Hi bryan,
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 08:08:48PM +, bryan hunt wrote:
> Linux is a tinkerers OS.
>
> That's fine.
>
> I like it, you like it and they probably like it.
>
> Do normal people like it?
>
> Probably only if they suffer from severe social maladjustment.
My girlfriend is a non-tech
On 22 March 2011 22:20, john lewis wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:48:36 +
> Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
>
>> Reasons for not using are currently:
>> Software won't run. (particularly for CAD)
>
> true you can't get autocad for linux.
>
> In any case you'd need lots of money for a windows version
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 20:08:48 bryan hunt wrote:
> Do normal people like it?
>
> Probably only if they suffer from severe social maladjustment.
My husband - whom I certainly would consider normal - loves it and can't
underestand why anyone prefers Windows, which he dislikes. And yes, he had
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 22:23:09 john lewis wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:56:07 +
>
> john lewis wrote:
> > No idea why this happened, I'd used "scp -r ~/backup ." to copy
> > the files to the new VPS.
>
> the only thing I can think of was that the upload got interrupted and
> so files
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:56:07 +
john lewis wrote:
> No idea why this happened, I'd used "scp -r ~/backup ." to copy
> the files to the new VPS.
the only thing I can think of was that the upload got interrupted and
so files got missed.
However a new upload has got all the files in place
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:48:36 +
Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
> Reasons for not using are currently:
> Software won't run. (particularly for CAD)
true you can't get autocad for linux.
In any case you'd need lots of money for a windows version but I have
been playing with QCad a little bit and it
Hi,
I can now confirm the networking arrangements for these next two meetings at
Southampton University. Chris can connect wired computers to the campus
network by bridging to the wireless network - or that is the plan!
Here is what Chris will try to provide:
- A single 54Mbps link to the Unive
On 22/03/2011 21:38, Keith Edmunds wrote:
Me: What happens if you "telnet external-mail-server-IP 25"?
Them: This is Exchange. Exchange doesn't use Telnet.
Did they have the "Cisco bug/feature"? :-)
Cisco routers and integration with exchange are two of the most common
queries on the postfix-u
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:08:48 +, sentimental.br...@gmail.com said:
> Do normal people like it?
>
> Probably only if they suffer from severe social maladjustment.
As others have observed, that's rubbish.
I've been running an Open Source services company for nine years. We're
doing OK. I don't
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:31:55 +, sentimental.br...@gmail.com said:
> When something goes wrong for us we reach for the packet analyser or
> whatever we need to make wrong, right. 99% of the time we can fix it
> with our generalist skills.
I agree mostly with Vic's reply, but I do think that th
Bryan,
You seem to have an opinion of Linux as a complex entity. It isn't. It is a
collection of disparate, but simple, elements. I stopped tinkering with the OS
to get it to run years ago. I run a linux server and desktop at home, and over
100 boxes as HPC nodes, servers and gateways at work
> Linux is a tinkerers OS.
Rubbish.
Linux is a general-purpose OS. Whilst that does not preclude tinkerers
from getting their fill of whatever makes their day, the vast majority of
Linux users are not tinkerers. They just use it - often without even
knowing they are using Free software.
> Proba
On 22/03/11 20:08, bryan hunt wrote:
Please don't
:-/
I just get tired of these topics coming up again and again
The scenario is somewhat along these lines.
"I want to make money from selling open source software to a business".
"I'll make the profit from doing so".
"I'd appreciate if y
One can use blogs for posting rubbish. This is a mailing list.
So back to the simple description... I think it depends on what you are trying
to sell to whom. If you're looking for a solid web/email/database system, you
are going to have a pretty easy life. If clients want calendering (ie,
exch
> Please don't
> :-/
I just get tired of these topics coming up again and again
The scenario is somewhat along these lines.
"I want to make money from selling open source software to a business".
"I'll make the profit from doing so".
