Re: [H] I am whole..

2008-12-18 Thread maccrawj
LOL, glad to hear it is a happy experience Duncan! ProbeII is likely reporting wrong named sensors since 40C sounds like CPU temp (socket most likely, not diode, an important distinction) and 29C sounds like case temp which is the ambient sensor on the mobo. Since my C2D quad is nominal @

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Rick Glazier
Things are getting better. It is becoming a mature OS. Rick Glazier From: FORC5 curious how that is working for ya ? I have that but am afraid to mess with it due to the stories I read about drivers and such. At 08:21 PM 12/17/2008, Bryan Seitz Poked

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
I agree. Although Vista is bloated compared to XP, it has become much more mature and rock stable. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Rick Glazier rickglaz...@gmail.com wrote: Things are getting better. It is becoming a mature OS. Rick Glazier From:

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
One would hope by the second service pack they actually get it working right :) I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Rick Glazier

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Yeah agreed Brian. XP64 is ROCK solid ( based on Win2003 kernel ) and I found good drivers for everything I own. Current setup: Areca 2 port PCI-E Raid card for RAID1 OS disk(s) 6G of Triple Channel OCZ PC1333 Ramz 620W 3 12V rails Corsair PSU Asus P6T Deluxe X58 motherboard * Onboard sound is

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty sure these are 16bit, was a effort to get them to run in xp. fp At 09:22 AM 12/18/2008, Bryan Seitz Poked the stick with: I tried Vista twice and not only did it feel

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Unknown if really old (esp 16 bit) apps work properly. I use plenty of 32 bit apps though and they work flawlessly. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:57:00AM -0700, FORC5 wrote: how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread JRS
Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer.  That's one of my main complaints of Vista.   I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Jason Carson
Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer.  That's one of my main complaints of Vista.   I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian Well the only

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip out all the unnecessary crap to streamline the OS. I use XP64 and a custom Lite version of XP for non 64-bit boxes. XPLite only takes about 300 megs for the OS and is way faster without the bloatware.

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread JRS
Yep.  I use the Freeware nLite to strip stuff out of my Windows installs too when I do the SP slipstreams.  :)  Works like a charm.    -- JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net Please remove **X** to reply... I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Winterlight
At 08:57 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty sure these are 16bit, was a effort to get them to run in xp. fp nothing in 16bit runs in vista64, I don't know about XP64... I read that

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Yeah nLite/vLite are AWESOME. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:01:36AM -0800, JRS wrote: Yep.? I use the?Freeware?nLite to strip?stuff out of my Windows installs too when I do the SP slipstreams.? :)? Works like a charm.? ? -- JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net Please remove **X** to reply...

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
Using vlite is how I discovered the several hundred MB of unnecessary tablet PC stuff that is part of every Vista install, including desktops. Had a weird problem with the one time I did a vlite install. Somehow, it corrupted the real administrator account. I was logged in as administrator and

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
I use FF in my server with Vista, do not use it for much though except when the family is on the main box. there are a few annoyances for sure. fp At 10:23 AM 12/18/2008, JRS Poked the stick with: Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer. That's one of my main complaints

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
XP Lite never heard of it fp At 10:50 AM 12/18/2008, Robert Martin Jr. Poked the stick with: I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip out all the unnecessary crap to streamline the OS. I use XP64 and a custom Lite version of XP for non

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
He means using the nLite tool to customize a version of XP that you then turn into an install CD/DVD: http://www.nliteos.com/ Pretty cool. Allows you to include/exclude a lot of windows components, change which drivers are included as well as change a lot of default settings. You can really

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
thanks, been using that for awhile just never heard the OS called xplite fp At 01:56 PM 12/18/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: He means using the nLite tool to customize a version of XP that you then turn into an install CD/DVD: http://www.nliteos.com/ Pretty cool. Allows you to

Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Davidson
I'm a bit of a fan of MediaPortal (http://www.team-mediaportal.com). Free and Open Source. They are heading for a 1.0.0 release very soon, my money is on it being released within the week as a Christmas present to the community. It does have more of a focus on digital TV these days, especially

[H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread DHSinclair
My new system is running very well. Thank you. Earlier today I went in search of an update video driver for my R4350 card. XP did not like the driver off the CD because it was not WHQL-signed! OK. I get this. :) ATI shunted me off to some memo whose dl link got me a 137MB file!

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
Usually on ATI's site they have one download link for the entire package and a separate one for just the driver (at least for the Radeon drivers). On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:04 PM, DHSinclair dsinc...@bellsouth.net wrote: My new system is running very well. Thank you. Earlier today I went in

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Davidson
Drivers only: 13.3MB driver + control Center: 34.7MB http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 18 December 2008 22:04 To: Hardware

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Winterlight
At 09:50 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip out all the unnecessary crap to streamline the OS. I use XP64 and a custom Lite version of XP for non 64-bit boxes. XPLite only takes about 300 megs for the OS and is way

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, That is what I expected also. I was able to dl a driver only for my R4670 (building tonight!). For some odd reason, the only driver for the R4350 is this 137MB file! Hopefully, this file just expands so I can search this hotfix solution and find just the driver. Very odd, but not

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Davidson
The release notes for 8.12 I linked to has the R4350 listed as one of the (many) cards it can handle. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/Catalyst_812_re lease_notes.pdf :) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks, Neil. I can not open the link you sent. 403 error. Duncan At 23:20 12/18/2008 +, you wrote: The release notes for 8.12 I linked to has the R4350 listed as one of the (many) cards it can handle. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/Catalyst_812_re

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Joe User
Hello Jason, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:47:56 AM, you wrote: Well the only reason I can think of to recommend Vista is if your a gamer and want DirectX 10. All the games I currently play are DirectX 9.0c so I have no reason to switch from XP. Are games faster on Vista with DX10? --

Re: [H] ATI video drivers?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Davidson
Just check out the release notes, link is right under the main page header, that's got a list of all the cards and motherboards that driver package support. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Farcry 2 is the only one so far that runs better in DX10 than DX9. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5Myw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== Joe User wrote: Hello Jason, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:47:56 AM, you wrote: Well the only reason I can think of to recommend Vista is if

Re: [H] Memory problems? (Update)

2008-12-18 Thread nobozoz
OK. The M$ extended memory test ran overnight (~16 hrs, 22 cycles completed) and no errors. Ran Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test for 6 extended cycles (~3 hrs) - no problems. Opened the case and looked for swollen capacitors - found none. Ambient temp on the kitchen table indicates about 21C

[H] NVidia GeForce GTX 295 Preview.

2008-12-18 Thread Bobby Heid
I'm drooling over this! http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/1 Bobby

[H] NVIDIA's Ion Platform

2008-12-18 Thread Stan Zaske
All I can say is WOW! This is the HTPC platform to beat them all. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3478p=2