Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-14 Thread Paul Tansom
** Lisi [2015-11-14 00:12]: > On Friday 13 November 2015 22:57:54 Gordon Scott wrote: > > I don't know of a solution for the bulbs. > > Frustratingly, I've been storing some for years ready for when I go to > > the dump. > > Last time I took a whole batch of bulbs of all kinds to the dump a cha

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-14 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 14 November 2015 14:19:25 Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > Isn't it past time to set up a separate discussion list for this topic? I take it that was an offer, Chris. ;-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hamp

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-14 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
Dear All, I have been following this thread with interest as it's a subject which concerns me. I, too, have had cause to contact SCC on several occasions about various aspects of their policy and practice. I'm particularly incensed by the need to drive a car a considerable distance into the city

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-14 Thread john
Hi Lisi I keep bending the ear of the recycling people in Southampton about exactly the same type of problem. Will present your comment when they have a citizen science training day. Waiting to hear when this will be. John Eayrs On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:38:17 + Lisi wrote: > On Friday 13

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Lisi
On Friday 13 November 2015 22:57:54 Gordon Scott wrote: > Hi Lisi, > > Most supermarkets and DIY stores now take small batteries. > There's usually a cylindrical bin that looks a bit like a big battery. Like I said: > And some batteries, but I could get rid of those only three miles away at a > p

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Lisi, Most supermarkets and DIY stores now take small batteries. There's usually a cylindrical bin that looks a bit like a big battery. I don't know of a solution for the bulbs. Frustratingly, I've been storing some for years ready for when I go to the dump. Of course I almost always forge

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Lisi
On Friday 13 November 2015 10:20:07 Gordon Scott wrote: > > I looked into the German waste system > > Like battery recycling bins everywhere...  Years and years ago... > Sigh. I have an electric kettle to get rid of. My days of being able to repair such things are over, and as it stands it is a

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, When you mentioned that you would like to downsize I thought that you might like to build something smaller but low maintenance and you definitely have the inclination. You can compromise on some of the more extreme features with some more conventional materials but the techniques an

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Gordon Scott
On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 09:39 +, Roger Munford wrote: > Gordon, > > I have enjoyed corresponding with you via this list very much. We are > talking about everyday things which just don’t work as well as they > could and it seems like they should get better but for some reason > they don't. Stil

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Gordon Scott
On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 09:39 +, Roger Munford wrote: > > I should delete this because I already have a reputation for talking > rubbish. No, No, No! You _must_ recycle it! :-D -- Gordon Scott. Electronics and software engineering. Basingstoke UK +44-1256-

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-13 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, I have enjoyed corresponding with you via this list very much. We are talking about everyday things which just don’t work as well as they could and it seems like they should get better but for some reason they don't. This is a particular problem for engineering types. I looked into t

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Roger, What I've written is not about any specific project, and I agree with you entirely on just about everything. I know too little about the project(s) in which you have an interest to be able to comment in detail. I do think it's tragic that we're increasingly wasting good land rather

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:52:44 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 16:52 +, Brad Rogers wrote: >> the NIMBY brigade. >Don't get me started :-) Too late, obviously. :-) >I'm not in any way anti renewables, though I think they should perhaps >focus a little more

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, Those 15000 houses could be zero carbon or even carbon positive using existing technology. They could capture rainwater and recycle wastewater so that the running costs would be practically zero. They could all have large cellars to maximise the footprint. But they probably wont, they

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, You may be interested to know that the bee hives went in just after the last panel was installed. The advantage of community ownership is that people are prepared to spend the extra to maintain and develop he environment and the profit stays in the community. Even if the climate chan

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Brad, On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 16:52 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > the NIMBY brigade. Don't get me started :-) I can't now remember who it was, who said "Sure I worry about my back yard ... nobody else is going worry about it!" It's notable that NIMBYs are always other people objecting to things

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Roger, I hadn't meant my comments to apply to any particular instance and I'm pleased that the Lymington one appears sensible. In my area, though, there are a number built on prime agricultural land. Of course the land isn't actually destroyed, so could be returned to agriculture if necessary,

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:45:41 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >Obviously others will have different views. HSE probably has a fair bit to say about it, I'm sure. Also, don't forget the "power of the people"; Urban areas seem to be well organised when it comes to the NIMBY brigade. As

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
There is a clever piece of software which I believe originated in Sweden that can calculate roofspace, elevation and shadow from trees from 3D surveys and hence solar potential. Southampton University have done this survey and conclude that 40% of the city's electricity could be supplied by sola

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Brad, I should of course have said "allow" rather than "put". You don't mention the _real_ reason why people want to put them in green spaces, which is that they get large subsidies for feed-in, rather than having to manage the land that's lost to agriculture or wildlife. I can see cost being

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:04:07 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >Why oh why do they so often put them in green spaces? It's ridiculous. Access, cost and safety, to name but three. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately a

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Whilst I approve of PV in principle, I do wish they'd put them in places that aren't additionally intrusive into the environment. Put them over supermarket and other car parks, giving shade to the cars as well. Factory, supermarket and shopping-centre roofs, bus shelters, railway station roofs, et

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 12 November 2015 14:32:05 Roger Munford wrote: > Thanks for your indulgence It wont happen again. I'm delighted that you have told us. Sorry everybody! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL:

[Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
I apologies for troubling you with the same off topic subject in a month but there was some interest last time and it will all be coming to an end shortly. First there is an opportunity to visit the community owned solar farm at Lymington on Saturday morning. Second there is the opportunity