Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-14 Thread Steve Tomporowski
he games you play take proper advantage of them. > > Regards > Jason > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Steve Tomporowski > > Sent: 13 July 2008 11:45 > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-14 Thread Jason.Tozer
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve > Tomporowski > Sent: 13 July 2008 11:45 > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > Interesting, sigh. Seems to be the typical arguments for ATI: It's > faster when it decides to wo

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-13 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:45 AM 13/07/2008, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Interesting, sigh. Seems to be the typical arguments for ATI: It's faster when it decides to work. I've been dealing with ATI for about two years now with no driver problems. Very happy with them (and I was a big anti-ATI guy just a few year

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Interesting, sigh. Seems to be the typical arguments for ATI: It's faster when it decides to work. Once I bought an ATI TV card because it was cheap. The software caused all sorts of problems, did not work like anybody would want it to, and, to top it off, 99% of all 3rd party TV software did n

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread maccrawj
I know I am over posting but IT'S NOT JUST THE HD4XXX BUT ALSO THE HD2XXX & HD3XXX THAT HAVE THIS *BIOS* ISSUE. Brian Weeden wrote: I have heard that ATI's drivers are still spotty. There actually is as problem with the HD 4870/4850 where the driver won't properly spin up the fan and the card

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread maccrawj
As it is supposed to do, it's a design flaw fixed on BBA models but few non-BBA's with notable exception to the Asus & VisionTek HD3870X2's with quad-DVI ports. Biggest danger of the fan bug is that the fan is only ramped out AFTER you boot an OS & initiate software control leaving a card like

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread maccrawj
Well true as the ATI issues are there's 2 reasons to use them over Nvidia: 1. HD3870X2 or newer beats all but the most expensive Nvidia cards maybe all with new HD4xxx series. 2. CrossfireX works on Intel & Nvidia chipsets, SLI only works on Nvidia because they make it so. Reasons not to use

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Sevart
t; Subject: Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > Which particular P/N boards are the G84/G86 used in? I do have a > 8800GT and an 8800GTS here, but no problems so far. >

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
t; >His review: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341 > > > > > > > > > > > >And another roundup that reaches the same conclusions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Tomporowski
> > > > > >And another roundup that reaches the same conclusions: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/11/summer-2008-graphics-performance-roundup/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Brian > &g

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Sevart
exceed some pre-defined value. Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:00 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > A lot o

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread DHSinclair
reg > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:04 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > > >

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
rian Weeden > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:04 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > > > >From what I can tell the crashing is all about the fan issue I > > mentioned > > which is causing the overheating an

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Greg Sevart
issue. It just baffles me that they'd implement fan control in SOFTWARE. Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:04 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject:

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
> > > > > > > > > >Brian > > > > > > > >On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Hayes Elkins < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> And add to mix the 8800 Ultra, which

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Tomporowski
t;> And add to mix the 8800 Ultra, which still has higher theoretical specs > > >> in > > >> certain areas (it is still the fastest card period for Flight Simulator X > > >> and few other older games). > > >> > > >> All in all, the GTX2

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
ul 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Hayes Elkins < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> And add to mix the 8800 Ultra, which still has higher theoretical > specs in > > >> certain areas (it is still the fastest card period for

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Tomporowski
t;> certain areas (it is still the fastest card period for Flight Simulator X > >> and few other older games). > >> > >> All in all, the GTX280's have the most upside. > >> > >> Frankly for the price, the Radeon 4870 mops the floor with everybody.

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread FORC5
verybody. Is >> 5fps worth $300 more in Crysis? >> >> > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:54:38 -0400 >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> > Subject: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? >> > >> > Been searching the web on

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
X > and few other older games). > > All in all, the GTX280's have the most upside. > > Frankly for the price, the Radeon 4870 mops the floor with everybody. Is > 5fps worth $300 more in Crysis? > > > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:54:38 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PR

Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
ybody. Is 5fps worth $300 more in Crysis? > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:54:38 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card??? > > Been searching the web on this, but it's beginning to get rather > confusing...which Nvi

[H] Fastest Nvidia Card???

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Been searching the web on this, but it's beginning to get rather confusing...which Nvidia chipset/card is the fastest...for gaming? You've got the 9800GX2 versions and the GTX 280 which run about the same price. The hardware on the GTX series seems to have more of everything, yet, the GX2 seems to