"I'd appreciate if you could write a business proposal
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:36:44 +
Simon Reap wrote:
> On 22/03/2011 16:19, john lewis wrote:
> > I am having to re-create my Startx website as it had been
> > compromised recently.
> >
> > I have copied the website files from my local system to the remote
> > system but am not sure what the owne
On 22 March 2011 18:45, bryan hunt wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:28 +, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:
>> Now I would argue that less skill is required to configure a
>> Linux/open system rather than a cmparable Windows/closed system,
>> but that does not mean than no skill is required.
>
> Ah th
On 22 March 2011 18:45, bryan hunt wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:28 +, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 at 09:59:48AM +, bryan hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > > there is no catch.
> > >
> > > There is a catch.
> > >
> > > For any business critical system running on an open sou
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 15:28 +, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 at 09:59:48AM +, bryan hunt wrote:
> >
> > > there is no catch.
> >
> > There is a catch.
> >
> > For any business critical system running on an open source platform -
> > you will need skilled practitioners t
On 22/03/11 09:25, Edward Beckmann wrote:
Hi
I often meet people with small businesses and most struggle with the
concept of open source software. My simple aim is to make them aware
that there are alternatives to MS and Mac for them to consider.
Without wanting to debate the subtleties (open s
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:36:44PM +, Simon Reap wrote:
> Also, I'm a bit surprised to see your frameset commands outside the
> and - is that usual?
Yes, and are mutually exclusive iirc.
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On 22/03/2011 16:19, john lewis wrote:
I am having to re-create my Startx website as it had been compromised
recently.
I have copied the website files from my local system to the remote
system but am not sure what the ownership settings should be.
It looks as though it is specifically title_f
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:19:03PM +, john lewis wrote:
> The current settings are owner = remote user and group = www-data
There's no specific ownership needed as long as they are readable by the
webserver. All webservers are packaged to run as www-data on Debian iirc.
> the file is located
I am having to re-create my Startx website as it had been compromised
recently.
I have copied the website files from my local system to the remote
system but am not sure what the ownership settings should be.
The current settings are owner = remote user and group = www-data
But I am getting an
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 at 09:59:48AM +, bryan hunt wrote:
>
> > there is no catch.
>
> There is a catch.
>
> For any business critical system running on an open source platform -
> you will need skilled practitioners to run it.
Any system will need skills to use, open or closed. It is a lie t
> Here's how it is.
I disagree with your description of "how it is"...
> I love complex systems.
I don't.
> You love complex systems.
No, I don't. I like simple systems. Complexity in the solution merely
represents complexity in the problem space. It is not an end in itself -
indeed, it is so
> >> there is no catch.
> >
> > There is a catch.
> >
> >
> > For any business critical system running on an open source platform -
> > you will need skilled practitioners to run it.
>
> Enterprise computing, by nature, needs skilled practitioners and
> administrators to keep things afloat. Wheth
On 19/03/2011 03:07, Hugo Mills wrote:
You may have guessed from this sentence that I started that email
assuming that the CST were going to be deeply, horribly wrong. As it
turned out, they were right, but in an uninteresting and uninformative
way. :)
IMHO any day you learn something new i
On Tue, March 22, 2011 09:59, bryan hunt wrote:
>
>> there is no catch.
>
> There is a catch.
>
>
> For any business critical system running on an open source platform -
> you will need skilled practitioners to run it.
Enterprise computing, by nature, needs skilled practitioners and
administrat
> I have the most problems with the latter - in a business context people
> think that not charging for something does not make sense, so therefore
> there must be a catch or the software is useless.
I always emphasise Free over free.
By the time my customers have paid for my time building a sys
> there is no catch.
There is a catch.
For any business critical system running on an open source platform -
you will need skilled practitioners to run it.
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Hi
I often meet people with small businesses and most struggle with the concept
of open source software. My simple aim is to make them aware that there are
alternatives to MS and Mac for them to consider.
Without wanting to debate the subtleties (open source / licences / distros)
that have been c
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