[H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk. DHSinclair wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan At 21:45 03/02/2008 +, you wrote: I have lots of clients who have group policies that disallow usb removable media for (most clients). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this? Best, Duncan At 16:47 03/02/2008 -0500, Rick wrote: Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs.

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair wrote: Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Ben, Plan to treat the new FDs the same way as the old one. I am not worried about any warranty implications.regarding what might be pre-recorded. :) I suspect I am seeking info about this U3 business. Best, Duncan At 17:23 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: If there's stuff on the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't know for sure as I never removed any of mine.) Rick Glazier From: Ben Ruset If there's

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Ben! I was not aware of this, other than just shutting down USB (on current HDW). I thought that USB was now a default protocol. Hmm.? Best, Duncan At 17:44 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Rick, I'll read up on this U3 business. Still have a few days. :) Best, Duncan At 17:51 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive in whatever computer they get plugged into. I am off to

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Winterlight
At 03:16 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote: Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive I think it is very unlikely

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records,

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
See Brians message. Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) It has the link and confirms things I said eariler. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, You

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
Others are saying -- maybe you don't have a U3 drive. They are marked with the LOGO if they are. Only you can see the drive and can tell us what it is... Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:10

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Winterlight, Thanks for that info. I was hoping that none of the new devices would be harnessed with U3, but it has been some time since I've spent money on new tech (mostly old replacement stuff). Am happy to read that I might beat this latest trend. I will wait and see. At worst, I'll

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
Well, security is only as good as the policies that the organization decides on, the technology used, and the skill of the people implementing them. Brian Weeden wrote: Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Thanks. I do comprehend the gov't connection. It does make much sense. Fortunately, I do not do any gov't work anymore. But, I am sensitive to those that do. Gov't security is only limited to my past personal records/business. Yes; the stuff of all future phishing attacks. That

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Rick, Got it! Saved it. Agree with it! Best, Duncan At 19:42 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: See Brians message. Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) It has the link and confirms things I said eariler. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Where is the straight ahead sw routine to kill/remove the U3 business?? From your link all I get is a webpage that try's to lame me about what I plan to do (kill any U3 on the flash drive). One of those, Are you really sure you want to do this? Well, YES. I am sure. Why else did I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, I am very thick. I did finally navigate to: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx Oddly, none of the choices given fit my circumstances. Nothing to download for local use. So, I'll just format my new FDs and get on with life. I will look at anything added to the FDs, and, maybe save

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
They definitely don't make it easy do they. You have to navigate through 4 different pages each time saying yes, I want to remove this crap from my USB drive. On the link you just sent, click No Thanks, Continue will take you to another page where you can click on the button to download the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Thank you. CHA-CHING! You have this down. I can presume that you have been here more than a few times before. Found it, and will use it if necessary. Link filed. Yes, with this many hoops I know I do not need any of it. Perhaps I asked an offhand question, but, I received

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Hayes Elkins
It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Reeves
Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few clients who go the extra length and deploy spector cne everywhere. :) If your in the intellectual property business you have to. If one of their mastercam drawings left their building, there would be a rash of

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Hayes, I do understand this view. I was around when we blew these concerns off the table. Funny how technology has come back to bite us in the butt. OUCH! LOL! Best, Duncan At 21:37 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Chris, Been there, and done that too! Way many years ago! Odd. It still goes on. Gosh! We are having just way too much fun. With much better sw. But, JMHO. Best, Duncan At 02:46 03/03/2008 +, you wrote: Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few

Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-02 Thread j maccraw
I hear ya Duncan, PCPC would be fine but as you say those models not being made anymore! :( Right now I've found a Rosewill (ATNG OEM'd) that I'd buy as last resort before no-name, it has the right specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182010 Still looking for other