understand. You seem to be saying that (in your
opinion) employers only want to recruit peopl
Hi Stephen,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:10:44PM +0100, Stephen Rowles wrote:
It was actually me who wrote:
> > Most people were willing to tolerate the Camalyn posts until they
> > became extremely repetitive, posted widely across the country for
> > jobs in specific locations far away, and James
Sean Gibbins wrote:
>
> Sad to say it comes around from time Keith.
Sorry, that should have read 'time to time'.
Sean
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Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:04:34 +0100, hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk said:
>
>
>> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT OFF
>> AND DIE.
>>
>
> What has happened to the Hants LUG list? I've recommended this list to
> quite a few people, but if the
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:04:34 +0100, hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk said:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT OFF
> AND DIE.
What has happened to the Hants LUG list? I've recommended this list to
quite a few people, but if the above is indicative of the tone this list
pr
Hi Rik,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:04:34AM +0100, Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT FUCK OFF
> AND DIE.
Welcome to the LUG. I am going to most overjoyed to meet you at one
of the face to face gatherings!
Cheers,
Andy
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Dear list admins,
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:14:05PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Philip Stubbs wrote:
> > 2009/4/27 jt :
> >> JOB: Senior Security Engineer
> >> SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
> >> LOCATION: London, England, UK
> >
> > Dear Admins,
> >
> > I am sure this guy has been advised of
> The posts are no more than 1-2 per month and are formatted in such a way
> that people can ether hit delete or open as soon as they see it.
> Alternatively perhaps you can just create a filter just as easily?
>
> On some of the other groups I subscribe to I do make non-Job posts...and
> in fact a
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 10:06:17 jt wrote:
> The posts are no more than 1-2 per month
10 since February. I make that between 3 and 4 a month. So almost 1 a week.
> and are formatted in such a way
> that people can ether hit delete or open as soon as they see it.
> Alternatively perhaps you
Lisi wrote:
> This being a very emotive subject, I feel that I had better nail my colours
> to
> the mast and preface what I am about to say by saying that many of my family
> were exterminated in the Holocaust; and that I owe my existence to the fact
> that my father managed to escape.
>
> On
Alan Pope wrote:
> I also note from Greater London LUG that the person seems to be
> signing up under a different name to avoid such filters. That puts
> paid to the idea of filtering. How many filters will you setup before
> you get pissed off with one guy?
After attempting to post the GLUG recen
This being a very emotive subject, I feel that I had better nail my colours to
the mast and preface what I am about to say by saying that many of my family
were exterminated in the Holocaust; and that I owe my existence to the fact
that my father managed to escape.
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 07:5
I love this mailing list as the advice is invaluable.
What also sets it apart, is that it is usually troll and spam free.
>The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse,
>the
>hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I
>see
>it, one option gains you
Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING ...
It's /a/ response Rik, granted, but it's a silly one that just
reinforces Jon's point - you have asked people not to be pathetic and
childish and now you are throwing tantrums.
If you want people to be grown up and not pathetic, then gi
Jon Fautley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:54:12 +0100
> Sean Gibbins wrote:
>
>
>> However, once people see the list as a resource to get to a target
>> audience I can also see it being abused. Apparently the person posting
>> this job has stepped on some toes in that regard and so what is ne
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:42 +0100, Jon Fautley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:20:09 +0100
> Rik wrote:
>
> > Which brings me back to the point of little list Nazi's. Yawn - this
> > is all very very boring and a very poor substitute for actual
> > relevant list content.
>
> Godwin's Law. You f
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