At 09:17 PM 02/03/2006, Greg Sevart wrote:
But I'm not about to feel guilty for buying and driving a vehicle I
like and can afford.
I think that's his point. Either you honestly don't feel guilty, or
you choose not too. The question is - shouldn't one feel guilty
about buying more of anythi
that would be great, guess I need to do some homework on this it is just
because they do not seem to be able to build a decent battery anymore ( outside
of Optima ) that will last.
fp
At 09:04 PM 3/2/2006, Christopher Fisk Poked the stick with:
>On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, FORC5 wrote:
>
>>I'm intereste
The reality is, though, the electric type cars, etc. all require you to
create energy somewhere.. I'm laughing a bit at places like Montana where
you've got a Governor asking to open up strip mining for more "coal based
solutions".
Everyone is so terrified of Nuclear Power, which numerous other pl
Better we work on filtering technology then creating more nuclear waste
that can't be gotten rid of, only stored. Then there's the issue that a
nuke plant is essentially a dirty bomb ripe to be detonated.
Fuel-cell + Battery + Ethanol sound like they could be good tech if
that's what the marke
The easy answer is to get a vehicle with a diesel engine. That way you can
now use biodiesel and BD blends, which work in any diesel car and you are
not paying a four figure premium to use antiquated nickel battery technology
in these overhyped hybrids.
Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the p
And use more fossil fuels to manufacture than a traditional car.
From: Christopher Fisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] google search for "failure"
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:04:44 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, FORC5 wrote:
I'm interest
At 09:02 AM 3/3/2006, warpmedia typed:
Better we work on filtering technology then creating more nuclear
waste that can't be gotten rid of, only stored. Then there's the
issue that a nuke plant is essentially a dirty bomb ripe to be detonated.
Not really & even if it were true do you know how
Oh and http://www.biodieselnow.com/
From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: cars was [H] google search for "failure"
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:16:29 -0500
The easy answer is to get a vehicle with a diesel engine. That wa
The funny thing is you have all these american car companies saying
it's soo hard to get off gas, do a google on Brazil and Ethanol, you
can get a car down there that will switch from deisel or gas to
ethanol with the flip of a switch so you can use what's convenient,
guess who makes those cars - F
As I understand it the real problem with ethanol is that it won't go
though existing pipelines.
And THAT is a monster of a chicken-egg issue.
On 3/3/06, j m g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The funny thing is you have all these american car companies saying
> it's soo hard to get off gas, do a go
also takes more energy to produce then gas
fp
At 07:58 AM 3/3/2006, G.Waleed Kavalec Poked the stick with:
>As I understand it the real problem with ethanol is that it won't go
>though existing pipelines.
>
>And THAT is a monster of a chicken-egg issue.
>
>
>
>On 3/3/06, j m g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corn based ethanol. Soybean based ethanol is efficient.
FORC5 wrote:
also takes more energy to produce then gas
fp
As is soy based biodiesel.
From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:13:30 -0500
Corn based ethanol. Soybean based ethanol is efficient.
FORC5 wrote:
also takes more energy to
At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy.
Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated
the startup time degradations with Norton. Much improved after I
switched to Kaspersky.
--
JW
The latest Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition client (10.0.2.2020) takes
about 30MB of memory footprint these days. It does however do a much better
job than the retail home user version (norton), however it will get more
false positives.
From: Jin-Wei Tioh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Th
At 10:54 3/3/2006, Jin-Wei Tioh, wrote:
>At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
>>Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy.
>
>Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated
>the startup time degradations with Norton. Much improved after I
>switched to
I can confirm.
SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the crap consumer grade stuff
that is Norton branded.
10.0.2 is taking 33MB of memory on thix box (I have 2GB), which I don't
consider very bad.
I still argue it is among (if not the) best AV scanner available--it just
isn't availa
At 10:16 AM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the political spectrum. It
pleases hippies to no end because it is a true "green" fuel, burns
cleaner than gas and has nearly ZERO emissions that contribute to
the greenhouse effect. Biodiesel also can be a 100% amer
It has eliminated the need for any real-time malware scanner product.
From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "The Hardware List"
Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:15:30 -0600
I can confirm.
SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the
Exceptyou do not need soybeans to make biodiesel! Pretty much any
vegetable oil can be used at this point although the refining has been
optimized (thus far) for soy. Imagine all the subs paid to farmers to NOT
GROW A THING when these farmers could now be biodiesel sources.
From: "Thane
At 01:30 PM 03/03/2006, W. D. wrote:
At 10:54 3/3/2006, Jin-Wei Tioh, wrote:
>At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
>>Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy.
>
>Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated
>the startup time degradations with Nort
We have to use more nuclear power. I applaud efforts to add wind, thermal,
and solar generation, but I just don't see those every becoming large scale
enough to make an appreciable dent. (incidentally, did you see that KCP&L is
building a wind generation station out west?)
Nuclear power, prope
At 02:15 PM 03/03/2006, Greg Sevart wrote:
I still argue it is among (if not the) best AV scanner available--it
just isn't available to the average consumer. Most people (for good
reason) hate the Norton consumer stuff, and assume that the
corporate stuff is related...but nothing could be furth
At 02:25 PM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
Exceptyou do not need soybeans to make biodiesel! Pretty much
any vegetable oil can be used at this point although the refining
has been optimized (thus far) for soy. Imagine all the subs paid to
farmers to NOT GROW A THING when these farmers coul
In one of the articles you linked earlier - the author mentions that even if
biodiesel or some other green fuel achieves a perfect balance of widespread
use with low resources used to cultivate, in the end it means nothing unless
the population of the earth slows or is capped altogether. His sug
So?
