From: FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Standard of living - was - cars was [H] google search
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Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:30:58 -0700
no proof, a volcanic eruption can do more damage in a day then cars in 1000
Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> But you're right. I didn't answer the question. I use a back pack and two
> hand held canvas bags. I hardly ever fill them all.
P.S. The first thing to go should be the bag on demand. It should be
outlawed. Vender will be more than willing to sell you a reusa
FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> he pushes the cart home
Another gem.
I wouldn't need to attack you. You fall down all by yourself. :)
But you're right. I didn't answer the question. I use a back pack and two
hand held canvas bags. I hardly ever fill them all.
Wishing the best for you a
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>Thx Gr
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> Thx Greg.
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&g
: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: Standard of living - was - cars was [H] google search
for"failure"
Thx Greg.
Back from my daily 2 mile (1 each way) walk to the food store. And yes, I
drive when the weather is inclement.
A win win win. It's
FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no proof, a volcanic eruption can do more damage in a day then cars in 1000
> years, besides, the earth is pretty good at using it's left hand.
> need to get off save the planet, the planet is just fine and will always be
> just fine, until the next mass extin
Thx Greg.
Back from my daily 2 mile (1 each way) walk to the food store. And yes, I
drive when the weather is inclement.
A win win win. It's good for me, I meet and talk to my neighbors, and
it's good for the planet.
That's all I'm trying to say ppl. If you win the rat race, you still a
rat.
no proof, a volcanic eruption can do more damage in a day then cars in 1000
years, besides, the earth is pretty good at using it's left hand.
need to get off save the planet, the planet is just fine and will always be
just fine, until the next mass extinction.
the earth is not overpopulated, goog
Bryan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You are all still the same argumentative personal attacking people as
when
I left. Attack the arguments, not the people.
Thx for the sage words.
I was thinking I was doing my best to be respectful and personal with my
fellow debaters. If i could have do
Bryan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are all still the same argumentative personal attacking people as when
> I left. Attack the arguments, not the people.
Thx for the sage words.
I was thinking I was doing my best to be respectful and personal with my
fellow debaters. If i could have
You are all still the same argumentative personal attacking people as when
I left. Attack the arguments, not the people.
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 09:39:37AM -0700, Al wrote:
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> "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Are you saying I should spend tens of thousands to buy an inferior ve
Ya'know, I would like to respond to this. :)
FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so maybe we should wipe our ass with our left hand.
I not sure how to interpret this. Is it a slam in Islam? Because they
use one hand for eating and one for wiping.
Is it a political statement? Like I'm a commi
"Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Are you saying I should spend tens of thousands to buy an inferior vehicle
> that I won't like?
No, of course not. More later.
> That's asinine. I may have "pie in the sky" requirements
> before alternative energy cars are appealing to me, yes, b
FROM:
"But I'm not about to feel guilty for buying and driving a vehicle I like
and
can afford."
Paraphrase:
Of the things to consider, the environment is not a factor. I have the
bucks and I want it. After all, it's all about me.
"Until then (the pie in the shy perfect electric car), I'm go
FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so maybe we should wipe our ass with our left hand.
>
> get a life, things evolve.
Haha, thx. You have a great day too. :)
Best,
Al
big v8's keep the cost of fuel down and do not pollute any more then anything
else, some may even be better. Basically new cars just do not put that much out
the pipe with cats. do not believe me run with the garage door closed and see.
At 07:37 AM 3/4/2006, Al Poked the stick with:
>P.S.
>
>Le
so maybe we should wipe our ass with our left hand.
get a life, things evolve.
At 07:18 AM 3/4/2006, Al Poked the stick with:
>Blind greed capitalism has the Western Culture (double for Americans)
>hoodwinked into thinking bigger, faster, more, and the some more after
>that is the way to a happy
P.S.
Let me say, if one wants to drive a big fat V8, I believe in freedom.
Please drive one.
But that driver should pay for the extra pollution.
It's the pricing system that does not reflect the true cost of driving
that big V8.
Thx for your time.
Al
Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Hey ppl,
Lots of good replies from the group;
FROM:
"But I'm not about to feel guilty for buying and driving a vehicle I like and
can afford."
Paraphrase:
Of the things to consider, the environment is not a factor. I have the
bucks and I want it. After all, it's all about me.
"Until then
Hayes,
> Exceptyou do not need soybeans to make biodiesel! Pretty much any
> vegetable oil can be used at this point
Or grapeseed oil, canola oil, peanut oil, and many others.
Vince
At 03:18 PM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
In one of the articles you linked earlier - the author mentions that
even if biodiesel or some other green fuel achieves a perfect
balance of widespread use with low resources used to cultivate, in
the end it means nothing unless the population of the
At 03:35 PM 03/03/2006, j m g wrote:
So?
I'm sure 150 years ago if someone had done the math all the energy
expended to create steam would have paralyzed people with the fear
that steam was impractical. None of this stuff happens in a bubble,
we've been stuck with oil/gas and no mass transport f
So?
I'm sure 150 years ago if someone had done the math all the energy
expended to create steam would have paralyzed people with the fear
that steam was impractical. None of this stuff happens in a bubble,
we've been stuck with oil/gas and no mass transport for too long.
On 3/3/06, Thane Sherring
suggestions
of intelligent contraception are spot on - however the biggest roadblock for
this is the stupidity that is religion.
From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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At 02:25 PM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
Exceptyou do not need soybeans to make biodiesel! Pretty much
any vegetable oil can be used at this point although the refining
has been optimized (thus far) for soy. Imagine all the subs paid to
farmers to NOT GROW A THING when these farmers coul
Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:26:51 -0400
At 10:16 AM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the poli
At 10:16 AM 03/03/2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:
Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the political spectrum. It
pleases hippies to no end because it is a true "green" fuel, burns
cleaner than gas and has nearly ZERO emissions that contribute to
the greenhouse effect. Biodiesel also can be a 100% amer
Oh and http://www.biodieselnow.com/
From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: cars was [H] google search for "failure"
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:16:29 -0500
The easy answer is to get a vehicle
The easy answer is to get a vehicle with a diesel engine. That way you can
now use biodiesel and BD blends, which work in any diesel car and you are
not paying a four figure premium to use antiquated nickel battery technology
in these overhyped hybrids.
Biodiesel appeals to both sides of the p
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