RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Self
Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes available. What is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for the client? The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in production systems except that

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Medsphere has certainly put money into the development of this technology. And I will understand if they want a return on that investment. Is there any way that we could develop equivalent technology in an opensource fashion? I don't understand the arrangement he described. Kevin --- Jim

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
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Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I don't think you're wrong. M2Web is a kind of M based application server. JBoss and Tomcat are open source options for Java based application servers (and both come installed on OS X out of the box, BTW). I don't know that much about M2Web, but from everything I've heard on this list, it's

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Todd Berman wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Right, and in principle, an M server could be made to speak SOAP if there were interesdt in doing so. An alternative would be to use a more conventional application server and something like VistaLink for data access. This may be preferable, given that M platforms aren't particularly well suited

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Self
Kevin wrote: Medsphere has certainly put money into the development of this technology. And I will understand if they want a return on that investment. I am sure that they will see a tremendous return if their solution is widely adopted whether Open Source or not. Making it Open Source would

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client that provides the same feature-set as CPRS. --Todd

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Self
M2Web provides a MUMPS based framework and tools for developing and running web applications and serving MUMPS data on the web in various formats including HTML, JSON (Javascript Object Notation), and XML. We (UC Davis VMTH) haven't yet used the XML format very much because the JSON format has

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection..

2005-07-21 Thread whitten
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client that provides the same feature-set as CPRS. --Todd Todd,

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection..

2005-07-21 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Self
TCP/IP handling is a total non-issue with M2Web. Most applications find their input in local variables (most generically htInput(name) ) and either simply write their response to their home device or (even simpler) set it in the local variable htReturn. M2web currently uses a CGI interface from

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
No, I've written applications using both the SAX and DOM interfaces of the MXML parser. I actually rather like it. But there are limitations, such as being restricted to 7-bit ASCII and problems with TCP/IP streams. My application have always read and written host files, and I've found that it has

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Self
I wonder, has anyone given serious thought to having a CPRS client connect to the RPC broker via HTTPS (HTTP + SSL)? That would seem to me to be the ideal solution for connecting internet accessible services. I was thinking that it might not be at all difficult to provide the RPC interface via

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-20 Thread Todd Berman
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 14:22 -0700, Jim Self wrote: I wonder, has anyone given serious thought to having a CPRS client connect to the RPC broker via HTTPS (HTTP + SSL)? That would seem to me to be the ideal solution for connecting internet accessible services. That is basically (well, a

RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Self
This sort of approach would undoubtedly simplify many things. Since SSL is *THE* secure protocol for virtually all secure web services, I imagine that it was simply overlooked not rejected. Could you give us more specifics as to what you (medsphere) are doing and is it available as Open