I'm sure 150 years ago if someone had done the math all the energy
expended to create steam would have paralyzed people with the fear
that steam was impractical. None of this stuff happens in a bubble,
we've been stuck with oil/gas and no mass transport for too long.
On 3/3/06, Thane Sherring
or can it be launched from the command line to do an on-demand scan?
T
Yes, or from a batch file, as can all Norten anti virus products and NU
appellants
Where did you hear that because its definitely not the case
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From: "Greg Sevart"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 3/3/06 10:16:07 AM
To: "The Hardware List"
Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus
I can confirm.
SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the crap consumer grade stuff
th
We need a (really hefty) Ansari X-Prize for the one who invents "Mr. Fusion".
On 3/3/06, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have to use more nuclear power. I applaud efforts to add wind, thermal,
> and solar generation, but I just don't see those every becoming large scale
> enough to m
At 03:35 PM 03/03/2006, j m g wrote:
So?
I'm sure 150 years ago if someone had done the math all the energy
expended to create steam would have paralyzed people with the fear
that steam was impractical. None of this stuff happens in a bubble,
we've been stuck with oil/gas and no mass transport f
At 03:18 PM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
In one of the articles you linked earlier - the author mentions that
even if biodiesel or some other green fuel achieves a perfect
balance of widespread use with low resources used to cultivate, in
the end it means nothing unless the population of the
At 03:36 PM 03/03/2006, Winterlight wrote:
or can it be launched from the command line to do an on-demand scan?
T
Yes, or from a batch file, as can all Norten anti virus products and
NU appellants
Thanks.
T
An Oxford University physicist sees the future of nanotechnology in the workings of one of Nature's tiniest motors
An
Oxford University physicist sees the future of nanotechnology in the
workings of one of Nature's tiniest motors, that which allows some
bacteria to swim by rotating slender fil
PS: and if anyone thinks I was joking
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4741On 3/3/06, G.Waleed Kavalec <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We need a (really hefty) Ansari X-Prize for the one who invents "Mr. Fusion".
On 3/3/06, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> We have to use more
Have you used it? It has caught malware on my machines that many of the
other popular anti-spyware tools missed...
That test link someone provided also shows it does a nice job at
anti-malware.
So, care to qualify your statement?
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From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PRO
Chris,
> Everyone is so terrified of Nuclear Power, which numerous other places
> in the world use to great success, that they are willing to do almost
> anything else with other permanent damage because they find it much
> easier to "sell".
Without the major federal subsidies (meaning your tax
On 3 Mar 2006 at 8:45, FORC5 wrote:
> also takes more energy to produce then gas
Actually not.
"The US Department of Agriculture reports a net energy balance for ethanol
production of 1.67. In other words, for every one unit of energy used to
produce ethanol and its
accompanying co-products,
Hayes,
> Exceptyou do not need soybeans to make biodiesel! Pretty much any
> vegetable oil can be used at this point
Or grapeseed oil, canola oil, peanut oil, and many others.
Vince
Mmmm Chicken wings!
Well I see malware daily as part of my job and I see the results of AV
vendors against those pieces of malware and Symantec is terrible from
what I have seen. And what I have seen is definitely things in the wild
regardless if its on the wild list or not.
And like I said earlier scanning a system
Save the grease!
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Subject: Cooking was Re: cars was [H] google search
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:26:49 -0500
Mmmm Chicken wings!
Are you specifically testing SAVCE, not Norton AV, but the latest SAVCE
client v10.0.2?
From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "The Hardware List"
Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:59:55 -0800
Well I see malware daily as part of my job and
That was my question as well. As we know, NAV <> SAVCE.
Greg
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To:
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus
Are you specifically testing SAVCE, not Norton AV, but the latest SAVCE
client v10.0.2?
Yes it's the corporate edition
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 4:28 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus
Are you specifically testing SAVCE, not Norton AV, but the latest SA
v10.0.2? (there is a significant difference in 10 vs the past versions)
From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "The Hardware List"
Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:39:00 -0800
Yes it's the corporate edition
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From:
Mmmm Auto Fuel! Does this mean I can drive my car *and* cook supper at
the same time?
Hayes Elkins wrote:
Save the grease!
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18
At 12:58 AM 3/4/2006, Stan Zaske typed:
Mmmm Auto Fuel! Does this mean I can drive my car *and* cook supper
at the same time?
Would that be hood up for fried & down for baked ? One might want to
be toasted before they start flipping burgers at 60mph tho. ;-)
--+--
Wayne
Definitely hood down for baked at 60 MPH, get toasted for sure and let
the passengers flip the burgers. I mean, who's going to talk on the cell
if not the driver.
Wayne Johnson wrote:
At 12:58 AM 3/4/2006, Stan Zaske typed:
Mmmm Auto Fuel! Does this mean I can drive my car *and* cook supper
We use the most up to date av products
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Sent: 3/3/06 9:04:12 PM
To: "hardware@hardwaregroup.com"
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v10.0.2? (there is a significant difference in 10 vs the past versions)
>From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PROT
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